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Wouter Verhelst wou...@debian.org writes:
On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 07:33:06AM +1100, Ben Finney wrote:
Wouter Verhelst wou...@debian.org writes:
I will try to be a DPL who will care a bit less about the letter
of the constitution or the letter of the social contract, than
about
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each of those specific actions, why do you think they need DPL powers?
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* What *specific* actions, requiring DPL powers, will you do as DPL
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Russ Allbery r...@debian.org writes:
Ben Finney ben+deb...@benfinney.id.au writes:
By your arguments earlier in this thread, it seems this person's
interpretation, though contradictory with the GR, is equally valid.
The GR is, you say, non-binding. So what is the point of going
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Russ Allbery r...@debian.org writes:
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Are you saying the statement “this proposal conflicts with the
foundation documents” can be true for some people simultaneously
with being false for other people?
Of course it can be! That would only
Russ Allbery r...@debian.org writes:
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Russ Allbery r...@debian.org writes:
Ben Finney ben+deb...@benfinney.id.au writes:
Are you saying the statement “this proposal conflicts with the
foundation documents” can be true for some people
in the requirement for all
new members to declare they will uphold it.
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Though there seem to be a number of people vocally wishing Robert
would go away or the like, I have yet to see any substantive
response to the questions he's raised in this thread.
My apologies: the current acting Secretary has, indeed, been
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* Ben Finney [Tue, 30 Dec 2008 11:43:44 +1100]:
Don Armstrong d...@debian.org writes:
You should not be proposing or seconding an option that you
don't plan on ranking first.
(Don has, after subsequent argument, modified this to “… that you
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* Ben Finney [Fri, 02 Jan 2009 09:17:28 +1100]:
You should not write options you are not going to rank first,
because the people who do care about that option winning should
get to decide what's the wording that reflects their complete
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Le dimanche 23 novembre 2008 à 10:25 +1100, Ben Finney a écrit :
Personal attacks (to call my statements “lies” is to assert that
I'm knowingly stating falsehood) are not welcome.
This is not a personal attack. You are spreading lies
of the assertion?
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On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 10:34, Ben Finney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jacob Hallén [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Debian is not 100% free software, and it never has been.
Indeed. Those instances where it's not free are bugs to be fixed.
So, you actually
Sandro Tosi [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 13:41, Ben Finney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sandro Tosi [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 10:34, Ben Finney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jacob Hallén [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Debian is not 100% free software
Ben Finney [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
You seem to have missed what I said: In order to have *anyone* fix
them, they need to be acknowledged as DFSG violations. That's what
is being discussed: whether certain freedoms are or are not DFSG
violations (and therefore bugs).
Poorly phrased
Josselin Mouette [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Le dimanche 23 novembre 2008 à 00:09 +1100, Ben Finney a écrit :
You seem to have missed what I said: In order to have *anyone* fix
them, they need to be acknowledged as DFSG violations.
Would you please stop your lies
Personal attacks (to call
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Indeed, and I've no wish to impede anyone in efforts to fix bugs.
I'm arguing for interpretation of the social contract such that
DFSG violations are bugs by definition, so they can be fixed
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It appears what you don't understand is what the DFSG actually says,
since you're playing word substitution games with the text.
An accusation that could easily be made from many contradictory
positions. The DFSG is not unambiguous in its wording, which
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Fortunately, in the case of programmatic works and DFSG §2, the Debian
project has *already* voted on the interperatation and decided
URL:http://www.debian.org/vote/2006/vote_004 that the requirement
for source code applies to all programmatic works
Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 09:00:02AM +1100, Ben Finney wrote:
Whether loaded by the kernel or present on the chip, we have
promised that works without source code will not be distributed in
Debian.
We?
That's what I wrote, yes. I, like every other
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Johannes Wiedersich [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Ben Finney wrote:
The Debian system we provide is usable. There may be devices which
are not yet operable with Debian,
Which wireless card is supported by debian without any sourceless
firmware, either loaded by the kernel or present
Ben Finney [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
This gives no argument for why such bitstreams should be held to
different standards of freedom for its recipients. The properties
“not code that is run on the host CPU” is mentioned, but seems to
be irrelevant to the argument.
Can you re-write this so
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Pierre Habouzit [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The SC speaks about software, and doesn't define it.
The statement that Manoj refers to, [SC §1], does *not* speak
about software
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That seems to be an argument for proposing a re-wording of the
DFSG, so that freedoms are defined without referring to that mess
of terms. I would agree that could be a good motivation
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License texts *are* distributed by Debian, now, under terms that
are non-free. This behaviour doesn't match the Social Contract.
Sure, they are technically being distributed
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Ben Finney writes (Re: Request for GR: clarifying the license text licensing
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[The status quo] doesn't address the concern that motivated this
discussion: that the license texts which have restrictions on
modification are non-free
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