IPv6 in VPC (was Re: IPv6 plan - questions)

2014-01-06 Thread Marcus Sorensen
I've discussed this a bit with various subject matter experts at our datacenters/business, and so far we're leaning toward a rollout like this: * VPC has no global IPv6 prefix (super CIDR as current private space), it's simply IPv6 enabled or not. Admins can choose to route a /60 or a /48 to a vpc

RE: IPv6 in VPC (was Re: IPv6 plan - questions)

2014-01-09 Thread Daan Hoogland
(test-)attention needs to go to: HaProxy version/feature matrix has to be reviewed to check for ipv6 compatability. Does dnsmasq work with ipv6? Does keepalived work seemslessly? Ipv6 tables configuration needs to be pushed to the VRs -Original Message- From: Marcus Sorensen [mailto:s

Re: IPv6 in VPC (was Re: IPv6 plan - questions)

2014-01-09 Thread Marcus Sorensen
ancers to pull from. How will this range be made >> available? > Is a cidr configured? > Will we preconfigure all ranges or have a dynamic availability check? > > Radvd package is added to the systemvm template. (Done by Hugo this morning) > > Some standard UI components are ne

Re: IPv6 in VPC (was Re: IPv6 plan - questions)

2014-01-09 Thread Daan Hoogland
On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 5:28 PM, Marcus Sorensen wrote: > Do you have any specific reasoning or need for the > VPC itself to have a configured contiguous block, rather than just > assign the /64s the networks? convenience in configuring the upstream router. The idea is that everything on the netw

Re: IPv6 in VPC (was Re: IPv6 plan - questions)

2014-01-09 Thread Marcus Sorensen
On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 9:43 AM, Daan Hoogland wrote: > On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 5:28 PM, Marcus Sorensen wrote: >> Do you have any specific reasoning or need for the >> VPC itself to have a configured contiguous block, rather than just >> assign the /64s the networks? > > > convenience in configuri

Re: IPv6 in VPC (was Re: IPv6 plan - questions)

2014-01-10 Thread Daan Hoogland
I think you are overlooking the fact that if you do not assign a continuous block to a vpc you need to set routes upstream for every tier. If you do you can set only the vpc block and let the vpc router take care of the internal routing. Maybe I am wrong and we are just speaking a different type of

Re: IPv6 in VPC (was Re: IPv6 plan - questions)

2014-01-10 Thread Marcus Sorensen
Not necessarily. You can still set the upstream to send a /60 to VPC X, and then just assign individual /64s from that /60 into the networks in that VPC. You can create a route upstream for each /64, but you can also just program the contiguous /60 route into the upstream. That gives you future e

RE: IPv6 in VPC (was Re: IPv6 plan - questions)

2014-01-13 Thread Daan Hoogland
] Sent: vrijdag 10 januari 2014 6:14 To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org Cc: Daan Hoogland; Hugo Trippaers; Edwin Beekman; Erwin Blekkenhorst; Daan de Goede Subject: Re: IPv6 in VPC (was Re: IPv6 plan - questions) Not necessarily. You can still set the upstream to send a /60 to VPC X, and then just assign

Re: IPv6 in VPC (was Re: IPv6 plan - questions)

2014-01-13 Thread Marcus Sorensen
me, or to us I should say. > > Regards, > DaanH > > -Original Message- > From: Marcus Sorensen [mailto:shadow...@gmail.com] > Sent: vrijdag 10 januari 2014 6:14 > To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org > Cc: Daan Hoogland; Hugo Trippaers; Edwin Beekman; Erwin Blekkenhorst; Daan de

Re: IPv6 in VPC (was Re: IPv6 plan - questions)

2014-01-16 Thread Sheng Yang
Hi Marcus, Sorry for jump in late. On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 12:11 PM, Marcus Sorensen wrote: > I've discussed this a bit with various subject matter experts at our > datacenters/business, and so far we're leaning toward a rollout like > this: > > * VPC has no global IPv6 prefix (super CIDR as curr

Re: IPv6 in VPC (was Re: IPv6 plan - questions)

2014-01-16 Thread Marcus Sorensen
On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 12:23 PM, Sheng Yang wrote: > Hi Marcus, > > Sorry for jump in late. > > On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 12:11 PM, Marcus Sorensen wrote: > >> I've discussed this a bit with various subject matter experts at our >> datacenters/business, and so far we're leaning toward a rollout like

Re: IPv6 in VPC (was Re: IPv6 plan - questions)

2014-01-16 Thread Sheng Yang
ived work seemslessly? > According to http://www.keepalived.org/, it should work. But seems works are still going on. --Sheng > Ipv6 tables configuration needs to be pushed to the VRs > > -Original Message- > From: Marcus Sorensen [mailto:shadow...@gmail.com] > Sent:

Re: IPv6 in VPC (was Re: IPv6 plan - questions)

2014-01-16 Thread Chiradeep Vittal
ted >>for >> VPC routers/static nat/loadbalancers to pull from. How will this range >>be >> made available? >> Is a cidr configured? >> Will we preconfigure all ranges or have a dynamic availability check? >> >> Radvd package is added to the systemvm t

Re: IPv6 in VPC (was Re: IPv6 plan - questions)

2014-01-16 Thread Marcus Sorensen
gt;> Is a cidr configured? >> Will we preconfigure all ranges or have a dynamic availability check? >> >> Radvd package is added to the systemvm template. (Done by Hugo this >> morning) >> >> Some standard UI components are needed. >> >> (test-)at

Re: IPv6 in VPC (was Re: IPv6 plan - questions)

2014-01-16 Thread Marcus Sorensen
alancing etc as well? >>> Or at least think >>> about what impact these decisions have. >>> This is not a version 1 consideration?!? >>> >>> > * We assume there will be an ipv6 public range assignable, allocated >>>for >>> VPC routers/stati

Re: IPv6 in VPC (was Re: IPv6 plan - questions)

2014-01-17 Thread Daan Hoogland
On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 8:45 AM, Marcus Sorensen wrote: > guest networks, my initial preference would be for SLAAC, but I think > ultimately we'd want to be able to assign multiple ips to a guest. > With the 64 bits of the SLAAC space dedicated to all of the unique MAC > address possibilities, we

Re: IPv6 in VPC (was Re: IPv6 plan - questions)

2014-01-17 Thread Marcus Sorensen
>From what I understand, SLAAC only works with /64s, larger breaks various discovery protocols and is against RFC. Half of the address is the prefix and the other half is (mostly) MAC. What you're describing would work if we didn't want to do SLAAC, but would require an alternate means of assignmen

Re: IPv6 in VPC (was Re: IPv6 plan - questions)

2014-01-17 Thread Daan Hoogland
Ok, I though those could come from the same vpc range. On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 2:58 PM, Marcus Sorensen wrote: > From what I understand, SLAAC only works with /64s, larger breaks > various discovery protocols and is against RFC. Half of the address is > the prefix and the other half is (mostly) M

Re: IPv6 in VPC (was Re: IPv6 plan - questions)

2014-01-17 Thread Chiradeep Vittal
t;to >>>> implement and enforce? >>>> >>> >>>The routing is controlled by upstream router, so it's straightforward >>>that >>>ACL would be done by upstream router. >>> >>>But after rethink, modifying the upstream route

Re: IPv6 in VPC (was Re: IPv6 plan - questions)

2014-01-17 Thread Sheng Yang
This is not a version 1 consideration?!? > >> > >> > * We assume there will be an ipv6 public range assignable, allocated > for > >> > VPC routers/static nat/loadbalancers to pull from. How will this > range be > >> > made available? > >> Is a cidr

Re: IPv6 in VPC (was Re: IPv6 plan - questions)

2014-01-17 Thread Marcus Sorensen
clients than servers; that is, a >>>>>client >>>>> moving around the country would be traceable because of the MAC, but a >>>>> server always has the same address anyway. >>>>> >>>>> > * Still need to figure out what to

Re: IPv6 in VPC (was Re: IPv6 plan - questions)

2014-01-28 Thread Marcus
;/ >>>>>> VPC and the block will be routed. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> > * Work could be done in stages, e.g. SLAAC/manual network ranges >>>>>>would >>>>>> be fairly straightforward, whereas