Re: Draft ballot for Proceedural Vote: Suspension of the changes of the Project's membership procedures.

2008-10-31 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Fri, Oct 31 2008, Jurij Smakov wrote: > I find it mildly entertaining that this vote did not take place > because apparently it takes "a couple of days, [...] and sometimes > longer" [0] to set up an "immediate" vote. I'm sure there were > very good reasons [1] to not rush things in this pa

Re: Draft ballot for Proceedural Vote: Suspension of the changes of the Project's membership procedures.

2008-10-31 Thread Jurij Smakov
On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 09:42:30AM +, Neil McGovern wrote: > On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 07:28:43PM +, Neil McGovern wrote: > > As 2K developers have now seconded this GR, and the GR itself calls for > > a suspension of a Delegate's decision, an immediate procedural vote is > > called for if th

Re: Call for seconds: DFSG violations in Lenny

2008-10-31 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Thu, Oct 30 2008, Robert Millan wrote: > Option 1 (reaffirm the Social Contract) > ~~~ > >1. We affirm that our Priorities are our users and the free software > community (Social Contract #4); > >2. We acknowledge that we promised to deliver a

Re: Call for seconds - DC concept (was: Possible amendment for Debian Contributors concept)

2008-10-31 Thread Nico Golde
Hi, * Peter Palfrader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008-10-29 21:06]: > On Tue, 28 Oct 2008, Peter Palfrader wrote: > > > I really dislike the negative tone of the original proposed resolution, > > so I am thinking of proposing this as an alternative option. > > I hereby propose this alternate option/ame

Re: Another one?

2008-10-31 Thread Margarita Manterola
On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 8:09 AM, Lucas Nussbaum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Actually, the more I think about it, the more I think that your > formulation for the now-only option in this GR is too complex. > It mixes many different questions: > - do you want to thank Joerg Jaspert for raising this

Re: Call for seconds - DC concept (was: Possible amendment for Debian Contributors concept)

2008-10-31 Thread Alexander Reichle-Schmehl
* Peter Palfrader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [081029 21:01]: > I hereby propose this alternate option/amendment and am asking for seconds. > > | The Debian Project recognizes that many contributors to the project are > not > | working withing established frameworks of Debian and thus are not > prov

Re: Call for seconds - DC concept (was: Possible amendment for Debian Contributors concept)

2008-10-31 Thread Philipp Kern
On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 09:01:51PM +0100, Peter Palfrader wrote: > | The Debian Project recognizes that many contributors to the project are > not > | working withing established frameworks of Debian and thus are not > provided by > | the project with as much help as might be possible, usef

Re: Another one?

2008-10-31 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 31/10/08 at 10:13 +0100, Peter Palfrader wrote: > On Fri, 31 Oct 2008, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > > > > So, we right now have an option that effectively stops the proposal as > > > it is at present. > > > > > > I wonder if we should haven an option on the ballot that asks the DAM to > > > basical

Re: Call for seconds - DC concept (was: Possible amendment for Debian Contributors concept)

2008-10-31 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Peter Palfrader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (29/10/2008): > I hereby propose this alternate option/amendment and am asking for seconds. > > | The Debian Project recognizes that many contributors to the project are > not > | working withing established frameworks of Debian and thus are not > provided

Re: Draft ballot for Proceedural Vote: Suspension of the changes of the Project's membership procedures.

2008-10-31 Thread Neil McGovern
On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 07:28:43PM +, Neil McGovern wrote: > As 2K developers have now seconded this GR, and the GR itself calls for > a suspension of a Delegate's decision, an immediate procedural vote is > called for if the decision is to stand while the GR process is followed, > as per 4.2.2

Re: Another one?

2008-10-31 Thread Ana Guerrero
On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 10:13:24AM +0100, Peter Palfrader wrote: > On Fri, 31 Oct 2008, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > > > > So, we right now have an option that effectively stops the proposal as > > > it is at present. > > > > > > I wonder if we should haven an option on the ballot that asks the DAM to

Re: Another one?

2008-10-31 Thread Giacomo A. Catenazzi
Lucas Nussbaum wrote: Also, I don't think we that are there yet: maybe objections against Joerg's decision^Hproposal were raised but not addressed (not only on the process that Joerg followed, but also on the content of his proposal). Also, we have alternative proposals (Lars' and Raphael's). Co

Re: Another one?

2008-10-31 Thread Peter Palfrader
On Fri, 31 Oct 2008, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > > So, we right now have an option that effectively stops the proposal as > > it is at present. > > > > I wonder if we should haven an option on the ballot that asks the DAM to > > basically go forward with their idea, explicitly authorizing them to > >

Re: Another one?

2008-10-31 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 31/10/08 at 09:46 +0100, Peter Palfrader wrote: > On Wed, 29 Oct 2008, Peter Palfrader wrote: > > > I hereby propose this alternate option/amendment and am asking for seconds. > > > > | The Debian Project recognizes that many contributors to the project are > > not > > | working withing e

Another one?

2008-10-31 Thread Peter Palfrader
On Wed, 29 Oct 2008, Peter Palfrader wrote: > I hereby propose this alternate option/amendment and am asking for seconds. > > | The Debian Project recognizes that many contributors to the project are > not > | working withing established frameworks of Debian and thus are not > provided by >