Bill Nottingham wrote:
> Large changes in terms of the interaction paradigm, such as the switch from
> GNOME 2 and GNOME 3, can be problematic for users, but by presenting them
> with a very different interface, it can essentially 'force' a retraining,
> that can be assisted by docs, introduction
The migration of all our machines went just fine and the following actions
were taken:
1. all machines are finally living on their own rack
2. all machines are finally using their own network switch
3. all machines have been configured for the sysadmin team to access both
KVM / MGMT consoles.
I'm
Tomasz Torcz wrote:
>> You're making an argument about simplification in a thread about
>> middle-click, but the designs for what might happen to middle-click
>> have neither been finalised nor publicised. I think it would be better
>> to wait until the text selection designs have been documented
Emmanuele Bassi (eba...@gmail.com) said:
> you need a design first, if you want to comment on it. also, to dispel
> a myth: no design is "finished". ever.
>
> there is always time to fix things. there's also a certain amount of
> time between design and implementation, and then there's a certain
On Tue, 2013-09-24 at 20:00 +0100, Emmanuele Bassi wrote:
> > I think ”have not been publicised” is the exact pain point of design
> > process. Wider community has no insight into design until it's
> > finished. And it's too late for a meaningful input at that point.
>
> you need a design firs
Allan Day said:
> > I have read discussion of making things easier for new users, the key word
> > "discoverable"
> > is used more than once on the page about the proposal, etc.
> Which page? Which proposal?
The wiki, for example:
https://wiki.gnome.org/GnomeOS/Design/Whiteboards/Selections
hi;
On 24 September 2013 19:49, Tomasz Torcz wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 07:30:58PM +0100, Allan Day wrote:
>>
>> You're making an argument about simplification in a thread about
>> middle-click, but the designs for what might happen to middle-click
>> have neither been finalised nor publici
On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 07:30:58PM +0100, Allan Day wrote:
>
> You're making an argument about simplification in a thread about
> middle-click, but the designs for what might happen to middle-click
> have neither been finalised nor publicised. I think it would be better
> to wait until the text se
Ray Morris wrote:
> Allan Day said:
>
>> You're making a lot of assumptions here. When this story broke it was
>> on the basis of two commits, and had no other background information.
>
> I've read some of the discussion. The news stories did pick up on context
> menu, making it a non-default se
Allan Day said:
> You're making a lot of assumptions here. When this story broke it was
> on the basis of two commits, and had no other background information.
I've read some of the discussion. The news stories did pick up on context menu,
making it a non-default setting, etc.
It does appear t
Le 24/09/2013 18:15, Hashem Nasarat a écrit :
> Please don't be disparaging to grandmothers who use GNOME.
> http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/wiki/So_simple,_your_mother_could_do_it
Do you know his grandmother? How do you know she doesn't use GNOME ?
Please people, add real content to the topic, or
On Tue, 2013-09-24 at 12:15 -0400, Hashem Nasarat wrote:
>
> > tnks for all the job you are doing, it's really appreciate, I can
> say
> > GNOME 3 is so easy to use that also my grandmother can use it!!
> Please don't be disparaging to grandmothers who use GNOME.
> http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/wi
On 09/24/2013 11:59 AM, tglman wrote:
> Really?? are you removing the middle-click-paste??
>
> please don't do it!! tell me what I've to patch for keep it!! I'm
> ready to rewrite all Wayland !!
>
> tnks for all the job you are doing, it's really appreciate, I can say
> GNOME 3 is so easy to use t
Really?? are you removing the middle-click-paste??
please don't do it!! tell me what I've to patch for keep it!! I'm ready
to rewrite all Wayland !!
tnks for all the job you are doing, it's really appreciate, I can say
GNOME 3 is so easy to use that also my grandmother can use it!!
but is becomin
Ray Morris wrote:
> Middle click got Slashdotted. Some of the comments on Slashdot may be of
> interest:
> http://linux.slashdot.org/story/13/09/24/1252243/middle-click-paste-not-for-long
Must be a slow news day. That story is almost a month old.
> It seems to me that one should be careful of an
Middle click got Slashdotted. Some of the comments on Slashdot may be of
interest:
http://linux.slashdot.org/story/13/09/24/1252243/middle-click-paste-not-for-long
It seems to me that one should be careful of any change that may, in a few
cases, make things simpler for users while they are new,
On 24 September 2013 15:29, Olav Vitters wrote:
> Is there anything a distribution should do? I noticed you wanted
> something changed in the Fedora build system. Did I have that right and
> do we need similar changes in other distributions?
Well. The issue is more how we describe things like inp
I think the original thread was to talk about the new plans for GNOME 3.12.
If you want to have a flame about or against FreeBSD, you should start a
new thread, having this one to discuss about plans and some new features
for 3.12.
Thanks
2013/9/24 Zeeshan Ali (Khattak)
> On Tue, Sep 24, 2013
On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 02:46:14PM +0100, Richard Hughes wrote:
> - On some distributions, we have basic fonts previews in the addon category
>
> - On some distributions, we have input methods in the addon category
Is there anything a distribution should do? I noticed you wanted
something changed
On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 5:02 PM, Alberto Ruiz wrote:
> Hey Andrew, Zeeshan,
>
> 2013/9/24 Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) :
>> On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 10:03 AM, Andrew W. Nosenko
>> wrote:
>>> On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 10:58 PM, Jasper St. Pierre
>>> wrote:
On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 3:50 PM, Andy Tai w
Le 24/09/2013 15:44, Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) a écrit :
> But apparently its the only free OS worth caring about. I think Jasper
> was asking about distros as I'm pretty sure he is well aware that
> systemd doesn't run on an archaic OSs, such as FreeBSD.
Would you please people stop presenting things
On Tue, 2013-09-24 at 10:44 +0200, Julien Blanc wrote:
> I know this has been already discussed a lot, but application menu is
> currently broken.
I think pretty much every point you raised is a valid problem. Some
attention is needed here at the design level.
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Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) wrote:
> But apparently its the only free OS worth caring about. I think Jasper
> was asking about distros as I'm pretty sure he is well aware that
> systemd doesn't run on an archaic OSs, such as FreeBSD.
No need to be insulting.
Fred
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hi;
On 24 September 2013 08:03, Andrew W. Nosenko
wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 10:58 PM, Jasper St. Pierre
> wrote:
>> On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 3:50 PM, Andy Tai wrote:
>>>
>>> what would this mean for systems not using systemd?
>>
>>
>> Systems not using systemd already fall back to Console
On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 4:44 PM, Zeeshan Ali (Khattak)
wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 10:03 AM, Andrew W. Nosenko
> wrote:
>> On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 10:58 PM, Jasper St. Pierre
>> wrote:
>>> On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 3:50 PM, Andy Tai wrote:
what would this mean for systems not using
Hey Andrew, Zeeshan,
2013/9/24 Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) :
> On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 10:03 AM, Andrew W. Nosenko
> wrote:
>> On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 10:58 PM, Jasper St. Pierre
>> wrote:
>>> On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 3:50 PM, Andy Tai wrote:
what would this mean for systems not using syste
On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 3:03 AM, Andrew W. Nosenko <
andrew.w.nose...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 10:58 PM, Jasper St. Pierre
> wrote:
> > On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 3:50 PM, Andy Tai wrote:
> >>
> >> what would this mean for systems not using systemd?
> >
> >
> > Systems not using
Hi,
On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 9:14 AM, Matthias Clasen
wrote:
> I'll make the start for discussing 3.12 features by giving an update
> on the status of the Wayland port, and what work remains to be done
> next cycle.
> - finish the gdm support
I started on this last cycle but didn't get done in ti
Matthias started with a mail about Wayland, it seems a good idea to do
the same for GNOME Software:
In 3.10,
- We have a "technical preview" that includes desktop categories,
featured applications, and long descriptions for some apps. Installing
and removing are performed using the system Packag
On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 10:03 AM, Andrew W. Nosenko
wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 10:58 PM, Jasper St. Pierre
> wrote:
>> On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 3:50 PM, Andy Tai wrote:
>>>
>>> what would this mean for systems not using systemd?
>>
>>
>> Systems not using systemd already fall back to Consol
Em Tue, 2013-09-24 às 14:22 +0100, Emmanuele Bassi escreveu:
> hi Matthias;
>
> On 24 September 2013 14:14, Matthias Clasen wrote:
>
> > - many GNOME applications will work more or less under Wayland. One
> > class of applications that will not work currently is anything using
> > clutter-gtk, s
hi Matthias;
On 24 September 2013 14:14, Matthias Clasen wrote:
> - many GNOME applications will work more or less under Wayland. One
> class of applications that will not work currently is anything using
> clutter-gtk, see https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=695737
I reviewed the patche
I'll make the start for discussing 3.12 features by giving an update
on the status of the Wayland port, and what work remains to be done
next cycle.
In 3.10,
- the Wayland compositor port of mutter has been developed on the
wayland branch of mutter, and we've started to make tarball releases
of t
Hi,
On 24 September 2013 14:42, Petko Ditchev wrote:
>
> 1. Disabling ctrl+shift , alt+shit , etc. shortcuts for switching between
> layouts is IMO a step back in usability . Not to mention that everyone and
Those shortcuts still work.
> their grandma is used to switch layouts with the now depr
Hi everyone , I want to raise some issues I'm having , as a user from
a non-english-speaking country .
1. Disabling ctrl+shift , alt+shit , etc. shortcuts for switching
between layouts is IMO a step back in usability . Not to mention that
everyone and their grandma is used to switch layouts w
Ok, I've created the following page:
https://wiki.gnome.org/GnomeGoals/AppDataGnomeSoftware and added it as a
candidate in the goals list.
Cheers!
2013/9/23 Matthias Clasen
> On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 10:21 AM, Daniel Mustieles García
> wrote:
>
>
> > Matthias: just a question about the wiki: d
Le 2013-09-23 14:33, Matthias Clasen a écrit :
Hi,
But maybe there are other things that people are working on, or want
to work on for 3.12 ? Now is the time to make your ideas known, and
turn them into concrete plans.
Hi,
I know this has been already discussed a lot, but application menu is
On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 10:03:41AM +0300, Andrew W. Nosenko wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 10:58 PM, Jasper St. Pierre
> wrote:
> > On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 3:50 PM, Andy Tai wrote:
> >>
> >> what would this mean for systems not using systemd?
> >
> >
> > Systems not using systemd already fall b
On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 10:58 PM, Jasper St. Pierre
wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 3:50 PM, Andy Tai wrote:
>>
>> what would this mean for systems not using systemd?
>
>
> Systems not using systemd already fall back to ConsoleKit, which does not
> have any maintainer. We don't support features
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