Status of SVN Conversion?

2004-07-29 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Just curious: what's the status of the SVN conversion? Carsten Carsten Ziegeler Open Source Group, SN AG http://www.s-und-n.de http://www.osoco.net/weblogs/rael/

Re: Status of SVN Conversion?

2004-07-29 Thread David Crossley
Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Just curious: what's the status of the SVN conversion? That is something that we are all wondering. I just presumed that is was ready to go and got it like this: svn co https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/cocoon/trunk cocoon -- David Crossley

Re: [RT] A Groovy Kind of Sitemap

2004-07-29 Thread Marc Portier
Marcus Crafter wrote: On Wed, 2004-07-28 at 14:15, Carsten Ziegeler wrote: But let not implementation details (or technics) drive the syntax. It is more important to have a good sitemap language than to have a clean and small implementation. I agree too mate. Something that I'm wondering about

Design of unmarshaling sitemap component

2004-07-29 Thread URDINA Michal
Hi, I would like to discuss the design problem of the sitemap component. My plan is to develop special let's call it transformer for transforming sources for pages written or generated by analysts (model) to dynamic pages generating required results (implementation). The form of model is custom

RE: Status of SVN Conversion?

2004-07-29 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Ok, it seems that it works (=compiles), but I think it's not ready to go. The svn:ignore properties are missing! Carsten -Original Message- From: David Crossley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2004 8:47 AM To: Cocoon-Dev Subject: Re: Status of SVN Conversion?

Cocoon latest version

2004-07-29 Thread Halgurt Mustafa-Ali
Hi, I wrote a customer transformer, it works quite ok with cocoon2.1.4. Now I updated cocoon to the latest version and I get these errors below, have you changes anything? always when I want to create a new element calling the method (startElement()) I get the error, can anybody help me

Re: [RT] A Groovy Kind of Sitemap

2004-07-29 Thread Steven Noels
On 29 Jul 2004, at 09:19, Marc Portier wrote: Rest assured I'm equally concerned with a number of other voices here about (using Ugo's wording) 'giving just more rope to hang yourself in' However, when I see people 'removing and merging' then I can only see less rope :-) IMHO we need to be

RE: Cocoon latest version

2004-07-29 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Hi, a transformer for 2.1.4 should work under 2.1.5 - I'm not aware of any incompatible changes/problems in this area. Can you show us your source code, this might give us a clue. Carsten -Original Message- From: Halgurt Mustafa-Ali [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July

[GUMP@brutus]: cocoon-2.1/cocoon failed

2004-07-29 Thread Gump
to jar basename: [cocoon-tests] -DEBUG- Jar [cocoon-deprecated.jar] identifier set to jar basename: [cocoon-deprecated] -DEBUG- Dependency on avalon-framework exists, no need to add for property avalonapi.jar. -INFO- Made directory [/usr/local/gump/public/workspace/cocoon-2.1/build/cocoon-20040729

RE: Cocoon latest version

2004-07-29 Thread Halgurt Mustafa-Ali
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RE: Cocoon latest version

2004-07-29 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
-Original Message- From: Halgurt Mustafa-Ali [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, Thanks for replying. Please see the Attachment for the code and the error message. Ok, I guess the problem lies in this line: super.startElement (, result, result, null); You have to pass an

RE: Cocoon latest version

2004-07-29 Thread Halgurt Mustafa-Ali
Hi, Thank you very much, I will try that and tell you if it works. Best regards, Halgurt X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mailing-List: contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]; run by ezmlm list-help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] list-unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] list-post:

Re: [GUMP][PATCH] cocoon seems to require log4j

2004-07-29 Thread Adam R. B. Jack
Sorry, we were in the middle of switching to use SVN. Patches applied now to depend logging-log4j and to enable Gump to use our new SVN trunk. I knew that was occurring, I wasn't thinking, sorry. Thanks for working on it, and getting this done. Now you are using SVN with it's built in 'simple

Status of SVN Conversion!!!

2004-07-29 Thread Vadim Gritsenko
Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Ok, it seems that it works (=compiles), but I think it's not ready to go. Sorry, guys - forgot to post status :-) Cocoon 2.2-dev is here: http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/cocoon/trunk/ Cocoon 2.1.6-dev is here:

Re: [RT] A Groovy Kind of Sitemap

2004-07-29 Thread Reinhard Poetz
David Crossley wrote: Miles Elam wrote: snip excellent explanation/ Thanks Miles, you eloquently said everything that i wanted to say. Miles, thank you too! I couldn't say it better! -- Reinhard

RE: [RT] A Groovy Kind of Sitemap

2004-07-29 Thread Hunsberger, Peter
Conal Tuohy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Peter Hunsberger wrote: As others have said, one needs to step back and look at the overall objective: what do you want Cocoon to do when you feed it a request (either via http or CLI or whatever)? Figure out all the high level use cases and

RE: Design of unmarshaling sitemap component

2004-07-29 Thread Hunsberger, Peter
DURDINA Michal [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, I would like to discuss the design problem of the sitemap component. My plan is to develop special let's call it transformer for transforming sources for pages written or generated by analysts (model) to dynamic pages generating required

Re: [RT] A Groovy Kind of Sitemap

2004-07-29 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Steven Noels wrote: On 29 Jul 2004, at 09:19, Marc Portier wrote: Rest assured I'm equally concerned with a number of other voices here about (using Ugo's wording) 'giving just more rope to hang yourself in' However, when I see people 'removing and merging' then I can only see less rope :-)

Re: [GUMP][PATCH] cocoon seems to require log4j

2004-07-29 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Adam R. B. Jack wrote: Sorry, we were in the middle of switching to use SVN. Patches applied now to depend logging-log4j and to enable Gump to use our new SVN trunk. I knew that was occurring, I wasn't thinking, sorry. Thanks for working on it, and getting this done. Now you are using SVN with

Re: [RT] A Groovy Kind of Sitemap

2004-07-29 Thread Steven Noels
On 29 Jul 2004, at 19:34, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: A little bit of history is needed: Thanks for your recount of my lurking years. :-) Now, for those who were not there at that time: Ovidiu's proposal was *NOT* accepted happily. For the most part, it was not understood until several months

[proposal] Private Branches

2004-07-29 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
I've been a strong believer in 'internal innovation', which means to give room for people to experiment. We have now migrated onto SVN, which unlike CVS, has a great deal of support for moving things around and merging different parts of the tree together. My proposal is to create a private

Re: [RT] A Groovy Kind of Sitemap

2004-07-29 Thread Tony Collen
Steven Noels wrote: snip; IMHO, simplicity has to do with predictability. XML grammars have this, scripting languages don't. While the use of a non-XML (scripting?) grammar for the site/flowmap might be clever, it might reduce the predictability. Too much magic for my poor brains. And even XML

Re: [RT] A Groovy Kind of Sitemap

2004-07-29 Thread Steven Noels
On 29 Jul 2004, at 20:40, Tony Collen wrote: Steven Noels wrote: snip; IMHO, simplicity has to do with predictability. XML grammars have this, scripting languages don't. While the use of a non-XML (scripting?) grammar for the site/flowmap might be clever, it might reduce the predictability. Too

Re: [GUMP][PATCH] cocoon seems to require log4j

2004-07-29 Thread Adam R. B. Jack
I'll change that. And, I see that the cocoon repository (as metadata has it in Gump) is still marked as CVS, not SVN. I'll change that also.. BTW: It seems to have worked: http://brutus.apache.org/gump/public/cocoon-2.1/gump_work/update_cocoon-2.1.html Although it seems there may still be

Re: [proposal] Private Branches

2004-07-29 Thread Steven Noels
On 29 Jul 2004, at 20:20, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: My proposal is to create a private branch for every committer that wants it and place it in http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/cocoon/private/[id] Thoughts? I know I'm at the verge of becoming a traditionalist, but IMHO we should never create

Re: [proposal] Private Branches

2004-07-29 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Steven Noels wrote: On 29 Jul 2004, at 20:20, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: My proposal is to create a private branch for every committer that wants it and place it in http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/cocoon/private/[id] Thoughts? I know I'm at the verge of becoming a traditionalist, but IMHO we

extract Java continuations?

2004-07-29 Thread Mark Chrisman
Title: Message Has there been any discussion of extracting Java continuations into a standaloneproject? There are a lot of people (judging by web searches... and including me :-) who would love to use this functionality, but not in the context of Cocoon.

Re: [RT] A Groovy Kind of Sitemap

2004-07-29 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Ugo Cei wrote: Dear Cocooners, while working on Butterfly, I started looking at the TreeProcessor and I was astonished at the number of classes I have to port, if I want to reimplement it: o.a.c.components.treeprocessor: 26 classes o.a.c.components.treeprocessor.sitemap: 44 classes

Re: [RT] A Groovy Kind of Sitemap

2004-07-29 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Reinhard Poetz wrote: David Crossley wrote: Miles Elam wrote: snip excellent explanation/ Thanks Miles, you eloquently said everything that i wanted to say. Miles, thank you too! I couldn't say it better! +1 ! Sylvain -- Sylvain Wallez Anyware Technologies

Re: [proposal] Private Branches

2004-07-29 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: I've been a strong believer in 'internal innovation', which means to give room for people to experiment. We have now migrated onto SVN, which unlike CVS, has a great deal of support for moving things around and merging different parts of the tree together. My proposal

Re: [RT] A Groovy Kind of Sitemap

2004-07-29 Thread Geoff Howard
I'm still in skimming mode, but I'll lob a nearly incoherent thought in from the sidelines... On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 10:34:29 -0700, Stefano Mazzocchi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... A little bit of history is needed: - at the beginning there was no sitemap. all the pipeline machinery was

Re: [RT] A Groovy Kind of Sitemap

2004-07-29 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Geoff Howard wrote: Why insert this stream of consiousness into this discussion? I have a gut feeling that something in this discussion could lead to a solution along these or totally new lines that cures this uneasiness, or could make it even worse. I feel the same way: sitemap and flowscript

Re: [RT] A Groovy Kind of Sitemap

2004-07-29 Thread Tony Collen
Steven Noels wrote: On 29 Jul 2004, at 20:40, Tony Collen wrote: Scripting languages (and programming languages in general) are easy to create, all you need to do is define the grammar and tokens, and feed it all to something like JFlex/BYacc to create a parser. Perhaps it's easier said than

RE: [proposal] Private Branches

2004-07-29 Thread Corin Moss
What about playground? Works for us over here, and give people somewhere to throw their toys ;) -Original Message- From: Vadim Gritsenko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 30 July 2004 1:58 p.m. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [proposal] Private Branches Stefano Mazzocchi

Re: [RT] A Groovy Kind of Sitemap

2004-07-29 Thread Antonio Gallardo
Tony Collen dijo: Steven Noels wrote: On 29 Jul 2004, at 20:40, Tony Collen wrote: Scripting languages (and programming languages in general) are easy to create, all you need to do is define the grammar and tokens, and feed it all to something like JFlex/BYacc to create a parser. Perhaps

Re: [RT] A Groovy Kind of Sitemap

2004-07-29 Thread Antonio Gallardo
Stefano Mazzocchi dijo: And let's keep in mind that groovy is not even release final (I talked to James Strachan yesterday about this.. and he's obviously very excited and told me a way to implement continuations in groovy once macros are built into the language... which is due in the near