Re: [Vision] Knowing When We are Done

2005-12-08 Thread dave-
Berin Loritsch wrote: In all the talks of redesign or not, there has been a recurring question as to the vision. Sylvain has outlined some things that he would like to see, but they really don't constitute a vision. They are a nice list of improvements, but they aren't a vision. In my expe

[RF] Chainsaws and Seeds

2005-12-08 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Prologue I've followed the results of my "shaking the tree" last month with a mix of worry, amusement, anger, hope and despair, not necessarily in this order. RF stands for "random feelings". The web is undergoing a phase transition, from a web of pages to a web of data and services

[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Project cocoon-block-portal (in module cocoon) failed

2005-12-08 Thread Gump
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Project cocoon-block-portal (in module cocoon) failed

2005-12-08 Thread Gump
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Problem with the loc namespace: a user thought about cocoon

2005-12-08 Thread BURGHARD Éric
BURGHARD Éric wrote: > Hi, > > I'm using eXist XQueryGenerator in a simple pipeline. It works correctly > when i call it directly from my browser with correct parameters. > > Now this pipeline is called from > o.a.c.w.a.c.PipelineAuthenticator.authenticate(PipelineAuthenticator.java:145) > durin

Re: Cocoon F2F at ApacheCon

2005-12-08 Thread Berin Loritsch
Upayavira wrote: Matthew Langham wrote: I really think the current discussions on CocoonReloaded could do with some higher bandwidth talks to formulate a first "plan". How many Cocoonites will be at ApacheCon and could perhaps get together? I won't be there but Carsten is (for example).

RE: Cocoon NG vision: focusing on the primary functionality

2005-12-08 Thread Max Pfingsthorn
Hi! Very nice task :D Here is my vision, given these constraints: The next Cocoon should be boiled down to the basics most people need, and it would do what Cocoon 2 does best: XML processing. However, it would also allow for a more application-oriented (i.e. object oriented, not procedual or

Re: [Vision] Knowing When We are Done

2005-12-08 Thread Ross Gardler
Ross Gardler wrote: Sylvain Wallez wrote: Ross Gardler wrote: Now I'd better stop before I start convincing myself that people will find all 600 pages of my PhD interesting ;-) Any pointer for those that might be interested? This research is fairly old now (6 years), and things have mo

Re: [Vision] Knowing When We are Done

2005-12-08 Thread Ross Gardler
Sylvain Wallez wrote: Ross Gardler wrote: Now I'd better stop before I start convincing myself that people will find all 600 pages of my PhD interesting ;-) Any pointer for those that might be interested? This research is fairly old now (6 years), and things have moved on a little, althou

Re: Pull Parsing

2005-12-08 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Daniel Fagerstrom wrote: was: Re: Cocoon F2F at ApacheCon ... BTW, I started to sketch a proof of concept pull-based pipeline API and will commit it to whiteboard/cong once I've managed to set up a basic file/xslt/html pipeline with some content inspection in the middle. Cool. What about

[jira] Created: (COCOON-1705) LDAPTransformer fails with NPE on attribute change - work fine on 2.1.5.1

2005-12-08 Thread Warrell Harries (JIRA)
LDAPTransformer fails with NPE on attribute change - work fine on 2.1.5.1 - Key: COCOON-1705 URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COCOON-1705 Project: Cocoon Type: Bug Components: * Cocoon

Pull Parsing

2005-12-08 Thread Daniel Fagerstrom
was: Re: Cocoon F2F at ApacheCon ... BTW, I started to sketch a proof of concept pull-based pipeline API and will commit it to whiteboard/cong once I've managed to set up a basic file/xslt/html pipeline with some content inspection in the middle. Cool. What about letting it implement Proces

Re: JavaScript BOF at ApacheCon

2005-12-08 Thread Gianugo Rabellino
On 12/8/05, Sylvain Wallez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Gianugo Rabellino wrote: > > On 12/7/05, Sylvain Wallez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Cool! While at it, I took the liberty to reserve the slot right after > > this one for a Cocoon BOF: > > > > http://wiki.apache.org/apachecon/CocoonRelo

Re: JavaScript BOF at ApacheCon

2005-12-08 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Gianugo Rabellino wrote: On 12/7/05, Sylvain Wallez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi all, I was contacted recently by Martin Cooper, Struts PMC chair -- yikes! :-) -- that happens to know quite well the people behind DojoToolkit, and we chatted about the opportunity to have some coordinated eff

Cocoon NG vision: focusing on the primary functionality

2005-12-08 Thread hepabolu
Guys, reading the threads on Cocoon NG (Cocoon X? ;-) ) I get the feeling that, although much is said, you're more or less running around the heart of the matter without actually getting there. So maybe this little exercise might help: What should be the first functionality of Cocoon NG if y

Re: JavaScript BOF at ApacheCon

2005-12-08 Thread Gianugo Rabellino
On 12/7/05, Sylvain Wallez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi all, > > I was contacted recently by Martin Cooper, Struts PMC chair -- yikes! > :-) -- that happens to know quite well the people behind DojoToolkit, > and we chatted about the opportunity to have some coordinated effort wrt > to JavaScrip

Re: [Poll] We need to align on one point (was Re: [Vision] Knowing When We are Done)

2005-12-08 Thread Andreas Hochsteger
Berin Loritsch schrieb: So, please :-), only one language, and as cocoon (or whatever it's name will be :-) ) is a J2EE framework: _Java_ I hear you, and hopefully even more. Sorry for the interference :-), regards, tom Please interfere. Users lurking on dev are more than welcome to cont

Re: [Vision] Knowing When We are Done

2005-12-08 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Ross Gardler wrote: Now I'd better stop before I start convincing myself that people will find all 600 pages of my PhD interesting ;-) Any pointer for those that might be interested? Sylvain -- Sylvain WallezAnyware Technologies http://bluxte.net h

Re: Cocoon F2F at ApacheCon

2005-12-08 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Matthew Langham wrote: I really think the current discussions on CocoonReloaded could do with some higher bandwidth talks to formulate a first "plan". How many Cocoonites will be at ApacheCon and could perhaps get together? I won't be there but Carsten is (for example). Discussing the "plan" via

Re: Cocoon F2F at ApacheCon

2005-12-08 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 8 déc. 05, à 09:12, Upayavira a écrit : ...But at the same time we don't want to leave out thase that are not there It would be cool if you guys could keep us posted via the list, and maybe leave reports of your talks on the wiki as we did in Stuttgart. And don't forget the pics of t

Re: Cocoon F2F at ApacheCon

2005-12-08 Thread Torsten Curdt
I really think the current discussions on CocoonReloaded could do with some higher bandwidth talks to formulate a first "plan". How many Cocoonites will be at ApacheCon and could perhaps get together? I won't be there but Carsten is (for example). Discussing the "plan" via various email-thr

Re: Cocoon F2F at ApacheCon

2005-12-08 Thread Daniel Fagerstrom
Seem like a good idea, I will be there. /Daniel Matthew Langham wrote: I really think the current discussions on CocoonReloaded could do with some higher bandwidth talks to formulate a first "plan". How many Cocoonites will be at ApacheCon and could perhaps get together? I won't be there but C

Re: dealing with log messages from ehcache

2005-12-08 Thread David Crossley
Torsten Curdt wrote: > David Crossley wrote: > > > >The original problem still remains. How does Cocoon > >manage to get logkit to handle the ehcache messages, > >whereas with Forrest they come to the console? > > IIRC the integration with JCL was broken and Sylvain > fixed it in trunk. Thanks, t

Re: [Poll] We need to align on one point (was Re: [Vision] Knowing When We are Done)

2005-12-08 Thread Berin Loritsch
On Wednesday December 07, 2005 6:26 pm, Thomas Lutz wrote: > Though I am not a dev guy, I can't resist to vote, too. IMHO a mix makes > no sense. Too make a long story short I made struggled my way into > cocoon with > Last comment: Though this is not the question in this poll, I would even > ki

Re: Cocoon F2F at ApacheCon

2005-12-08 Thread Upayavira
Matthew Langham wrote: > I really think the current discussions on CocoonReloaded could do with some > higher bandwidth talks to formulate a first "plan". How many Cocoonites will > be at ApacheCon and could perhaps get together? I won't be there but Carsten > is (for example). I don't think you'l