Re: basic decisions - coding conventions

2011-12-15 Thread Gerhard Petracek
hi @ all, i created [1] for collecting the suggestions. if you don't like one of the mentioned conventions, add your own suggestion. i'll start a vote about it on monday. regards, gerhard [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DELTASPIKE-12 2011/12/12 Jason Porter lightguard...@gmail.com

Re: [DISCUSS] [DELTASPIKE-3] BeanManagerProvider

2011-12-15 Thread Gerhard Petracek
- Original Message - From: Gerhard Petracek gerhard.petra...@gmail.com To: deltaspike-dev@incubator.apache.org Cc: Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 8:28 PM Subject: [DISCUSS] [DELTASPIKE-3] BeanManagerProvider hi @ all, fyi: please check [1

Re: basic decisions: test setup

2011-12-17 Thread Gerhard Petracek
hi mark, that's very similar to the idea implemented by manila :) regards, gerhard 2011/12/17 Jason Porter lightguard...@gmail.com I like the idea, however, that would be a very core change to both core arquillian and the containers. I don't think we'll get that anytime soon. Maybe a

[DISCUSS] [DELTASPIKE-4] ProjectStage

2011-12-19 Thread Gerhard Petracek
hi @ all, fyi: please check [1] before you answer. [2] provides a short introduction as well as the basic usage. [3] provides a short overview about implementing and using a custom (type-safe) project-stage the basic concept: the basic idea is to provide type-safe but extensible project-stages.

Re: [DISCUSS] [DELTASPIKE-7] ExpressionActivated

2011-12-19 Thread Gerhard Petracek
+1 (we could think about a different name) regards, gerhard 2011/12/19 Gerhard Petracek gerhard.petra...@gmail.com hi @ all, fyi: please check [1] before you answer. [2] provides a short introduction as well as the basic usage. the basic concept: via the annotation

Re: [DISCUSS] [DELTASPIKE-6] ProjectStageActivated

2011-12-19 Thread Gerhard Petracek
+0.5 e.g. for the name @ActivatedOnProjectStage, if we can also agree on @ActivatedOnExpression for [1]. regards, gerhard [1] http://s.apache.org/MeX 2011/12/19 Gerhard Petracek gerhard.petra...@gmail.com +1 (we could think about a different name) regards, gerhard 2011/12/19 Gerhard

git workflow

2011-12-20 Thread Gerhard Petracek
hi @ all, feel free to add your suggestions to [1]. regards, gerhard [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/DeltaSpike/Suggested+Git+Workflows

Re: [DISCUSS][DELTASPIKE-14] Generic Beans

2011-12-20 Thread Gerhard Petracek
hi antoine, imo we need at least a short but correct description as well as a clear vision (e.g. at least one real-world use-case which shows that there is a real benefit for users). @seam-social: it's nice that you could use it there, but currently i can't see the need to use it (compared to

Re: basic decisions - package and class naming

2011-12-21 Thread Gerhard Petracek
i agree with mark. regards, gerhard 2011/12/21 Mark Struberg strub...@yahoo.de As I see it we have 3 different options: 1.) .api.* + .impl.* because it's more easy to 'grab' any api package in e.g. an Arquillian test. If we don't have the modulename.api package name, then we cannot do

Re: [DISCUSS] [DELTASPIKE-5] Deactivatable

2011-12-21 Thread Gerhard Petracek
On 2011-12-19, at 2:49 PM, Gerhard Petracek wrote: hi @ all, fyi: please check [1] before you answer. [2] provides a short introduction as well as the basic usage. the basic concept: pre-configured cdi artifacts (like implementations of javax.enterprise.inject.spi.Extension

[DISCUSS] [DELTASPIKE-28] ServiceProvider

2011-12-21 Thread Gerhard Petracek
hi @ all, fyi: please check [1] before you answer. [2] is the implementation used in owb. i suggest to start with it (instead of the version of codi), because the version of codi provides additional mechanisms we might need later on (if we include the corresponding features). the basic concept:

Re: [DISCUSS] [DELTASPIKE-27] CodiConfig

2011-12-21 Thread Gerhard Petracek
+1 regards, gerhard 2011/12/21 Gerhard Petracek gerhard.petra...@gmail.com hi @ all, fyi: please check [1] before you answer. [2] shows how to provide custom config-values in a type-safe manner. the basic concept: CodiConfig itself is just a marker interface to find all config classes

Re: [DISCUSS] [DELTASPIKE-28] ServiceProvider

2011-12-21 Thread Gerhard Petracek
+1 regards, gerhard 2011/12/21 Gerhard Petracek gerhard.petra...@gmail.com hi @ all, fyi: please check [1] before you answer. [2] is the implementation used in owb. i suggest to start with it (instead of the version of codi), because the version of codi provides additional mechanisms

[DISCUSS] [DELTASPIKE-29] BeanNames

2011-12-21 Thread Gerhard Petracek
hi @ all, fyi: please check [1] before you answer. the basic concept: in myfaces codi all names for named beans (@Named of cdi) are placed as variables in an interface (one per module). to find such interfaces easily they implement a marker interface called BeanNames (see e.g. [2]) please send

Re: [DISCUSS] [DELTASPIKE-29] BeanNames

2011-12-21 Thread Gerhard Petracek
+1 regards, gerhard 2011/12/21 Gerhard Petracek gerhard.petra...@gmail.com hi @ all, fyi: please check [1] before you answer. the basic concept: in myfaces codi all names for named beans (@Named of cdi) are placed as variables in an interface (one per module). to find such interfaces

[DISCUSS] [DELTASPIKE-30] startup logging of module config

2011-12-21 Thread Gerhard Petracek
hi @ all, fyi: please check [1] before you answer. the basic concept: during the startup of an application myfaces codi writes information about the current environment to the log. (e.g. the values configured via [2] and the detected version and implementation of cdi and other modules do the

Re: [DISCUSS] [DELTASPIKE-30] startup logging of module config

2011-12-21 Thread Gerhard Petracek
+1 regards, gerhard 2011/12/21 Gerhard Petracek gerhard.petra...@gmail.com hi @ all, fyi: please check [1] before you answer. the basic concept: during the startup of an application myfaces codi writes information about the current environment to the log. (e.g. the values configured

Re: [DISCUSS] [DELTASPIKE-29] BeanNames

2011-12-21 Thread Gerhard Petracek
an easy topic. regards, gerhard 2011/12/22 Mark Struberg strub...@yahoo.de -0.8 I just don't see the benefit. Never used that in Codi. LieGrue, strub - Original Message - From: Gerhard Petracek gerhard.petra...@gmail.com To: deltaspike-dev@incubator.apache.org Cc: Sent

Re: git repository

2011-12-23 Thread Gerhard Petracek
...@gmail.com Gerhard, I am John Ament (Independent contributor) - John On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 11:23 AM, Gerhard Petracek gerhard.petra...@gmail.com wrote: hi john, you are still listed as initial committer (- ppmc member) at [1]. regards, gerhard [1] http://wiki.apache.org

Re: [DISCUSS] [DELTASPIKE-27] CodiConfig

2011-12-23 Thread Gerhard Petracek
SPI classes which are to be implemented/overwritten in a customer project to configure the provided functionality. LieGrue, strub - Original Message - From: Gerhard Petracek gerhard.petra...@gmail.com To: deltaspike-dev@incubator.apache.org Cc: Sent

Re: basic decisions: test setup

2011-12-23 Thread Gerhard Petracek
i would suggest that we start with an approach which is available right now and to refactor the tests later on (as soon as the mentioned approach is available in arquillian). @dan: yes - the basic idea is very similar to manila. +1 for adding the basic approach to arquillian itself and using it.

Re: [DISCUSS] [DELTASPIKE-8] @Veto

2011-12-23 Thread Gerhard Petracek
+0.5 for @Skip as mentioned in the original thread @Veto is accurate from a technical perspective, but it sounds strange for users who aren't aware of the mechanism behind. if we are talking only about @Veto vs @Skip and not about the other alternatives: +1 for @Skip regards, gerhard

Re: [DISCUSS] [DELTASPIKE-8] @Veto

2011-12-23 Thread Gerhard Petracek
hi arne, would be also ok for me - +1 regards, gerhard 2011/12/23 Arne Limburg arne.limb...@openknowledge.de What about @Exclude? Cheers, Arne -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Gerhard Petracek [mailto:gerhard.petra...@gmail.com] Gesendet: Freitag, 23. Dezember 2011 21:28

Re: [jira] [Created] (DELTASPIKE-13) Choose documentation format and tools

2011-12-23 Thread Gerhard Petracek
and provide that on github. then we play around with it and if it turns out to be good, then we can just push this branch to ds.asf:master wdyt? LieGrue, strub - Original Message - From: Gerhard Petracek gerhard.petra...@gmail.com To: deltaspike-dev@incubator.apache.org Cc: Sent

Re: Testing structure

2011-12-25 Thread Gerhard Petracek
+1 regards, gerhard 2011/12/25 Mark Struberg strub...@yahoo.de +1 for org.apache.deltaspike.core.test +1 for test structure. LieGrue, strub - Original Message - From: Jason Porter lightguard...@gmail.com To: deltaspike-dev@incubator.apache.org Cc: Sent: Sunday,

Re: [DISCUSS] [DELTASPIKE-27] CodiConfig

2011-12-25 Thread Gerhard Petracek
/incubator/DeltaSpikeProposal#line-175 2011/12/24 John D. Ament john.d.am...@gmail.com +1 How about SpikeConfig? On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 3:27 AM, Gerhard Petracek gerhard.petra...@gmail.com wrote: +1 for a new name. (initially it was a bit more. we reduced the functionality later

Re: [DISCUSS] [DELTASPIKE-8] @Veto

2011-12-26 Thread Gerhard Petracek
these are the names that were suggested: @Veto @Skip @Exclude @Deactivate @Ignore 2011/12/23 Gerhard Petracek gerhard.petra...@gmail.com: hi arne, would be also ok for me - +1 regards, gerhard 2011/12/23 Arne Limburg arne.limb...@openknowledge.de What about @Exclude

Re: [DISCUSS] [DELTASPIKE-8] @Veto

2011-12-27 Thread Gerhard Petracek
to ProcessAnnotatedType.veto(), which is precisely what happens to such annotated types. I have mixed feelings about @Exclude - I'd rather not introduce a new term, especially one that does not immediately make you think of CDI processing. On 2011-12-26, at 6:41 PM, Gerhard Petracek wrote: it looks like

Re: [DISCUSS] [DELTASPIKE-8] @Veto

2011-12-27 Thread Gerhard Petracek
represents the default implementation of the bean, correct? so an app developer can create a manual producer... right? On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 7:24 PM, Gerhard Petracek gerhard.petra...@gmail.com wrote: +1 for @Unmanaged (+1 for @Exclude if it's the only alternative we can agree on) regards

suggested git workflow/s

2011-12-29 Thread Gerhard Petracek
hi @ all, mark added some additional suggestions to the wiki [1]. besides that we have to discuss further topics like: - file encoding - line-endings - usage of special characters regards, gerhard [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/DeltaSpike/Suggested+Git+Workflows

Re: [DISCUSS] [DELTASPIKE-8] @Veto

2011-12-29 Thread Gerhard Petracek
the easiest way in this case is a formal vote about @Veto vs @Exclude vs @Unmanaged/@NotManaged regards, gerhard 2011/12/30 Dan Allen dan.j.al...@gmail.com On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 11:55, Marius Bogoevici marius.bogoev...@gmail.comwrote: I suggested @Unmanaged (or even @NotManaged, or

Re: incubator project status page

2011-12-30 Thread Gerhard Petracek
ok - thx jakob. regards, gerhard 2011/12/30 Jakob Korherr jakob.korh...@gmail.com Hi, I just created http://incubator.apache.org/projects/deltaspike.html, following the instructions at [1]. It should be available soon (after the sync is finished). I added all the basic information

Re: Project Planning

2012-01-02 Thread Gerhard Petracek
outcome. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 1, 2012, at 18:08, Gerhard Petracek gerhard.petra...@gmail.com wrote: hi mark, you are right - however, that's also only a basic agreement (see NarrowingBeanBuilder and AnnotatedTypeBuilder) regards, gerhard 2012/1/2 Mark Struberg strub

Re: [DISCUSS] [DELTASPIKE-6] ProjectStageActivated

2012-01-03 Thread Gerhard Petracek
the name, I think anything -ed makes sense for CDI integration, so +1 for ProjectStageActivated On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 7:55 PM, Gerhard Petracek gerhard.petra...@gmail.com wrote: hi, christian sent his opinion about the name. @others: please also send your

Re: [DISCUSS] [DELTASPIKE-7] ExpressionActivated

2012-01-03 Thread Gerhard Petracek
Porter lightguard...@gmail.com wrote: +1 for @ActivatedOnExpression. It reads better which goes a long way for easy to use, self documenting code. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 1, 2012, at 17:57, Gerhard Petracek gerhard.petra...@gmail.com wrote: hi, please send your

[DISCUSS] merging of features (@Veto, @ProjectStageActivated and @ExpressionActivated)

2012-01-03 Thread Gerhard Petracek
hi @ all, we came up with a new idea to merge @Veto, @ProjectStageActivated and @ExpressionActivated. arne combined [1] some of the previous suggestions and the result would solve the @Veto naming discussion as well. if we merge those features, we would get something like: @Exclude

Re: [DISCUSS] merging of features (@Veto, @ProjectStageActivated and @ExpressionActivated)

2012-01-03 Thread Gerhard Petracek
as discussed with mark we could think about details like inProjectStage vs ifProjectStage, however, basically +1 regards, gerhard 2012/1/3 Gerhard Petracek gerhard.petra...@gmail.com hi @ all, we came up with a new idea to merge @Veto, @ProjectStageActivated and @ExpressionActivated

Re: suggested git workflow/s

2012-01-03 Thread Gerhard Petracek
forward merges when you commit your branch back to master. As long as your rebase your branch onto the latest from master before your merge you'll be fine. On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 16:58, Gerhard Petracek gerhard.petra...@gmail.comwrote: the idea/s of this proposal: the commit history should

Re: incubator project status page

2012-01-07 Thread Gerhard Petracek
hi @ all, we should also add ppmc members to the page. regards, gerhard 2011/12/30 Gerhard Petracek gerhard.petra...@gmail.com ok - thx jakob. regards, gerhard 2011/12/30 Jakob Korherr jakob.korh...@gmail.com Hi, I just created http://incubator.apache.org/projects

Re: The following initial commiters are missing ASF

2012-01-07 Thread Gerhard Petracek
hi lincoln, yes - we will need it. that's usually part of the invitation mail. however, since you are aware of this vote (that isn't the case usually), you can send it at any time. regards, gerhard 2012/1/8 Lincoln Baxter, III lincolnbax...@gmail.com Thanks guys. Do you need an apache ID or

Re: The following initial commiters are missing ASF

2012-01-07 Thread Gerhard Petracek
short addition: this thread isn't a vote - it's just a discussion, but the rest doesn't change. regards, gerhard 2012/1/8 Gerhard Petracek gerhard.petra...@gmail.com hi lincoln, yes - we will need it. that's usually part of the invitation mail. however, since you are aware of this vote

Re: Please review DELTASPIKE-45

2012-01-09 Thread Gerhard Petracek
Message - From: Gerhard Petracek gerhard.petra...@gmail.com To: deltaspike-dev@incubator.apache.org Cc: Sent: Saturday, January 7, 2012 9:55 PM Subject: Re: Please review DELTASPIKE-45 hi jason, the only alternative which comes to my mind right now is to move the impl classes

official github mirror (was: Re: intermediate github mirror)

2012-01-13 Thread Gerhard Petracek
hi @ all, plans changed and our great infra team created the official mirror [1] sooner. (fyi: it will be migrated to the new approach as soon as it is available.) regards, gerhard [1] https://github.com/apache/incubator-deltaspike 2012/1/12 Gerhard Petracek gerhard.petra...@gmail.com hi

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Welcome Dan Allen and Lincoln Baxter III as DeltaSpike committers

2012-01-13 Thread Gerhard Petracek
welcome! regards, gerhard 2012/1/13 Mark Struberg strub...@yahoo.de Hi! The DeltaSpike team is happy to welcome Dan Allen and Lincoln Baxter III as new committers to our project. Welcome folks, and we hope you enjoy being part of this community! the Apache DeltaSpike PPMC

[DISCUSS] deltaspike v0.1

2012-01-13 Thread Gerhard Petracek
hi @ all, we resolved over 30 jira-tickets and we finished (agreement + import/implementation) ~10 mechanisms/features. imo: we should release early and often + it would be nice to start with the first steps for a release and start with the release of v0.1 in about 1-2 weeks. (the first release

Re: git commit: DELTASPIKE-50 javadoc for ConfigSource#getOrdinal

2012-01-14 Thread Gerhard Petracek
here we really just talk about the better default (which can be changed easily - in both cases). the following part is just important for projects which use both - jndi and system properties for the same low-level config-entry (e.g. the project-stage) from the perspective of our users: the

Re: [DISCUSS] Workflow for contributions

2012-01-17 Thread Gerhard Petracek
hi @ all, as we have seen the suggestion of christian works pretty well and at least for contributions via patches, we should use it imo (it's better than the typical thx to [name of contributor] in the commit message). @christian: if there are no objections, it would be nice if you add it to

Re: DeltaSpike IP clarifications

2012-01-17 Thread Gerhard Petracek
hi matt, imo we have to care about it in case of other external contributions we are going to get quite soon. however, in case of seam3 i don't see any issue at all. #1 redhat has a ccla on file #2 they contacted us [1] to join forces (and they found out that the asf is also a great place for

Re: Please review DELTASPIKE-45

2012-01-17 Thread Gerhard Petracek
hi @ all, today i reviewed it. my findings: #1: imo we shouldn't have public impl classes in the api module if we can avoid it. i made a small refactoring to reduce the visibility of those classes and i attached a patch which shows the suggestion at [1]. #2: i had a short talk with pete about

Re: [DISCUSS] Workflow for contributions

2012-01-18 Thread Gerhard Petracek
/17 Gerhard Petracek gerhard.petra...@gmail.com: hi @ all, as we have seen the suggestion of christian works pretty well and at least for contributions via patches, we should use it imo (it's better than the typical thx to [name of contributor] in the commit message). @christian

[DISCUSS] [DELTASPIKE-53] annotation literals for std. cdi annotations

2012-01-18 Thread Gerhard Petracek
hi @ all, while reviewing DELTASPIKE-45 i saw that some literal implementations for std. cdi annotations got into deltaspike as well. in myfaces codi we also have some literal implementations. esp. for DELTASPIKE-45 they make a lot of sense imo. - i created DELTASPIKE-53 and since there is just

[DISCUSS] [DELTASPIKE-54] dynamic literal-helper for simple annotations

2012-01-18 Thread Gerhard Petracek
hi @ all, like DELTASPIKE-53 this ticket is also related to DELTASPIKE-45. for users it might be useful to use: SimpleLiteral.of(MySimpleAnnotation.class) in combination with the builder methods instead of implementing literals manually (just for using them with the default values). at [1] you

Re: [DISCUSS] [DELTASPIKE-54] dynamic literal-helper for simple annotations

2012-01-18 Thread Gerhard Petracek
want to add the XML stuff soon I think? On 18 Jan 2012, at 17:27, Gerhard Petracek wrote: no - it's just that simple. ok - i'll edit the issue to review and discuss AnnotationInstanceProvider. thx regards, gerhard 2012/1/18 Pete Muir pm...@redhat.com +1. Solder offers

Re: [DISCUSS] [DELTASPIKE-54] AnnotationInstanceProvider

2012-01-18 Thread Gerhard Petracek
as mentioned by pete (earlier), the additional features (DELTASPIKE-54 vs DELTASPIKE-55) aren't type-safe. - +0.5 afaik we will need it for further features which need such a generic approach (no +1 because we haven't discussed them so far) regards, gerhard 2012/1/18 Jason Porter

Re: Jboss Forge plugin - prototype

2012-01-19 Thread Gerhard Petracek
hi rudy, nice - thx for the info! regards, gerhard 2012/1/19 Rudy De Busscher rdebussc...@gmail.com Hi All, I started with a prototype for the Jboss forge plugin for DeltaSpike. (1) For the moment, it just adds the dependencies to the POM. More functionality follows in the next

Re: [DISCUSS] [DELTASPIKE-53] annotation literals for std. cdi annotations

2012-01-19 Thread Gerhard Petracek
...@redhat.com wrote: +1 On 18 Jan 2012, at 16:47, Gerhard Petracek wrote: hi @ all, while reviewing DELTASPIKE-45 i saw that some literal implementations for std. cdi annotations got into deltaspike as well. in myfaces codi we also have some literal implementations. esp. for DELTASPIKE-45

Re: ClassDeactivator

2012-01-22 Thread Gerhard Petracek
hi mark, thx for starting the release-review as well. @a) imo that doesn't make sense at all. this mechanism is only for users and add-ons and won't be used by deltaspike itself. if something gets deactivated by one of both, it doesn't make sense to re-activate it again because that would cause

Re: git commit: DELTASPIKE-24 rework Deactivation logic

2012-01-22 Thread Gerhard Petracek
i know why you did it in this case - but in general: -1 for committing such large changes in case of an ongoing discussion. some hours ago i added a suggestion to [1] exactly for such cases. regards, gerhard [1] http://s.apache.org/oo 2012/1/22 strub...@apache.org Updated Branches:

Re: git commit: DELTASPIKE-24 rework Deactivation logic

2012-01-22 Thread Gerhard Petracek
we can do this even better. LieGrue, strub - Original Message - From: Gerhard Petracek gerhard.petra...@gmail.com To: deltaspike-dev@incubator.apache.org Cc: Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 3:23 PM Subject: Re: git commit: DELTASPIKE-24 rework Deactivation logic i know

Re: [DISCUSS] move Deactivatable stuff to a spi package?

2012-01-22 Thread Gerhard Petracek
. Nontheless, it was easy to add and doesn't harm to have it. Re the spi stuff. Means we gonna move only the ClassDeactivation to the spi package? LieGrue, strub - Original Message - From: Gerhard Petracek gerhard.petra...@gmail.com To: deltaspike-dev@incubator.apache.org Cc

Re: call for arms

2012-01-22 Thread Gerhard Petracek
+1 imo we should add the corresponding hints to the wiki. e.g. everything v0.9.x might change fundamentally, if we find a better approach (e.g. based on feedback provided by the community). (+ we agreed on release early and often already. some parts which need further discussions are known

Re: [DISCUSS] BeanManagerProvider API

2012-01-22 Thread Gerhard Petracek
. LieGrue, strub - Original Message - From: Gerhard Petracek gerhard.petra...@gmail.com To: deltaspike-dev@incubator.apache.org Cc: Sent: Monday, January 23, 2012 7:56 AM Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] BeanManagerProvider API hi christian, thx for moving this discussion

Re: [DISCUSS] BeanManagerProvider API

2012-01-23 Thread Gerhard Petracek
@IllegalStateException: +1 (that's what we have already). @christian: i agree and therefore we have the jndi lookup in place. we have never seen a npe caused by #getBeanManager, however, it also doesn't harm to check it. regards, gerhard 2012/1/23 Arne Limburg arne.limb...@openknowledge.de

Re: Jboss Forge plugin - prototype

2012-01-23 Thread Gerhard Petracek
hi rudy, i've added some ideas to [1]. regards, gerhard [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/DeltaSpike/Forge+Plugin 2012/1/19 Gerhard Petracek gerhard.petra...@gmail.com hi rudy, nice - thx for the info! regards, gerhard 2012/1/19 Rudy De Busscher rdebussc

Re: [DISCUSS] BeanManagerProvider API

2012-01-23 Thread Gerhard Petracek
code has to check explicitly. If it doesn't, the code will probably fail we NPEs. So my suggestion is to change #getBeanManager() to never return null and instead throw a meaningful runtime exception just like #getInstance() does it already. Christian 2012/1/23 Gerhard Petracek

Re: [REVIEW] ProjectStageProducer (part of DELTASPIKE-21)

2012-01-24 Thread Gerhard Petracek
) +1 On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 12:53, Gerhard Petracek gerhard.petra...@gmail.comwrote: hi, in this case we would have to move all util classes and helpers. maybe we should create an own package for such classes (e.g. util) - we would have - api - spi - util

Re: NPE question for PropertyFileConfigSource

2012-01-25 Thread Gerhard Petracek
hi jason, i just checked the original source-code in myfaces codi and there 'null' is part of the contract of the method. however, you are right - here it doesn't make sense since we are using it differently. regards, gerhard 2012/1/25 Jason Porter lightguard...@gmail.com As soon as I

Re: [DISCUSS] Logging

2012-01-25 Thread Gerhard Petracek
+1! regards, gerhard 2012/1/25 Mark Struberg strub...@yahoo.de -1 to i18n and typesafe logging for version one. Lincoln, why you hatin' on type-safe logging? Brother, hook me up with a +1 :) -Dan Hehe, that's the nice thing here at Apache. Since we only discuss those

Re: [CI] checkstyle error in core-api

2012-01-25 Thread Gerhard Petracek
hi rudy, it's the opposite - thx a lot for writing such things. @all: please run the build before you push your commits. regards, gerhard 2012/1/25 Rudy De Busscher rdebussc...@gmail.com fyi, The CI build failed with this checkstyle error: file

Re: NPE question for PropertyFileConfigSource

2012-01-25 Thread Gerhard Petracek
+1 regards, gerhard 2012/1/25 Jason Porter lightguard...@gmail.com +1 to Mark's idea of throwing a runtime exception instead of returning null. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 25, 2012, at 1:18, Gerhard Petracek gerhard.petra...@gmail.com wrote: hi jason, i just checked the original

Re: Joining the project

2012-01-25 Thread Gerhard Petracek
welcome adam! a nice starting point is [1] (and all resources linked there). if you miss an information, you are very welcome to ask. we just started with the wiki and we will improve it step by step. as soon as you have your cla on file, we will talk about the next steps concerning source-code

Re: [DISCUSS] (DELTASPIKE-15) @DefaultBean

2012-01-25 Thread Gerhard Petracek
2011/12/23 Christian Kaltepoth christ...@kaltepoth.de +1 2011/12/23 Gerhard Petracek gerhard.petra...@gmail.com: +1 if we keep the impl in impl-bda [1] regards, gerhard [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/DeltaSpike/Project+Structure 2011/12/23 Jason Porter

Re: Porting the CDI Query extension project to DeltaSpike

2012-01-26 Thread Gerhard Petracek
welcome thomas! a nice starting point is [1] (and all resources linked there). if you miss an information, you are very welcome to ask. we just started with the wiki and we will improve it step by step. as soon as you have your cla on file, we will talk about the next steps concerning source-code

Re: [jira] [Created] (DELTASPIKE-61) global alternatives

2012-01-26 Thread Gerhard Petracek
, Gerhard Petracek (Created) (JIRA) wrote: global alternatives --- Key: DELTASPIKE-61 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DELTASPIKE-61 Project: DeltaSpike Issue Type: New Feature Components: Core

Re: [DISCUSS] (DELTASPIKE-15) @DefaultBean

2012-01-26 Thread Gerhard Petracek
it well as is different than what's supplied via vanilla CDI. I'm fine going ahead and trying it out though. On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 14:40, Gerhard Petracek gerhard.petra...@gmail.comwrote: in myfaces codi we had different approaches for it. the problem was that sometimes

Re: [DISCUSS] (DELTASPIKE-15) @DefaultBean

2012-01-26 Thread Gerhard Petracek
it (of course that may be because I'm tired right now), but it looks good. On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 17:56, Gerhard Petracek gerhard.petra...@gmail.comwrote: hi @ all, i implemented the qualifier logic and pushed the current version to [1]. (i tested it with different servers.) (i also did

[COMMUNITY] DeltaSpike += Christian Kaltepoth

2012-01-28 Thread Gerhard Petracek
The DeltaSpike PPMC is proud to announce a new addition to our community. Please welcome Christian Kaltepoth as the newest DeltaSpike committer! @Christian: Please add yourself to the Parent-POM [1]. Welcome regards, Gerhard [1] http://s.apache.org/deltaspike_parent-pom

Re: supporting different approaches,...

2012-01-30 Thread Gerhard Petracek
the API developed by OWASP[2] team, based on the lines and concerns gathered by that open security group. [1] http://code.google.com/p/owasp-esapi-java/ [2] https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Main_Page On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 8:57 AM, Gerhard Petracek gerhard.petra...@gmail.com wrote: hi

Re: supporting different approaches,...

2012-01-30 Thread Gerhard Petracek
security frameworks like shiro (or at least we shouldn't block the possibility to implement such custom adapters easily). regards, gerhard 2012/1/30 Shane Bryzak sbry...@redhat.com On 30/01/12 18:57, Gerhard Petracek wrote: hi @ all, as discussed at [1] the current suggestion is to start

Re: Integration test structure #2

2012-01-30 Thread Gerhard Petracek
hi dan, thx! if you think about a) or b) mentioned by christian we should discuss it before you spend a lot of time on it. (because there are/were good reasons for not doing that.) @all: the only issues i saw (as well): - right now moving resources is broken. e.g.

Re: Integration test structure #2

2012-01-30 Thread Gerhard Petracek
. regards, gerhard 2012/1/30 Gerhard Petracek gerhard.petra...@gmail.com hi dan, thx! if you think about a) or b) mentioned by christian we should discuss it before you spend a lot of time on it. (because there are/were good reasons for not doing that.) @all: the only issues i saw

Re: AW: supporting different approaches,...

2012-01-30 Thread Gerhard Petracek
of? On 30 Jan 2012, at 12:45, Gerhard Petracek wrote: hi shane, that's a noble goal. however, i know a lot of users who will never use our security implementation - only the api/spi to integrate with the other modules of deltaspike (that's independent

[DISCUSS][SECURITY-API] [DELTASPIKE-64] @Secured

2012-01-31 Thread Gerhard Petracek
hi @ all, imo this feature of myfaces codi-core is a nice starting point for the security-api discussion, because the basic idea behind it is a very thin integration layer (which can be used by other modules). the basic concept: a cdi interceptor invokes (inline) voters to secure the target

Re: [DISCUSS][SECURITY-API] [DELTASPIKE-64] @Secured

2012-01-31 Thread Gerhard Petracek
D. Ament john.d.am...@gmail.com Is it up to the developer to define the bean that implements an interface? On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 6:59 AM, Gerhard Petracek gerhard.petra...@gmail.com wrote: hi @ all, imo this feature of myfaces codi-core is a nice starting point for the security-api

Re: [DISCUSS][SECURITY-API] [DELTASPIKE-64] @Secured

2012-01-31 Thread Gerhard Petracek
, Arne -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Gerhard Petracek [mailto:gerhard.petra...@gmail.com] Gesendet: Dienstag, 31. Januar 2012 13:14 An: deltaspike-dev@incubator.apache.org Betreff: Re: [DISCUSS][SECURITY-API] [DELTASPIKE-64] @Secured that's one option. a 2nd option is to use

Re: [DISCUSS][SECURITY-API] [DELTASPIKE-64] @Secured

2012-01-31 Thread Gerhard Petracek
, but discussing security mechanisms without discussing the stuff which needs to get secured is only half of the truth ;) LieGrue, strub [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/EXTCDI/jsf-usage.html#JSFUsage-TypesafeViewConfig - Original Message - From: Gerhard Petracek gerhard.petra...@gmail.com

Re: [DISCUSS][SECURITY-API] [DELTASPIKE-64] @Secured

2012-01-31 Thread Gerhard Petracek
Shane Bryzak sbry...@redhat.com On 01/02/12 00:21, Gerhard Petracek wrote: hi mark, thx for the heads-up. i just talked with shane about all those details. i don't see an issue with view-configs. codi just extracts the @Secured annotation during the bootstrapping process in case of view-configs

Re: Need a @Typed for custom project stage (documentation and test class issue)

2012-01-31 Thread Gerhard Petracek
time for us to kick the tires on @Exclude. On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 07:30, Gerhard Petracek gerhard.petra...@gmail.comwrote: hi rudy, thx! imo it's the right time to restart this discussion. mark prefers to use @Typed() for custom project-stages (@mark please correct me if i mix

Re: [DISCUSS][SECURITY-API] [DELTASPIKE-64] @Secured

2012-01-31 Thread Gerhard Petracek
care which way we go. On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 07:57, Gerhard Petracek gerhard.petra...@gmail.comwrote: hi shane, that's one of the reasons why i won't block it right now. if the majority prefers custom annotations, we should just introduce it after v0.1 and prototype

Re: Need a @Typed for custom project stage (documentation and test class issue)

2012-02-01 Thread Gerhard Petracek
. This eliminates a possible pitfall for users if they forget the @Typed annotation. Christian 2012/2/1 Peter Muir pm...@redhat.com: +1 to gerhards approach. -- Pete Muir http://in.relation.to/Bloggers/Pete On 31 Jan 2012, at 14:30, Gerhard Petracek gerhard.petra...@gmail.com

Re: [DISCUSS][SECURITY-API] [DELTASPIKE-64] @Secured

2012-02-01 Thread Gerhard Petracek
: Gerhard Petracek [mailto:gerhard.petra...@gmail.com] Gesendet: Mittwoch, 1. Februar 2012 08:54 An: deltaspike-dev@incubator.apache.org Betreff: Re: [DISCUSS][SECURITY-API] [DELTASPIKE-64] @Secured @christian: that's correct. but the advantage of using custom annotation arguments can't be used

Re: [DISCUSS][SECURITY-API] [DELTASPIKE-64] @Secured

2012-02-01 Thread Gerhard Petracek
as we have the final implementation (and therefore all the details) and we can remove the other approach. if we see that both make sense, we just keep them. regards, gerhard 2012/2/1 Gerhard Petracek gerhard.petra...@gmail.com yes - that's possible as well. short addition - 3b allows: @TwoOf

Re: FYI : URL of the Jenkins server running the integration tests at C4J

2012-02-01 Thread Gerhard Petracek
hi rudy, that's great - thx! i created an easier url [1] for it. regards, gerhard [1] http://s.apache.org/ds_it_os-servers 2012/2/1 Rudy De Busscher rdebussc...@gmail.com Hi All, The setup of the Jenkins server is (at last) completely done. You can access the status page at (1) The

Re: Error when building DeltaSpike

2012-02-01 Thread Gerhard Petracek
hi mehdi, yesterday we saw that also with our sonar build. jason said that they saw it also at seam3 (it is a jdk bug and you just have to upgrade to a newer jdk version). imo we should also apply your fix. thx regards, gerhard 2012/2/1 Mehdi Heidarzadeh heidarzad...@gmail.com Hi @All

Re: Incubator PMC/Board report for Feb 2012 ([ppmc])

2012-02-01 Thread Gerhard Petracek
hi @ all, i added a first draft to [1]. regards, gerhard [1] http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/February2012 2012/2/1 Marvin no-re...@apache.org Dear podling, This email was sent by an automated system on behalf of the Apache Incubator PMC. It is an initial reminder to give you plenty

[VOTE] Release of Apache DeltaSpike 0.1-incubating

2012-02-03 Thread Gerhard Petracek
Hi, I'd like to call a VOTE on releasing Apache DeltaSpike 0.1-incubating. Maven staging repository: https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachedeltaspike-187/ Source release:

Re: [VOTE] Release of Apache DeltaSpike 0.1-incubating

2012-02-03 Thread Gerhard Petracek
the source-release looks fine - +1 regards, gerhard 2012/2/4 Gerhard Petracek gpetra...@apache.org Hi, I'd like to call a VOTE on releasing Apache DeltaSpike 0.1-incubating. Maven staging repository: https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachedeltaspike-187/ Source

Re: [VOTE] Release of Apache DeltaSpike 0.1-incubating

2012-02-04 Thread Gerhard Petracek
didn't yet add my key to our repo. It can be found here: https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openwebbeans/trunk/KEYS LieGrue, strub - Original Message - From: Gerhard Petracek gpetra...@apache.org To: deltaspike-dev@incubator.apache.org Cc: Sent: Saturday, February 4, 2012 2:22

Result (was: Re: [VOTE] Release of Apache DeltaSpike 0.1-incubating)

2012-02-07 Thread Gerhard Petracek
thank you for voting! 16 binding +1 votes: - Antoine Sabot-Durand (ppmc) - Arne Limburg (ppmc) - Brian Leathem (ppmc) - Cody Lerum (ppmc) - Gerhard Petracek (ppmc, ipmc, mentor) - Jakob Korherr (ppmc) - Jason Porter (ppmc) - John Ament (ppmc) - Ken Finnigan (ppmc) - Marius Bogoevici

ipmc release vote(s)

2012-02-07 Thread Gerhard Petracek
hi @ all, fyi: i started the ipmc vote [1]. we have to do this additional step until we graduate. (a top level project can finish releases immediately as soon as the corresponding vote passed.) regards, gerhard [1] http://s.apache.org/B6a

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