nk I'd like to hear from maintainers what their perspective on this
issue is before being fully convinced that shifting the cycle to
accommodate Fedora's beta will automatically result in the quality
improvements being sought: any thoughts on why we might ha
orks fine. But if a goal of this is to smooth the
transition path and avoid a requirement for tooling to be updated, maybe
it would be useful.
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o about it?
>
> Doesn't Ctrl + PageUp/PageDown accomplish the same thing? That's what I
> use to switch from tab to tab.
Unfortunately, this isn't universal. Gedit, for example, uses Ctrl + Alt
+ PageUp/PageDown.
(And FWIW,
ions we present are the ones
that we encourage people to change is pretty much spot on
iain
[1] Which even members of KDE are now realising is an abomination.
[2] William Jon's? I never know how to properly address people who use
two names, sorry.
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> There was no prior discussion on usability list and when people raised
> concerns on it after the change was made (and even now) or how it was made,
> they are being treated like children.
The developer is in charge of the project, stop t
ith libtracker-client you don't even have to think DBus
> anymore.
I saw the DBus API, I just didn't seriously think you were proposing
it as application facing API.
Porting the QTtracker library (or writing a high-level GObject
equivalent) should be a pri
to make our APIs as simple and easy to use as possible to enable
developers to make the applications without distracting them with
irrelevant implementation details. If this already exists, I apologise
and blame the lack of documentation.
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etc and know that nothing will break.
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could
never be set, so it would always be the first run for the user, pinned
notes would never be pinned and synchronization would always require
you to start over.
These things should have been stored with a GKeyFile in the
~/.config/Tomboy directory, IMO
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> You should purchase a separate license from the Mutter authors...
That would be completely impossible.
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do whatever you want.
And thats completely NOT what I want and has missed the point.
But I see that no-one else cares
So I shall stop caring as well.
And this is my last mail on the subject
Enjoy
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n a previous email.
> Thinking about accessible sounds reminded me of this one - the sound we
> play when GDM starts is an accessibility feature.
I know. And is an application specific sound so would be provided by
the application.
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On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 11:38 AM, Patryk Zawadzki wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 12:09 PM, Iain * wrote:
>> On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 10:38 AM, Patryk Zawadzki
>> wrote:
>>> Actually all the sounds have (almost) complete context including full
>>> text alternat
gossip (check
> your /etc/sound/events/ and prove me wrong).
And this is proof that the sound theme works, or that people don't use
the sounds?
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currently, I
don't think its a good idea to be adding more names to the list)
It also makes it even more sounds to learn.
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eir sounds?!
How do you get a tango icon theme if its up to applications to ship
their own icons?
Most applications now ship tango icons, and they look somewhat out of
place if my icon theme isn't tango
How do you get a star trek theme that has a "printer has finished
printing" sound effect
On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 10:30 AM, Karl Lattimer wrote:
> Apple have done a good job making sounds fit with what's happening.
You mean by providing a single "System sound"[1] like I'm advocating
and leaving the rest up to application authors?
iain
[1]http://c.sk
On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 10:41 AM, Behdad Esfahbod wrote:
>> On Fri, 2008-12-12 at 10:27 +, Iain * wrote:
>>> These are all under the class of "something has happened which you did
>>> not specifically ask to happen and may require your attention"
>>>
and everything else is read out to them.
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> obnoxious...
I did mention that in the initial email.
subtle sounds. I have ideas on how a subtle sound should be created
but I thought I'd wait until I'd made a few examples first.
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sound.
Its a weird and interesting edge case.
> So killing >ALL< sounds is a bit silly
No-one was talking about killing ALL sounds.
I was talking about replacing the myriad of sound effects that we have
with one sound.
A sound that is easy to learn its meaning, unlike 125 random sounds
it means. Was that swish new email or
CD burning finished? The user closes the laptop lid and hears
"lid-close" sound, thinks "what was that sound?" and opens the laptop
to check.
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[1] This is what the positive sound concept is trying to solve
seconds of installing a new computer.
The trick is when to use the one sound correctly, but as we now have a
definition for that sound
"Something has happened that you did not specifically ask to happen
and may require your attention"
I think we can work it out.
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[1] http://0pointer.de
d, which allows you to change
> + vino password. Similar to Unix passwd command. (Jorge Pereira)
> +
> + Fixes
> +
> + + Bug #534262 - cyclic clipboard propagation (Jonh Wendell)
> + + Minor bug fixes
> +
> + Translations
> +
> + + Djihed Afifi (ar)
> + + Rostislav "zbrox" Raykov (bg) [...]
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op mode.
>
> Can that be done (is this the right solution for the Metacity hackers to
> follow)?
As Havoc said there's no right or wrong answer. Pick one and stick with it.
> If so, will this be "hard"?
I'd imagine so, as it would proba
On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 11:59 PM, Patryk Zawadzki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Well even if you try to read just a 10k file you can get stuck if
> another application is causing excessive IO (and I tend to run such
> applications). It's hard to delegate each disk operation to a separate
> thread
plication that should be fixed,
rather than insisting that a compositor is used to work around the
issue.
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On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 10:49 PM, Patryk Zawadzki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Nah, one thing about a compositor is that it keeps off-screen copies
> of all the windows so it does not have to invalidate regions when the
> stacking order changes.
To be totally honest, I've never really thought of
7;d thought of that first...
/*
* Copyright (C) 2007 Iain Holmes
* Based on xcompmgr - (c) 2003 Keith Packard
* xfwm4- (c) 2005-2007 Olivier Fourdan
*/
>
> And although you think translucency is the only useful feature, I think
> window shadows are an essential addition
On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 6:13 PM, Patryk Zawadzki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'd say for me the only essential feature of a compositor is not
> watching the goddamn windows redraw each time you switch apps and
> workspaces.
Then you don't need a compositor
Turn it off. problem solved.
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ncy without
any stupid effects at all.
Because really, the only essential feature of a compositor is
translucency, everything else is just extra guff.
(Ironically, its working perfectly except for translucent windows...)
But none of this is relevent to the gnome-sess
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 7:11 PM, Alan Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, 16 Jun 2008 17:48:31 +0100
> "Iain *" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 11:20 AM, Alan Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > In LANG=C you call gt
tf-8 compatible.
This is the point we're trying to make.
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On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 5:19 PM, Anders Feder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> In Sebastian's architecture, Conduit would invoke Soprano, which would
> then access Evolutions database through a backend. This way, Evolution
> (and other applications) doesn't have to implement a SPARQL query
> parser.
On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 7:40 PM, Alan Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sat, 14 Jun 2008 18:42:24 +0100
> "Iain *" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 3:35 PM, Alan Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> > Thats be
d any rebuttal of them.
Have you considered the politicial sphere yourself by any chance?
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27;re talking about here. Your concerns, while
certainly perfectly valid for a certain domain, do not seem valid to
me at all in the context of what we're discussing and seem to be
somewhat luddite and unhelpful.
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On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 4:12 PM, Alan Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What about printing to files ? An "nm" also rather suggests that gnome
> apps do use printf and fprintf somewhat and many of the other functions
> mentioned. syslog() is another that is used.
I don't know what your use cases a
> http://folks,o-hand.com/iain/clutter-flow.png
damnit
http://folks.o-hand.com/iain/clutter-flow.png
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[2] plugin for Rhythmbox whitin 4
> > weeks ;-)
>
> That would be awesome.
>
> Here's the bug:
> http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=415816
http://folks,o-hand.com/iain/clutter-flow.png
here's something I knocked up last night
While its clearly not finished yet (I
ed help from
> volunteers to lead this effort.
A multimedia hackfest would be very useful to work out a solid plan of
action for the future.
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(and as author of gnome-cd I'd expect to be guest of honour at it)
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ce your software
on the gnome-announce mailing list so that people in the main
community know about it... Have you contacted anyone in the other
desktop2.0 projects to see if they are interested in your universal
applet idea?
iain (ignoring all the boring gnome3.0 shit)
we'll all meet up at the predesignated safe meeting
point...
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oning is wrong. It does make sense,
> when applied consistently. But it leads to ellipses on far
> too many menu items.
It doesn't really, we seem to have done pretty well so far...
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So, "Setup Bluetooth..." because the action is "Set up the Bluetooth".
Yes, you could use it to see the Bluetooth settings but thats not what
the menu item says.
> In short words: I don't agree.
Thats fine, but you're wrong.
iain
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use the action (Set up the
page) is not completed once the dialog is opened, further action is
needed before the page setup is complete.
thats always how I understood it all.
(And to answer the question above: "File -> Open Parent" needs ...,
the rest do not)
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ll local users to safely shutdown the machine.
Warning users that another user is logged on is of course a good idea.
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On 9/25/07, Iain * <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Oops, I forgot to reply to the second part.
> > Days with appointments/birthdays/etc are bold in the calendar.
>
> Now that we have the new tooltips are we able to have a tooltip when
> the cursor is over the emboldened d
> Oops, I forgot to reply to the second part.
> Days with appointments/birthdays/etc are bold in the calendar.
Now that we have the new tooltips are we able to have a tooltip when
the cursor is over the emboldened date to say why that date is
special?
ignificant contribution.
On a more serious note (i know, I'm in shock too) why don't we just
have a web page with everyone's names? that way its easy to update, we
can make it pretty, and put photos and biographies and what have you
on it.
iain
.
>
We could use Tracker to get the list of contributors if we mark them
with "GNOME Foundation member" metadata and it could update the list
in real time...
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mes in it)
I propose that we just replace it with a dialog that says
"
GNOME Version $(VERSION)
Written by Me
"
that'll solve all the problems and you can show off to your hearts content.
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> Seriously; look through the Spotlight documentation (there's a great
> deal actually). Come back and say this in not well defined.
That is what Spotlight does...that is an entirely separate thing to
"what we want from a desktop search system" and completely irrelevant.
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upport not added to
gnome-search-tool? Why was there a need for it to be forked into
tracker-search-tool? With a patch to g-s-t you wouldnt need to be in a
place where this unknown program was replacing a well used, and
well-tested one.
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acker. Your little story, cute as it was, presumed that the
solution was tracker.
People got excited by Bonobo 6 years ago, I know I did. We looked for
all sorts of places Bonobo could be used and we made them use Bonobo
even when Bonobo wasn't in any way th
d it so
that we didn't miss out on some perceived features war.
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On 1/10/07, Jamie McCracken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Iain * wrote:
> > On 1/10/07, BJörn Lindqvist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> I bet that the Epiphany developers does not think it is worth their
> >> time if Tracker doesn't get inc
nager
gnome-launch-box
apt-cache rdepends libebook1.2-5 is pretty long
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you will. We need to find the problems and then find the
best solution for those problems whatever it is.
Otherwise, we may be finding ourselves in 2012 with Tracker sitting
there, unused, unmaintained but buried in the stack as we step and
hack around it, like the
ouldn't be a weird tabular menu hybrid or require context menus on
menus (which is eeevil).
Weird.
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he lack of a places equivalent - but (at least, there may be
others) Ubuntu have added another entry to the combo box to deal with
that.
* Knowing the best way to initially populate the favourite
applications panel (or whatever it should be called).
There are other small thi
tracker used
in KDE as well?
(Plus I note that jeff/ebassi's concerns about what "tracker" is
haven't really been answered)
iain
PS: I would have similar objections to Beagle at this moment in time as well.
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On 1/9/07, Bryan Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I think this discussion is going to get a little off track here if
> everyone puts up their slab gripes and then iain or someone else tries
> to defend them all until either everyone reading the discussion is
> annoyed or one o
ility issue.
I dont think any of them count as usability issues really. Especially
if the usability tests are showing that slab is better. Unless you've
got usability tests to show that having a blue border around the
window is worse usability, then I don'
d
And I'm currently the person defending slab the most.
In fact, I don't see what having Beagle installed would help me use better :)
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laces" is very limited (contains only "computer", "network",
> "home" and "cd burner"). Places menu allows me to access all my
> local bookmarks and remote locations with one click and, at worst,
> one submenu.
>
As has b
unusable without
> a "recently used apps" menu,
Mine has this.
> a places menu that follows nautilus'
> bookmarks or deskbar functionality in its search bar.
>
> It would be ten times as useful if it would just implement those.
Agree ab
g to use it? Why did it not fit how you wanted to use it?
etc?
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l.
The application browser could be faster to open, but if you set the
favourites correctly, then you rarely need to use it.
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From: Iain * <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Jan 8, 2007 7:54 PM
Subject: Re: Proposed module: gnome-main-menu
To: Richard Hughes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
On 1/8/07, Richard Hughes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, 2007-01-08 at 19:3
On 10/24/06, Don Scorgie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, 2006-10-24 at 14:11 +0100, Iain * wrote:
> > > [3] If there is another way, I couldn't find it
> >
> > You can drag them from lots of places to the main menu and they'll be added.
>
> T
> [3] If there is another way, I couldn't find it
You can drag them from lots of places to the main menu and they'll be added.
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I, too, would like to know what a first class object database is, and
why I need one.
I know what Beagle is, it lets me search my data, and I know why I
need to do that...
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ifferentiate areas, I think we should do
more of this in GNOME.
And if it's replacing menus, I think it should replace both menus. We
dont want menus to be the new clocks.
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On 9/7/06, Pat Suwalski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Nothing's impossible, but a longer cycle every so often would encourage
> larger and better thought-out changes.
Or lots more not-so-well-thought-out changes...
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nothing new. I have stated my
opinion, and I'd be extremely happy if you left it at that.
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e, so only just
> noticed that such a thing was even in Evolution... but it's part of the
> desktop, no?]
This was part of the discussion of making tomboy use EDS for sharing
notes with evolution. I forget how that discussion ended up
iain
Oh, ok, my apologies. Its been a long time since my first run :)
iain
On 7/28/06, Alex Graveley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Tomboy already does this, though the description it gives is pretty
> minimal today. What do you think it should say?
>
> -Alex
>
> Iain * wr
On 7/28/06, Iain * <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Taking notes is hardly a power user thing. Most people like having a
> place that they can just scribble some notes down. My opinion is that
> if it is in anything it should be the desktop release.
Oh, and tomboy gives us enough n
know that
they missed the yellow sticky note app in the first place.
Having the first time importer doodah and maybe renaming it to just
Notes in the menu so people don't get confused because they don't know
what tomboy is.
Maybe on first run the Start Here note could pop up on screen and
ex
On 7/24/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Iain * wrote:
>
> >>The other example is gstreamer, I am sure they can share with us
> >> whether
> >> their decision to go with parallel-installable version of 0.8 and
> >> 0.10 was a
&g
r, it was very
pleasent. It allowed me to use applications that had been ported to
0.10 and applications that had not...all at the same time!
Yey for parallel installs
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The incorrect way is this way, change one, and then leave it there.
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o write newsletters, or send
out flyers.
- Small business/medium owners who need to do basic bookkeeping, stock
checking and making silly signs that say "No, we have no bananas" and
"I assure you we're open" when required.
Now I'm get
.
As we saw with Nautilus, it sucked. And RB's compact mode wasn't to
simplify the GUI, it was simply to take up less screenspace.
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what language it is written in matter to this blessing
at all then?
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discriminate on the language the
program is written in.
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On 7/16/06, Hubert Figuiere <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Iain * gmail.com> writes:
>
> > Why do we feel we are able to "bless" a terminal program and a text
> > editor and a clock, but unable to do the same to a video editor or an
> > audio editor?
>
> > Ubuntu, Gentoo, and the other distros should come with a music editor,
> > a video editor, and everything else. The discussion here I believe is what
> > should be made part of the basic gnome distribution, and I think that
> > music/video editors might not qualify.
>
> That's exactly what I me
On 7/15/06, Chipzz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Beagle
>
> Quite important IMO, but we have tracker as a replacement.
I'm not holding my breath for tracker really...Call it a hunch, or
female intuition or something...
> > Diva
>
> Same as monodevelop.
Umm, no, its a video editor...same as pit
On 7/15/06, Alvaro Lopez Ortega <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Of course, that was just an example. Actually, I put an
> interrogation mark after Java. However, if we accept the dependency
> of extra frameworks, it could end up being like that in a couple of
> years, so it wasn't a crazy id
re talking about adding one applet. Yes, in the future it may
allow other applications written in other languages, but look, we've
had python in the desktop for 2 releases now, and look how we're
inundated with applications written in python...one..
On 7/14/06, Alvaro Lopez Ortega <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Azureus and Eclipse come to mind.
>
> Two out of.. how many?
About 5 maybe 6 if you count "hello.world"?
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successful so quickly...
> The 'Zen of GNOME', and GNOME itself, is a very big piece of that success.
I understand that, and I'm totally not knocking what we've
accomplished so far, hey, I'm still here aren't I? I'm just wondering
what n
s writing
applications in C.
But hey, if sun has the time and money please feel free to rewrite all
our prototypes in C.
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rm libraries. it does not make sense to use
the gnome-desktop applications on it.
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On 7/14/06, Darren Kenny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Mono and Python etc are all very good in their own way, but I really don't see
> why they need to be part of the core GNOME desktop - this was why I wanted to
> break down the GNOME desktop into various groupings - so ISVs, etc. can make
> thei
; Again, you're probably one user on one machine - we need to "think out side of
> the box on your desk".
The claim was that "Microsoft themselves had to pull back from using
it for core functionality due to performance reasons". I don't imagine
those performance reasons were on multiuser application systems, so I
was responding within the same context.
iain
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