[jira] [Commented] (CAMEL-4350) Camel-jdbc with ListMap has arbitrary column order

2011-08-31 Thread Claus Ibsen (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CAMEL-4350?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanelfocusedCommentId=13094331#comment-13094331 ] Claus Ibsen commented on CAMEL-4350: Yeah fell free to provide a unit test for

[jira] [Assigned] (CAMEL-3521) OsgiLifecycleStrategy - To register and unregister camel services in OSGi service registry on-the-fly

2011-08-31 Thread Willem Jiang (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CAMEL-3521?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ] Willem Jiang reassigned CAMEL-3521: --- Assignee: Willem Jiang (was: Gert Vanthienen) OsgiLifecycleStrategy - To register and

[jira] [Resolved] (CAMEL-4351) Impossible to use placeholders in endpointName and serviceName attributes of cxf:cxfEndpoint

2011-08-31 Thread Willem Jiang (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CAMEL-4351?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ] Willem Jiang resolved CAMEL-4351. - Resolution: Fixed Fix Version/s: 2.9.0 Impossible to use placeholders in endpointName

[IMPORTANT] - Changing API - Must document changes in release notes

2011-08-31 Thread Claus Ibsen
Hi The API in camel-core have changed on trunk recently by the works of Christian S. I just to remind that its important to notice all the API breaking changes in the API section in the release notes. I have noticed that the release notes hasn't been updated accordingly to changes. I suggest to

Re: [IMPORTANT] - Changing API - Must document changes in release notes

2011-08-31 Thread Christian Schneider
Hi Claus, thanks for reminding. Documenting the changes make a lot of sense of course. Christian Am 31.08.2011 08:48, schrieb Claus Ibsen: Hi The API in camel-core have changed on trunk recently by the works of Christian S. I just to remind that its important to notice all the API

[jira] [Created] (CAMEL-4398) Add profile to camel-core pom.xml to have tools.jar added as dependency which is needed for CI servers

2011-08-31 Thread Claus Ibsen (JIRA)
Add profile to camel-core pom.xml to have tools.jar added as dependency which is needed for CI servers -- Key: CAMEL-4398 URL:

Re: [IMPORTANT] - Changing API - Must document changes in release notes

2011-08-31 Thread Christian Schneider
Documented the potentially incompatible changes in the release notes. Christian Am 31.08.2011 08:48, schrieb Claus Ibsen: Hi The API in camel-core have changed on trunk recently by the works of Christian S. I just to remind that its important to notice all the API breaking changes in the

[jira] [Commented] (CAMEL-4398) Add profile to camel-core pom.xml to have tools.jar added as dependency which is needed for CI servers

2011-08-31 Thread Claus Ibsen (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CAMEL-4398?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanelfocusedCommentId=13094501#comment-13094501 ] Claus Ibsen commented on CAMEL-4398: Sorry the issue is the tools JAR is added as dep

[Discuss] Remove generics and special message from file component

2011-08-31 Thread Christian Schneider
Currently the file component uses a special message GenericFile to send files into camel routes. This is bad as several other parts of camel need to deal with this type. It is already a bit better now that I introduced WrappedFile as an abstraction of GenericFile so other parts of camel do not

[jira] [Resolved] (CAMEL-4398) Add profile to camel-core pom.xml to have tools.jar added as dependency which is needed for CI servers

2011-08-31 Thread Claus Ibsen (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CAMEL-4398?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ] Claus Ibsen resolved CAMEL-4398. Resolution: Not A Problem We should upgrade the bundle plugin as it does not need the special

[jira] [Created] (CAMEL-4399) Upgrade to maven-bundle-plugin 2.3.5 and remove not needed special camel version for osgi manifest

2011-08-31 Thread Claus Ibsen (JIRA)
Upgrade to maven-bundle-plugin 2.3.5 and remove not needed special camel version for osgi manifest -- Key: CAMEL-4399 URL:

[jira] [Created] (CAMEL-4400) Consumer Endpoint for AWS SNS Service

2011-08-31 Thread JIRA
Consumer Endpoint for AWS SNS Service - Key: CAMEL-4400 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CAMEL-4400 Project: Camel Issue Type: Improvement Components: camel-aws Reporter:

[jira] [Commented] (CAMEL-4034) Create Camel component for Jclouds

2011-08-31 Thread Hadrian Zbarcea (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CAMEL-4034?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanelfocusedCommentId=13094578#comment-13094578 ] Hadrian Zbarcea commented on CAMEL-4034: @Ioannis, there are other files missing

[jira] [Reopened] (CAMEL-4398) Add profile to camel-core pom.xml to have tools.jar added as dependency which is needed for CI servers

2011-08-31 Thread Daniel Kulp (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CAMEL-4398?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ] Daniel Kulp reopened CAMEL-4398: Assignee: Daniel Kulp (was: Claus Ibsen) I have a better fix for this The tools jar is

[jira] [Resolved] (CAMEL-4398) Add profile to camel-core pom.xml to have tools.jar added as dependency which is needed for CI servers

2011-08-31 Thread Daniel Kulp (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CAMEL-4398?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ] Daniel Kulp resolved CAMEL-4398. Resolution: Fixed Add profile to camel-core pom.xml to have tools.jar added as dependency which

What is the purpose of camel-core-xml? Move the code to camel-core?

2011-08-31 Thread Christian Schneider
Hi all, can someone tell me what the purpose of camel-core-xml is and why it has to be a spearate project? It does not seem to have any other dependencies than camel-core. So if there is no good reason to keep it separate I propose to move that code into camel-core. Christian -- --

Re: What is the purpose of camel-core-xml? Move the code to camel-core?

2011-08-31 Thread Claus Ibsen
On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 5:40 PM, Christian Schneider ch...@die-schneider.net wrote: Hi all, can someone tell me what the purpose of camel-core-xml is and why it has to be a spearate project? It does not seem to have any other dependencies than camel-core. So if there is no good reason to

Re: What is the purpose of camel-core-xml? Move the code to camel-core?

2011-08-31 Thread Christian Schneider
That sounds to me like it would fit nicely in camel-core. Btw. is there a reason why camel-core-xml is scope provided in camel-spring? This gives me errors in some tests of other components in eclipse as these classes can not be found. Christian Am 31.08.2011 17:43, schrieb Claus Ibsen: On

Re: What is the purpose of camel-core-xml? Move the code to camel-core?

2011-08-31 Thread Claus Ibsen
On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 5:51 PM, Christian Schneider ch...@die-schneider.net wrote: That sounds to me like it would fit nicely in camel-core. No as that is just bloat to the core. Btw. is there a reason why camel-core-xml is scope provided in camel-spring? This gives me errors in some tests

[jira] [Closed] (CAMEL-4243) Enterprise Integration Patterns Web Page Documentation Incomplete

2011-08-31 Thread Robert Liguori (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CAMEL-4243?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ] Robert Liguori closed CAMEL-4243. - Resolution: Invalid Supported EIPs continue to grow, so this is an ongoing effort that cannot

[jira] [Created] (CAMEL-4401) StreamResequencer poisoned by bad Exchange

2011-08-31 Thread David Tombs (JIRA)
StreamResequencer poisoned by bad Exchange -- Key: CAMEL-4401 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CAMEL-4401 Project: Camel Issue Type: Bug Components: camel-core Affects

[jira] [Commented] (CAMEL-4401) StreamResequencer poisoned by bad Exchange

2011-08-31 Thread David Tombs (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CAMEL-4401?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanelfocusedCommentId=13094707#comment-13094707 ] David Tombs commented on CAMEL-4401: A possible kludge-fix could be to compare() every

Re: What is the purpose of camel-core-xml? Move the code to camel-core?

2011-08-31 Thread Christian Schneider
The camel-core is already bloated anyway. I see no reason to not include those classes. The current mechanism of directly including the classes in camel-spring and camel-blueprint is really strange and I think having some classes in core that are not needed in some cases is much better then

Re: [DISCUSS] - Apache Camel 2.8.1 release

2011-08-31 Thread Andreas Kuhtz
Hi, Is it possible to merge CAMEL-3968 on the 2.8.1 branch to have it in the 2.8.1 release? Best regards Andi -- View this message in context: http://camel.465427.n5.nabble.com/DISCUSS-Apache-Camel-2-8-1-release-tp4733505p4755143.html Sent from the Camel Development mailing list archive at

Re: What is the purpose of camel-core-xml? Move the code to camel-core?

2011-08-31 Thread Claus Ibsen
On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 7:45 PM, Christian Schneider ch...@die-schneider.net wrote: The camel-core is already bloated anyway. I see no reason to not include those classes. I may have posted the bloated word before which would be overstating what I meant. What I was to say is that camel-core-xml

Re: [Discuss] Remove generics and special message from file component

2011-08-31 Thread Claus Ibsen
On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 3:28 PM, Christian Schneider ch...@die-schneider.net wrote: Currently the file component uses a special message GenericFile to send files into camel routes. This is bad as several other parts of camel need to deal with this type. It is already a bit better now that I

Re: svn commit: r1163705 - in /camel/trunk/camel-core/src: main/java/org/apache/camel/impl/converter/PropertyEditorTypeConverter.java test/java/org/apache/camel/component/bean/BeanComponentCustomCreat

2011-08-31 Thread Claus Ibsen
I wonder if there wont be a problem when you shutdown camel, or run Camel in a hot deployment environment. As before the service would ensure start|stop callbacks, where we could clear the caches when stopping. That is now gone, which means we can just hope the GC eventually will be able to

Re: What is the purpose of camel-core-xml? Move the code to camel-core?

2011-08-31 Thread Donald Whytock
On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 3:26 PM, Claus Ibsen claus.ib...@gmail.com wrote: The core is 1.6mb which is not bloated. In fact with the core you can do really a lot with Camel, which impress a lot of people, and help make the project a success it is today. In all fairness, 1.6 mb is bigger than the

[jira] [Closed] (CAMEL-4330) add support for Aegis as a marshalling format

2011-08-31 Thread Robert Liguori (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CAMEL-4330?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ] Robert Liguori closed CAMEL-4330. - Resolution: Not A Problem Closing this issue... no real need for it. add support for Aegis as

Re: What is the purpose of camel-core-xml? Move the code to camel-core?

2011-08-31 Thread Claus Ibsen
On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 10:15 PM, Donald Whytock dwhyt...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 3:26 PM, Claus Ibsen claus.ib...@gmail.com wrote: The core is 1.6mb which is not bloated. In fact with the core you can do really a lot with Camel, which impress a lot of people, and help make

Re: What is the purpose of camel-core-xml? Move the code to camel-core?

2011-08-31 Thread Hadrian Zbarcea
In all fairness, it's becoming more and more bloated, alright. Donald was right to point it out too and did it in a very nice way. He was not comparing apples and oranges. My $0.02, Hadrian On 08/31/2011 05:14 PM, Claus Ibsen wrote: On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 10:15 PM, Donald

Re: What is the purpose of camel-core-xml? Move the code to camel-core?

2011-08-31 Thread Hadrian Zbarcea
Personally, I don't think we need a big jar. My understanding is that Christian is looking for ways to *improve* modularity and reduce dependencies. I am not a big fan of big fat jars (and my understanding is that that is not what Christian proposed). Modularity is a key aspect of Camel.

Re: svn commit: r1163705 - in /camel/trunk/camel-core/src: main/java/org/apache/camel/impl/converter/PropertyEditorTypeConverter.java test/java/org/apache/camel/component/bean/BeanComponentCustomCreat

2011-08-31 Thread Hadrian Zbarcea
Yes, I agree with that, reason why Registries that use caches *are* and should stay as Services. The PropertyEditorTypeConverter in particular doesn't need to be a Service, but the EndpointRegisty, ConsumerCache and ProducerCache should be and are Services. So you are correct about not

Re: [Discuss] Remove generics and special message from file component

2011-08-31 Thread Hadrian Zbarcea
Comments inline, Hadrian On 08/31/2011 03:34 PM, Claus Ibsen wrote: So what are your thoughts about that? Camel 2.x should be kept backwards compatible and API stable. We have end users who build custom components on top of the Camel file component and rely on the API being as is. That is

Re: What is the purpose of camel-core-xml? Move the code to camel-core?

2011-08-31 Thread Willem Jiang
camel-core doesn't have any third part dependencies (only slf4j). But the whole camel project may have 450M third part dependency as it out of our control. I think camel-core has some built-in components and EIP implementation helps user to start up a simple EIP journey by using a 1.6M tool

Re: What is the purpose of camel-core-xml? Move the code to camel-core?

2011-08-31 Thread Christian Schneider
camel-core-xml has only a bunch of classes. It adds not a single dependency. So I think it could be added to core. We can also leave it in a separate jar but then it should be that .. a simple jar. In the moment the camel-core-xml classes are directly imported into spring and blueprint

Re: What is the purpose of camel-core-xml? Move the code to camel-core?

2011-08-31 Thread Christian Schneider
Yes that is a good thing to do in 3.0. I just wanted to discuss and try to have an agreement to do it at some point. Christian Am 01.09.2011 03:01, schrieb Hadrian Zbarcea: Personally, I don't think we need a big jar. My understanding is that Christian is looking for ways to *improve*