RE: [Declude.JunkMail] IDN Domains?

2004-02-20 Thread Hirthe, Alexander
Hello, reply from Ipswitch: IMail does not yet support international IDN characters. This is in our Requested Features database. I do not know how soon this will be added. Alex -Original Message- From: Hirthe, Alexander [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent:

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] ZOMBIE v1.0.0 for Declude JunkMail Pro v1.78 beta ---

2004-02-20 Thread nick
Matt - what are you considering to be the return code for AHBL-DUL? -Nick Hayer -- Original Message -- From: Matt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 18:45:26 -0500 This only works with Pro versions of the 1.78 beta

[Declude.JunkMail] Zombie Test

2004-02-20 Thread Kami Razvan
"Please return the favor and share with me any FP's that you see on this test so that I can make adjustments for the benefit of myself as well as others."Matt: Interesting test.. I added your filters to our system and just checked the log files. I simply added the test withzero weight to

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] ZOMBIE v1.0.0 for Declude JunkMail Pro v1.78 beta ---

2004-02-20 Thread Matt
nick wrote: Matt - what are you considering to be the return code for AHBL-DUL? SORBS-DULip4rdnsbl.sorbs.net127.0.0.1000 NJABL-DULip4rdnsbl.njabl.org127.0.0.300 NJABL-DYNAip4rdynablock.njabl.org127.0.0.30

[Declude.JunkMail] Bonded senders

2004-02-20 Thread Paul Fuhrmeister
Looking on the bondedsender.com web site, I see no where to report things like this: Received: from adsl-68-78-114-74.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net (adsl-68-78-114-74.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net [68.78.114.74]) Received: from ebay.com (data.ebay.com [66.135.195.180]) From: eBay Service [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Zombie Test

2004-02-20 Thread Matt
Kami, I turned SKIPIFWEIGHT off for this version of the test and found that it scored over 40% of my spam. With SKIPIFWEIGHT on, it scores around 3% to of the spam (stuff that would have been held or hadn't yet reached a hold weight). Because this hits only combinations of tests, you are much

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Zombie Test

2004-02-20 Thread Kami Razvan
Matt: What I like about Scott's new feature (not his own but that of Declude :) ) - is it makes triggering the CPU intensive filters (like our URL in body, etc.) less likely to be used. A lot of the ones that are deleted in our system hit our word filters and URL in body filters. If this

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] BLACKLIST FOR OUTGOING MAIL

2004-02-20 Thread Bridges, Samantha
Thanks for the help. That worked. When I change the action to REROUTE or MAILBOX, it doesn't reroute to a mailbox. When I se the action to WARN, I can see the warning in the headers. Do only some actions work with outgoing email? -Original Message- From: R. Scott Perry

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] ZOMBIE v1.0.0 for Declude JunkMail Pro v1.78 beta ---

2004-02-20 Thread Andy Schmidt
Matt, Don't remove any tests yet. They are just not being REPORTED if you use the new TestFailed... Contains... syntax to consolidate certain tests into one filter! I'm ready to report this bug - just documenting it now. Best Regards Andy Schmidt HM Systems Software, Inc. 600 East Crescent

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Zombie Test

2004-02-20 Thread R. Scott Perry
Scott: Any chance for adding a skip test if the weight is below a certain negative number. That is something that we will be looking into. -Scott --- Declude JunkMail: The advanced anti-spam solution for IMail mailservers since 2000. Declude

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Different Tests Failed for same mail?

2004-02-20 Thread R. Scott Perry
here a Declude log, version 1.78. Notice how it ends up with two different tests failed lines? Correct. There is one for each recipient. The second one lists much FEWER tests - but the same weight? Correct. That's because only tests that have an action greater than LOG or have a weight

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Zombie Test

2004-02-20 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
Kami, I am not sure how good that would be. The whole reason of giving negative weights is to counter balance possible failures on other tests. Otherwise, the tests giving such negative weights would in essence become white listings. John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Different Tests Failed for same mail?

2004-02-20 Thread Andy Schmidt
But Scott: The receipients looked the same to me? Best Regards Andy Schmidt HM Systems Software, Inc. 600 East Crescent Avenue, Suite 203 Upper Saddle River, NJ 07458-1846 Phone: +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business) Fax:+1 201 934-9206 http://www.HM-Software.com/ -Original Message-

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Different Tests Failed for same mail?

2004-02-20 Thread R. Scott Perry
The receipients looked the same to me? It's hard to tell what happened. At LOGLEVEL HIGH, Declude JunkMail will record which log file was used for each recipient, which can help in determining what happened. I'm guessing it has something to do with SWITCHRECIP ON.

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Different Tests Failed for same mail?

2004-02-20 Thread Andy Schmidt
That's because only tests that have an action greater than LOG ... are listed. Hm - did I hear this correctly? When I specify LOG then they do NOT appear in the LOG? That sounds contra-intuitive to me. The option should be called NOLOG, if that's what it does. It's one thing to hide actions

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Zombie Test

2004-02-20 Thread Kami Razvan
John.. Yes but .. (always a but).. We have all these tests that are great for catching spam.. e.g. our free email list- that list has domains of free emails. Naturally if an email is market by AutoWhite with -100 then I rather not have the free email be checked.. If certain emails pass

[Declude.JunkMail] Remove dns lookups and just do filter/blacklist?

2004-02-20 Thread Matt Robertson
Is there a way to get Declude JM Pro to *just* do blacklist lookups and run filters? I have my global.cfg chopped down to this, but loglevel=debug shows Declude is still toing revdns lookups. Can this and anything else 'extra' be switched off? Thx,

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Different Tests Failed for same mail?

2004-02-20 Thread R. Scott Perry
That's because only tests that have an action greater than LOG ... are listed. Hm - did I hear this correctly? Yes, I just didn't state it correctly; it should be greater than or equal to. -Scott --- Declude JunkMail: The advanced anti-spam

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Remove dns lookups and just do filter/blacklist?

2004-02-20 Thread R. Scott Perry
Is there a way to get Declude JM Pro to *just* do blacklist lookups and run filters? I have my global.cfg chopped down to this, but loglevel=debug shows Declude is still toing revdns lookups. Can this and anything else 'extra' be switched off? Unfortunately, there is currently no way to turn

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Different Tests Failed for same mail?

2004-02-20 Thread Andy Schmidt
Hi Scott: Sorry - may be my point got lost in the first question. My point is, that the medium log was created to eliminate verbose line-by-line information that the full log has. So now we have the summary line. But, when I specify LOG as an action then they do NOT appear in the LOG? That

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Different Tests Failed for same mail?

2004-02-20 Thread R. Scott Perry
But, when I specify LOG as an action then they do NOT appear in the LOG? They do. Only if the action is IGNORE *and* the weight is 0 will it not appear. -Scott --- Declude JunkMail: The advanced anti-spam solution for IMail mailservers since

[Declude.JunkMail] Summary Line suppresses tests that DID fail!

2004-02-20 Thread Andy Schmidt
Hi Scott, Now tests can be triggered and there is NO trace for that ever having happened? That can't be good, specially now that filters can be used instead of weights to process TESTSFAILED. Again, I respectfully submit that at least the SUMMARY line (the last line in the medium log) must be

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Summary Line suppresses tests that DID fail!

2004-02-20 Thread R. Scott Perry
Now tests can be triggered and there is NO trace for that ever having happened? It has always worked this way. If you don't want the tests logged, they won't be logged. That can't be good, specially now that filters can be used instead of weights to process TESTSFAILED. The filters work on all

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] BLACKLIST FOR OUTGOING MAIL

2004-02-20 Thread Bridges, Samantha
Sorry ScottI meant ROUTETOI typed what I was thinking I wanted it to do rather than the actual command. I did put a ROUTETO as the action. With blacklist as the test name, the actual entry was this: Blacklist ROUTETO [EMAIL PROTECTED] So what actions work on the outgoing email? I want

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] BLACKLIST FOR OUTGOING MAIL

2004-02-20 Thread R. Scott Perry
Sorry ScottI meant ROUTETOI typed what I was thinking I wanted it to do rather than the actual command. I did put a ROUTETO as the action. With blacklist as the test name, the actual entry was this: Blacklist ROUTETO [EMAIL PROTECTED] I would recommend upgrading to the latest beta --

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Bonded senders

2004-02-20 Thread Matt
I was hoping that someone else would answer this since I've been a bit down on Bonded Sender lately for their practice of allowing some spammers on their system and other things. Regardless, this isn't the fault of Bonded Sender, you are scanning on multiple hops and the spammer forged the

[Declude.JunkMail] Subject decoding

2004-02-20 Thread Matt
Scott, While subject decoding can be useful if you have a bunch of key phrase filters, currently it is disabling my ability to tag the E-mail as having base64 encoding of certain character sets. Any chance that you could allow it to be scanned both ways like you do with the body base64, or

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Summary Line suppresses tests that DID fail!

2004-02-20 Thread Andy Schmidt
I don't want to annoy you - I'm just trying to figure out why I'm having such a hard time comprehending this. The manual states: IGNORE = Does nothing (except add a log entry). Same as LOG action. LOG= The LOG action places an entry into the log file (C:\IMail\spool\dec.log by default).

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude JunkMail v1.78 (beta) released

2004-02-20 Thread Mark Smith
Scott, Are the additions in the 1.77i release for SKIPIFWEIGHT and MAXWEIGHT included in 1.78 beta? Just want to make sure I don't break my Gibberish tests. :) Thanks! Mark -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of R. Scott Perry Sent:

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Acting as a gateway for domains on other servers

2004-02-20 Thread Mark Smith
Look on the Ipswitch site for using iMail as a Gateway. There's an article on it. HINT: Use the HOSTS file. Mark -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Geiser Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 3:42 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude JunkMail v1.78 (beta) released

2004-02-20 Thread R. Scott Perry
Are the additions in the 1.77i release for SKIPIFWEIGHT and MAXWEIGHT included in 1.78 beta? Just want to make sure I don't break my Gibberish tests. :) Yes. We only keep one copy of the code, which means that once something makes it to an interim release, it will appear in the next beta

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Subject decoding

2004-02-20 Thread R. Scott Perry
While subject decoding can be useful if you have a bunch of key phrase filters, currently it is disabling my ability to tag the E-mail as having base64 encoding of certain character sets. Any chance that you could allow it to be scanned both ways like you do with the body base64, or

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Summary Line suppresses tests that DID fail!

2004-02-20 Thread R. Scott Perry
I don't want to annoy you - I'm just trying to figure out why I'm having such a hard time comprehending this. The manual states: IGNORE = Does nothing (except add a log entry). Same as LOG action. LOG= The LOG action places an entry into the log file (C:\IMail\spool\dec.log by default).

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Acting as a gateway for domains on other servers

2004-02-20 Thread Dan Geiser
Hey, John, et.al., I allocated some time to try again to set it up and test it, to take advantage of your kind offer, and 'lo and behold this time it worked! Doh. Anyway for those who are interested here's my synopsis for using IMail to do spam filtering on external domains, i.e. domains not

[Declude.JunkMail] idea for a test - maybe

2004-02-20 Thread Doug Anderson
Is there a test out there that checks for an email address in the subject line? Example: Jon Doe gets an email. In the subject line it has: Card #29546 - Award Pending for [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm seeing alot more of these. A test to match the to email address and subject contains

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Tom's Kill List (another erroneous entry)

2004-02-20 Thread Mike Gable
Another incorrect entry is this one: @ltgsys.com ID-20040121-000433 This is a company called Lighting Systems and is one of our business partners. Please fix. That's a matter of opinion, however, I will remove it for now. If I see more from them again, then I will place

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Tom's Kill List (another erroneous entry)

2004-02-20 Thread Rick Klinge
They don't accept mail to postmaster or abuse address either.. Maybe that is why? ~Rick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Gable Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 3:33 PM - FamHost To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE:

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] idea for a test - maybe

2004-02-20 Thread Matt
I have one called ADDRESSSUB. It's quite simple, and I give it 20% of my hold weight since this might cause some FP's, though I don't recall ever holding an E-mail with a hit for this. The file is a simple SUBJECT CONTAINS filter like so: - Global.cfg - ADDRESSSUB filter

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] idea for a test - maybe

2004-02-20 Thread Sanford Whiteman
Is there a test out there that checks for an email address in the subject line? eBay instant payment notifications: Item # - Notification of an Instant Payment Received from joe.user ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) AND, more important, sellers' responses to such e-mails, which may

[Declude.JunkMail] PayPal Phishing..

2004-02-20 Thread Kami Razvan
Hi; Is anyone else seeing this..? We are seeing a lot of email that is getting caught in our HOLD weight range with the following attributes: == X-Note: Scan Time: 16:49:41 on 02/20/2004X-Note: Spool File: D80d903e2005efd3f.SMDX-Note: Server Name: localhostX-Note: SMTP