Re: [Declude.Virus] W32.Neroma@mm virus in .jpg?

2003-09-08 Thread paul
http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sheesh! That's nice. What really gets me on these bugs, is that you're supposed to disable System Restore in ME/XP You would think that compressed backup data would be immune to this sort of thing. What's the point of h

Re[2]: [Declude.Virus] SoBig more prolific now?

2003-09-08 Thread Eje Gustafsson
If I where you and the infected machine connected directly to your mailserver I would create a BAN in Imail for this ip to prevent it to even connect and send anything to your server. / Eje Monday, September 8, 2003, 5:28:14 AM, you wrote: JP> I have sort of resigned myself to just continue dele

Re: Re[2]: [Declude.Virus] SoBig more prolific now?

2003-09-08 Thread Jeff Pereira
I'm tired of doing that - Original Message - From: "Eje Gustafsson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Jeff Pereira" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, September 08, 2003 10:42 AM Subject: Re[2]: [Declude.Virus] SoBig more prolific now? > If I where you and the infected machine connected direc

[Declude.Virus] double file extensions

2003-09-08 Thread Eje Gustafsson
Curious is there any way to disable/prevent double extensions as attachments ? With one of the last new viruses this weekend one virus managed to slip through between my automated updates to at least myself. And this was a double extension .JPG.exe there are no reasons what soever in my opinion th

RE: Re[2]: [Declude.Virus] SoBig more prolific now?

2003-09-08 Thread Marc Catuogno
I have been doing that, but I have heard that IMAIL's CAL can only handle 100 IPS and I am running at about 90 now. Most of the offenders are from Optimum online, I could block their whole IP range, but then I think my home Optimum users trying to POP or SMTP (maybe even Webmail)won't be able to c

Re[2]: [Declude.Virus] double extensions ?

2003-09-08 Thread Eje Gustafsson
Thanks Scott. Sorry for the first direct mail. Was supposed to been to the mailing list. Would it be possible to spec what double extensions you wouldn't allow? Say BANEXT TXT.EXE BANEXT JPG.EXE BANEXT GIF.EXE Where you assume there always is a . infront of the first "extension" ? That would

RE: [Declude.Virus] double file extensions

2003-09-08 Thread Kami Razvan
We have blocked .exe since the day we could block it. If anyone wants to send a .exe he/she is intelligent enough to be able to zip it. Accepting .exe is asking for trouble. Outlook Express by default will block .exe .. I am not sure about Outlook but I don't think it does. We have an autoreply

RE: [Declude.Virus] Blocking senders of Vulnerabilities

2003-09-08 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
> >>Maybe a shared file would be in order. > > Well, this would have to be approched with LOTS of caution. i.e. I > blocked a class A from China, this may not be what you would want to do, as > you may have users that need those particular China IPs. I am not talking about an outright block.

Re: [Declude.Virus] double file extensions

2003-09-08 Thread William Baumbach
a.. Microsoft Outlook 2002 does block most file extensions by default, here is a list of what it blocks and info on how to change its default behavior http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;290497 Sincerely, William J. Baumbach II [EMAIL PROTECTED] 9975 Pennsylvania Ave. Manas

RE: [Declude.Virus] W32.Neroma@mm virus in .jpg?

2003-09-08 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
Thanks Kami. John Tolmachoff MCSE CSSA Engineer/Consultant eServices For You www.eservicesforyou.com > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.Virus- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kami Razvan > Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 1:12 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > S

RE: [Declude.Virus] W32.Neroma@mm virus in .jpg?

2003-09-08 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
> What really gets me on these bugs, is that you're supposed to disable System > Restore in ME/XP You would think that compressed backup data would be > immune to this sort of thing. What's the point of having sys restore if > everytime you MAY have a virus you need to wipe ALL the restore data

Re: [Declude.Virus] double extensions ?

2003-09-08 Thread R. Scott Perry
Would it be possible to spec what double extensions you wouldn't allow? Say BANEXT TXT.EXE BANEXT JPG.EXE BANEXT GIF.EXE Where you assume there always is a . infront of the first "extension" ? That's something that we can probably add. -Scott

Re: [Declude.Virus] W32.Neroma@mm virus in .jpg?

2003-09-08 Thread paul
>>Not MS problem. Think about it. You make any kind of backup or archive of an >>infected file, the archive or backup contains that infected file. If you >>should restore that backup, you have restored the infected file. Right, I got that, but if you have 3 months of CLEAN restore points, you only

[Declude.Virus] Blue Screen on Imail with Declude Virus and Declude Junkmail

2003-09-08 Thread Mailing Lists
Hi all, hopefully someone can give us some insight to a problem related to BSOD we have been encountering on our Imail server Server is running Imail 8.02 with Declude Virus with scanners below and Declude Junkmail. Nothing else is running on the server. Declude Virus Config appears at end of thi

Re: [Declude.Virus] Blue Screen on Imail with Declude Virus and Declude Junkmail and Declude Junkmail

2003-09-08 Thread R. Scott Perry
hopefully someone can give us some insight to a problem related to BSOD we have been encountering on our Imail server I'm guessing that it is one of the 3 virus scanners. AV programs often access memory and hard drives at a low level, and are a bit more prone to issues like this than most appli

RE: [Declude.Virus] Blue Screen on Imail with Declude Virus and Declude Junkmail and Declude Junkmail

2003-09-08 Thread Greg Foulks
I hate to hijack the thread but... Why run so many scanners? We only run one scanner and have never had a problem... Are we missing something by not running more than one? Greg -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of R. Scott Perry Sent: Monday, Sep

Re: [Declude.Virus] Blue Screen on Imail with Declude Virus and Declude Junkmail and Declude Junkmail

2003-09-08 Thread Mailing Lists
Thanks Scott, I have a feeling it is F-Prot because when this first started happening, we did not have Netshield or AVG on the server. So we've disabled both F-prot and AVG for now and let's see what happens. If anyone else has seen similar issues please reply! Peter - Original Message ---

Re: [Declude.Virus] Blue Screen on Imail with Declude Virus and Declude Junkmail and Declude Junkmail

2003-09-08 Thread Mailing Lists
Well, yes. We only used Fprot till Mimail came out. At that time it took Fprot 4 days to update their definitions. So many customers started getting Mimail and complaining. To avoid the problem we decided to use multiple scanners to lower possibility of a virus slipping thru. However I don't think

RE: [Declude.Virus] Blue Screen on Imail with Declude Virus and Declude Junkmail

2003-09-08 Thread Stephan Fix
If it's worth $245 to you, I have had some success with Microsoft support being able to pinpoint the culprit using the memory dumps. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mailing Lists Sent: Monday, September 08, 2003 1:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED

RE: [Declude.Virus] W32.Neroma@mm virus in .jpg?

2003-09-08 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
> Right, I got that, but if you have 3 months of CLEAN restore points, you > only just got infected today, for example, you shouldn't have to trash every > restore point, only today's, or even yesterday's, or even a month back. for > that matter.. If that's the only way, why have restore points at

RE: [Declude.Virus] Blue Screen on Imail with Declude Virus and Declude Junkmail and Declude Junkmail

2003-09-08 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
Are you using the DOS version or Windows version of F-Prot? John Tolmachoff MCSE CSSA Engineer/Consultant eServices For You www.eservicesforyou.com > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.Virus- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mailing Lists > Sent: Monday, Septemb

Re: [Declude.Virus] Blue Screen on Imail with Declude Virus and Declude Junkmail and Declude Junkmail

2003-09-08 Thread Mailing Lists
Windows version, Peter - Original Message - From: "John Tolmachoff (Lists)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, September 08, 2003 3:26 PM Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Blue Screen on Imail with Declude Virus and Declude Junkmail and Declude Junkmail Are you using

RE: [Declude.Virus] Blue Screen on Imail with Declude Virus and Declude Junkmail and Declude Junkmail

2003-09-08 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
So right now, you only have Gristoft running, correct? Exactly when did this start? Have you run any performance monitors to see what is happening just before the BSOD? Any other AV software installed? What AV is protecting the server itself? John Tolmachoff MCSE CSSA Engineer/Consultant eServ

Re: [Declude.Virus] Blue Screen on Imail with Declude Virus and Declude Junkmail and Declude Junkmail

2003-09-08 Thread Mailing Lists
John, right now only Netshield 2000 SP1 is running, hasn't crashed yet but too early to tell. No, we haven't run any performance monitors yet - but the common thing in the BSOD is 100+ emails being processed by Imail/Declude. This will generally happen during peak hrs, we can actually duplicate i

[Declude.Virus] Latest Version

2003-09-08 Thread Timothy C. Bohen
Sorry if this is real obvious but I haven't upgrade my declude in a long time and I can't remember where to get the latest version. Can someone point me in the right direction? Thanks Timothy C. Bohen CMSInter.Net LLC / Crystal MicroSystems LLC === web

Re: [Declude.Virus] Latest Version

2003-09-08 Thread R. Scott Perry
Sorry if this is real obvious but I haven't upgrade my declude in a long time and I can't remember where to get the latest version. Can someone point me in the right direction? If it has been over a year, the first step is to order a Service Agreement at http://www.declude.com/order.htm . Otherw

RE: [Declude.Virus] Latest Version

2003-09-08 Thread Timothy C. Bohen
Uhh sorry another dumb question, but other than digging through old files can I find out if mine is expired?? Timothy C. Bohen CMSInter.Net LLC / Crystal MicroSystems LLC === web : www.cmsinter.net email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: 989.235.5100 x222 fax :

RE: [Declude.Virus] Latest Version

2003-09-08 Thread R. Scott Perry
Uhh sorry another dumb question, but other than digging through old files can I find out if mine is expired?? Unfortunately, that's the only way, aside from contacting us. I'll check our records and let you know off-list. -Scott --- Declude Junk