Re: Using camel-test-infra-core vs regular testing

2023-07-27 Thread Andrea Cosentino
t; On Thu, Jul 27, 2023 at 10:23 AM Nicolas Filotto > wrote: > > > +1 to use GitHub Discussion too > > > > From: Andrea Cosentino > > Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2023 10:13 > > To: dev > > Subject: Re: Using ca

Re: Using camel-test-infra-core vs regular testing

2023-07-27 Thread Otavio Rodolfo Piske
Kind regards On Thu, Jul 27, 2023 at 10:23 AM Nicolas Filotto wrote: > +1 to use GitHub Discussion too > > From: Andrea Cosentino > Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2023 10:13 > To: dev > Subject: Re: Using camel-test-infra-core vs regular testing > &

Re: Using camel-test-infra-core vs regular testing

2023-07-27 Thread Nicolas Filotto
+1 to use GitHub Discussion too From: Andrea Cosentino Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2023 10:13 To: dev Subject: Re: Using camel-test-infra-core vs regular testing I'm +1 to use discussions and I think we could to enable it to INFRA. -- Andrea Cose

Re: Using camel-test-infra-core vs regular testing

2023-07-27 Thread Andrea Cosentino
I'm +1 to use discussions and I think we could to enable it to INFRA. -- Andrea Cosentino  -- Apache Camel PMC Chair Apache Karaf Committer Apache Servicemix PMC Member Email: ancosen1...@yahoo.com Twitter: @oscerd2 Github: oscerd On Thursday, July 27, 2023 at

Re: Using camel-test-infra-core vs regular testing

2023-07-27 Thread Claus Ibsen
Hi I had a talk with Otabio about this subject. There has been some misunderstanding and miscommunication on my part, and this mail thread may also have a few related subjects conflated. In the short term we should focus on bringing Camel 4.0 to GA. After this release then I think there is time

Re: Using camel-test-infra-core vs regular testing

2023-07-24 Thread Otavio Rodolfo Piske
On Mon, Jul 24, 2023 at 3:45 PM Nicolas Filotto wrote: > > One problem, IMHO, camel-test-junit5 already has a dependency chain that > is > > pretty complex, which is one of the things I wanted to solve ... But, > more > > Sorry if it is a naive question but can't it be solved or at least > improv

Re: Using camel-test-infra-core vs regular testing

2023-07-24 Thread Nicolas Filotto
> One problem, IMHO, camel-test-junit5 already has a dependency chain that is > pretty complex, which is one of the things I wanted to solve ... But, more Sorry if it is a naive question but can't it be solved or at least improved directly at camel-test-junit5 level? But please note this artifact

Re: Using camel-test-infra-core vs regular testing

2023-07-24 Thread Otavio Rodolfo Piske
Hi, On Mon, Jul 24, 2023 at 9:37 AM Nicolas Filotto wrote: > Hi, > > I tend to agree with Claus, camel-test-infra should be used only for > integration tests for the reasons raised by Claus but also due to its name. > It would be really misleading for the community to have to depend on an > arti

Re: Using camel-test-infra-core vs regular testing

2023-07-24 Thread Nicolas Filotto
Hi, I tend to agree with Claus, camel-test-infra should be used only for integration tests for the reasons raised by Claus but also due to its name. It would be really misleading for the community to have to depend on an artifact called camel-test-infra for a unit test don't you agree? In came

Re: Using camel-test-infra-core vs regular testing

2023-07-20 Thread Otavio Rodolfo Piske
Hi, On Thu, Jul 20, 2023 at 10:08 AM Claus Ibsen wrote: > Hi > > Sorry at this time I cannot support these kinds of changes. > > We have a standard practice in Camel on how to do unit tests (camel-test) > which we had for 15+ years. > We should dog food our own standard, and it's also a way for

Re: Using camel-test-infra-core vs regular testing

2023-07-20 Thread Claus Ibsen
Hi Sorry at this time I cannot support these kinds of changes. We have a standard practice in Camel on how to do unit tests (camel-test) which we had for 15+ years. We should dog food our own standard, and it's also a way for end users to see existing src/test code, how to use a given Camel compo

Re: Using camel-test-infra-core vs regular testing

2023-07-19 Thread Otavio Rodolfo Piske
Hi Claus, test infra solves a few problems that we have in camel-test-support-junit5: - it has a simpler dependency chain (it depends only on core) - it allows managing the service ordering explicitly (i.e.: it's possible to define in which order services can be initialized) - it is much simpler a