Re: [HEADS-UP] Cocoon 2.2 and java 1.5 revisited.

2006-10-09 Thread Reinhard Poetz
Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: On 10/9/06, Antonio Gallardo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ...Because we claim 2.1 is java 1.3 when it fact few of us care about this compatibility and some blocks does not compile at all I think we voted on this a while ago: the 2.1 core and most blocks must work

Re: [HEADS-UP] Cocoon 2.2 and java 1.5 revisited.

2006-10-09 Thread Antonio Gallardo
Hi Simone, I agree with you, basically, it is a chicken egg problem, if we don't set java 1.5 as the minimal jvm, we will never start using typed collections, for-each etc. The fact is that most of us is using this new cool features and will be fine to use them in our cocoon code too. Best R

Re: [HEADS-UP] Cocoon 2.2 and java 1.5 revisited.

2006-10-09 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On 10/9/06, Antonio Gallardo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ...Because we claim 2.1 is java 1.3 when it fact few of us care about this compatibility and some blocks does not compile at all I think we voted on this a while ago: the 2.1 core and most blocks must work with 1.3, but some blocks mi

The Binding Samples doesn't work

2006-10-09 Thread Iris Mariezel Soto Estrada
Hello, The samples: http://cocoon.zones.apache.org/demos/21branch/samples/blocks/forms/form2xml.flow http://cocoon.zones.apache.org/demos/21branch/samples/blocks/forms/form2simpleXML.flow http://cocoon.zones.apache.org/demos/21branch/samples/blocks/forms/form2bean.flow is not working. The repeate

Re: environment abstraction in Cocoon 2.2

2006-10-09 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
[Resending to dev] Carsten Ziegeler wrote: > Joerg Heinicke schrieb: >> Wondering about your problem I had a look into the code - and the >> environment abstraction indeed still exists. I thought it already has >> been removed. I send this mail to dev list too, maybe somebody can >> comment on

Re: [HEADS-UP] Cocoon 2.2 and java 1.5 revisited.

2006-10-09 Thread Joerg Heinicke
On 09.10.2006 23:03, Antonio Gallardo wrote: I am thinking in 2.2 too. The above reference to 2.1 is just a sample of what we are repeating for 2.2. Because we claim 2.1 is java 1.3 when it fact few of us care about this compatibility and some blocks does not compile at all. This somehow makes

Re: Resolving Cocoon Dependencies with Ivy

2006-10-09 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Joerg Heinicke wrote: >>> If you are interested, I could add the Ivy build system into >>> tools/build... >> >> As it's still experimental IIUC, I'd prefer to have it somewhere >> under http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/cocoon/whiteboard/ > > So much I dislike Maven, shouldn't we be honest and

Re: [HEADS-UP] Cocoon 2.2 and java 1.5 revisited.

2006-10-09 Thread Antonio Gallardo
Bertrand Delacretaz escribió: On 10/9/06, Antonio Gallardo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ...Just some question: it is the same for 2.1, right? What is 2 different blocks with different jvm requirement needs the same jar?... I was mainly thinking about 2.2, but in your case, if a jar is compiled

[jira] Closed: (COCOON-1883) SOAPHelper only accepts replies with an XML declaration

2006-10-09 Thread JIRA
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COCOON-1883?page=all ] Jörg Heinicke closed COCOON-1883. - Fix Version/s: 2.2-dev (Current SVN) 2.1.10-dev (current SVN) Resolution: Fixed Yes, I think your fix is appropriate. The instantia

[jira] Assigned: (COCOON-1883) SOAPHelper only accepts replies with an XML declaration

2006-10-09 Thread JIRA
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COCOON-1883?page=all ] Jörg Heinicke reassigned COCOON-1883: - Assignee: Jörg Heinicke > SOAPHelper only accepts replies with an XML declaration > --- > >

Re: [HEADS-UP] Cocoon 2.2 and java 1.5 revisited.

2006-10-09 Thread Simone Gianni
Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: Does anything prevent us from having some blocks that require 1.5, while the core and "core blocks" (we might need to define which ones these are, but most of them are evident I thin) require 1.4? Nope, except that it could be a pain for users, but after all it would g

new avalon/excalibur test release

2006-10-09 Thread Jorg Heymans
Dear all, I have created a new test release of the avalon/excalibur components here [1]. The aim of this release was to convert a/e to maven2, so that people could include it in their m2 based projects using proper transitive dependency management based on clean poms. If you want to get invo

[jira] Closed: (COCOON-1869) MailMessageSender.java eats exception chain

2006-10-09 Thread JIRA
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COCOON-1869?page=all ] Jörg Heinicke closed COCOON-1869. - Fix Version/s: 2.2-dev (Current SVN) 2.1.10-dev (current SVN) Resolution: Fixed > MailMessageSender.java eats exception chain > ---

[jira] Updated: (COCOON-1869) MailMessageSender.java eats exception chain

2006-10-09 Thread JIRA
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COCOON-1869?page=all ] Jörg Heinicke updated COCOON-1869: -- Summary: MailMessageSender.java eats exception chain (was: MailMessageSender.java eats exception chain - which does not allow for proper dubuging and lo

Re: [GT2006] presentations will be online...

2006-10-09 Thread Joerg Heinicke
On 04.10.2006 09:30, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: At http://wiki.apache.org/cocoon/GT2006Presentations Speakers, please add your stuff (or links to it) there! No. 3 (Andreas Kühne) and no. 5 (Gianugo Rabellino) are still missing. Could you please ask your presentations as well? Thanks, Jörg

Re: Resolving Cocoon Dependencies with Ivy

2006-10-09 Thread Joerg Heinicke
If you are interested, I could add the Ivy build system into tools/build... As it's still experimental IIUC, I'd prefer to have it somewhere under http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/cocoon/whiteboard/ So much I dislike Maven, shouldn't we be honest and say there is no real chance of switch

Re: FYI : MNG-1797 fixed in latest snapshots

2006-10-09 Thread Jorg Heymans
Carsten Ziegeler wrote: I haven't followed the Maven mailing lists lately - is there any timeframe for a 2.0.5 release? If the jira roadmap[1] is anything to go by (53 of 235 issues have been resolved) then we're still quite far off a new release. OTOH, i'm using 2.0.5-snapshot at work and

Re: [HEADS-UP] Cocoon 2.2 and java 1.5 revisited.

2006-10-09 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On 10/9/06, Antonio Gallardo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ...Just some question: it is the same for 2.1, right? What is 2 different blocks with different jvm requirement needs the same jar?... I was mainly thinking about 2.2, but in your case, if a jar is compiled for 1.4 it will work with 1.5, r

Re: [HEADS-UP] Cocoon 2.2 and java 1.5 revisited.

2006-10-09 Thread Antonio Gallardo
Bertrand Delacretaz escribió: I think the only way to handle this is to decide on a JVM version for the core, and accept that some "non-core" blocks might have different requirements. +1. Just some question: it is the same for 2.1, right? What is 2 different blocks with different jvm requireme

Re: [HEADS-UP] Cocoon 2.2 and java 1.5 revisited.

2006-10-09 Thread Ralph Goers
Antonio Gallardo wrote: Ralph Goers escribió: 1. I don't see the point. There was a -1 that is unlikely to be changed. I am providing more reasons as brain food. I think people can change his mind over the time when more facts arises. 2. Since we will be distributing binaries with Maven - I

Re: [HEADS-UP] Cocoon 2.2 and java 1.5 revisited.

2006-10-09 Thread Vadim Gritsenko
Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: I think the only way to handle this is to decide on a JVM version for the core, and accept that some "non-core" blocks might have different requirements. +1 Vadim

Re: [HEADS-UP] Cocoon 2.2 and java 1.5 revisited.

2006-10-09 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On 10/9/06, Antonio Gallardo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ...I was updating some jars for cocoon 2.1.0. Qdox[1] version 1.6 was released in August 2006 (we are using now qdox 1.5) and it is distributed only for java 1.5! I know qdox is not the most used block, but it rings a bell!... Does anythi

Re: AW: RFC: CForms + Dojo: the way forward

2006-10-09 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Lars Trieloff wrote: > Hi Christopher, > > as the individual JS files are rather small, the most costly part is > requesting them from the web server, not downloading them. With an > aggregated file, there is only one single request. > > I agree that it does not make sense to create a JS file per f

Re: RFC: CForms + Dojo: the way forward

2006-10-09 Thread hepabolu
Jeremy Quinn said the following on 6/10/06 20:47: On 6 Oct 2006, at 18:46, hepabolu wrote: Jeremy Quinn said the following on 6/10/06 16:42: Hi All We had an informal group discussion on Tuesday at the Hackathon about CForms. The purpose of the discussion was to find a consensus on the dire

Re: AW: RFC: CForms + Dojo: the way forward

2006-10-09 Thread Lars Trieloff
Hi Christopher, as the individual JS files are rather small, the most costly part is requesting them from the web server, not downloading them. With an aggregated file, there is only one single request. I agree that it does not make sense to create a JS file per form because that would re

Re: AW: RFC: CForms + Dojo: the way forward

2006-10-09 Thread Jeremy Quinn
Hi Christofer On 9 Oct 2006, at 08:26, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I am following this discussion since the beginning. There is one thing I don't quite understand. I had a lot of problems with dojo, because it does a lot of caching on its own. If we package and compress the scripts on a

Re: RFC: CForms + Dojo: the way forward

2006-10-09 Thread Jeroen Reijn
Hi all, hepabolu wrote: Jeremy Quinn said the following on 6/10/06 16:42: Hi All We had an informal group discussion on Tuesday at the Hackathon about CForms. The purpose of the discussion was to find a consensus on the direction to take CForms, so that everybody who would like to work on it

AW: RFC: CForms + Dojo: the way forward

2006-10-09 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi, I am following this discussion since the beginning. There is one thing I don't quite understand. I had a lot of problems with dojo, because it does a lot of caching on its own. If we package and compress the scripts on a "per-form-basis" we get tons of different compressed js-files with lot

Re: [HEADS-UP] Cocoon 2.2 and java 1.5 revisited.

2006-10-09 Thread Antonio Gallardo
Ralph Goers escribió: 1. I don't see the point. There was a -1 that is unlikely to be changed. I am providing more reasons as brain food. I think people can change his mind over the time when more facts arises. 2. Since we will be distributing binaries with Maven - I would think that as long