[Desktop_architects] Printing dialog and GNOME

2005-12-15 Thread ursus_r
Having followed the discussion about usability and/or freedom of choice and myself being rather one of those idiot users, who thus often likes to make a "minority's choice", I wonder if there wouldn't be a way to make *everybody* (independent of their needs) happy. If one looks at vlc (in GTK-inte

Re: [Desktop_architects] Re: Linux desktop, the fun thread

2005-12-15 Thread Jim Gettys
Linus, I think there may be other things going on here. X behavior is, at the moment, in its current incarnation, completely, totally braindead. It doesn't have to be this way. X is busywaiting on registers in *user* space; so the kernel thinks it is a hoggish process, so its priority gets dump

Re: [Desktop_architects] List moderation

2005-12-15 Thread John Cherry
On Thu, 2005-12-15 at 14:02 -0700, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > On Thursday 15 December 2005 10:34, John Cherry wrote: > > So again, if you are not a desktop architect committed to addressing > > these common focus areas, please remove yourself from this list. > > i propose that we check back on this i

Re: [Desktop_architects] Proposal for change to administration

2005-12-15 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Thursday 15 December 2005 10:07, Timothy D. Witham wrote: >As one who contributed to the noise - I think just a simple play nice > take this off the list to folks who do this is the right place to start. exactly that was done, actually. it seems to have had limited effect given today's ema

Re: [Desktop_architects] List moderation

2005-12-15 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Thursday 15 December 2005 10:34, John Cherry wrote: > So again, if you are not a desktop architect committed to addressing > these common focus areas, please remove yourself from this list. i propose that we check back on this in a week's time. if the voluntary actions you've requested here h

[Desktop_architects] List moderation

2005-12-15 Thread John Cherry
On Thu, 2005-12-15 at 09:00 -0800, Dan Kegel wrote: > On 12/15/05, George Staikos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Can we make this list invite-only for subscription and member-only posting? > > Signal:noise ratio is dropping faster than I can keep up with the messages. > > Yes, please. > (I'd even

Re: [Desktop_architects] Proposal for change to administration

2005-12-15 Thread Timothy D. Witham
On Thu, 2005-12-15 at 09:00 -0800, Dan Kegel wrote: > On 12/15/05, George Staikos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Can we make this list invite-only for subscription and member-only posting? > > Signal:noise ratio is dropping faster than I can keep up with the messages. > > Yes, please. > (I'd even

Re: [Desktop_architects] Proposal for change to administration

2005-12-15 Thread Dan Kegel
On 12/15/05, George Staikos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Can we make this list invite-only for subscription and member-only posting? > Signal:noise ratio is dropping faster than I can keep up with the messages. Yes, please. (I'd even like to see it at least partly moderated, but that might be aski

[Desktop_architects] Proposal for change to administration

2005-12-15 Thread George Staikos
Can we make this list invite-only for subscription and member-only posting? Signal:noise ratio is dropping faster than I can keep up with the messages. -- George Staikos KDE Developer http://www.kde.org/ Staikos Computing Services Inc. http://www.staikos.net/

Re: [Usability] Re: [Desktop_architects] Good Job

2005-12-15 Thread Alan Horkan
On Thu, 15 Dec 2005, Lubos Lunak wrote: > Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 15:33:20 +0100 > From: Lubos Lunak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: desktop_architects@lists.osdl.org > Cc: usability@gnome.org, Ryan Richards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [Usability] Re: [Desktop_architects] Good Job > > > Gee, won't t

Re: [Desktop_architects] Good Job

2005-12-15 Thread Lubos Lunak
Gee, won't this stop :( ? Dne čtvrtek 15 prosinec 2005 06:27 Ryan Richards napsal(a): > Mr. Waugh: > > Having recently read about Mr. Torvalds's comments on the KDE vs. Gnome > matter, I found the thread and drilled down into it a bit. It seems to me > that the features that Torvalds and others

Re: [Desktop_architects] Good Job

2005-12-15 Thread Celeste (seele) Paul
On Thursday 15 December 2005 00:27, Ryan Richards wrote: > Having recently read about Mr. Torvalds's comments on the KDE vs. Gnome > matter, I found the thread and drilled down into it a bit. It seems to me > that the features that Torvalds and others are complaining about are > trivial at best, wh

Re: [Desktop_architects] Printing dialog and GNOME

2005-12-15 Thread Murray Cumming
On Wed, 2005-12-14 at 16:36 +0100, Till Kamppeter wrote: > Murray Cumming wrote: > > The gnome-print list might be a better place to discuss this: > > http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-print-list/ > > > > Thanks for the link, I will have a look there. > > > Also, there seems to be consensus th