[jira] Updated: (COCOON-1663) Release 2.1.8

2005-10-27 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz (JIRA)
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COCOON-1663?page=all ] Bertrand Delacretaz updated COCOON-1663: Comment: was deleted Release 2.1.8 - Key: COCOON-1663 URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COCOON-1663

[jira] Commented: (COCOON-1663) Release 2.1.8

2005-10-27 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz (JIRA)
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COCOON-1663?page=comments#action_12356092 ] Bertrand Delacretaz commented on COCOON-1663: - To mark an issue as blocking for the 2.1.8 release, use the links function of the blocking issue. Release 2.1.8

COCOON-1663 for 2.1.8 blocking issues (was: [Vote] Releasing 2.1.8)

2005-10-27 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 27 oct. 05, à 16:42, Andrew Savory a écrit : ...-1 for tomorrow: just got bitten again by this bug: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COCOON-1594 I have created http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COCOON-1663 to list issues which we consider blocking for the release, and added

Re: [jira] Created: (COCOON-1663) Release 2.1.8

2005-10-27 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 27 oct. 05, à 16:55, Vadim Gritsenko a écrit : IIUC that's not the Jira way to do it... Am I right? Pier? :) It would work, though ;-) I'm open to other suggestions for sure, if people who know jira better want to do it then go ahead, I won't mind! The point is: managing these things in

Re: Please choose your bugs...

2005-10-27 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 27 oct. 05, à 20:58, Pier Fumagalli a écrit : ...I still have to think slightly about how to do release management... Yes, and thanks for setting this up in jira! -Bertrand

Re: [Vote] Releasing 2.1.8

2005-10-27 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 27 oct. 05, à 08:35, Carsten Ziegeler a écrit : So please cast your votes for [ ] Release tomorrow, 27th of October [+1 ] Release next friday, 4th of November Things are still happening re. testing and docs, so the release should be a better one in a week. -Bertrand

Re: [HEADS-UP] Testers wanted for the upcoming Cocoon 2.1.8

2005-10-26 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 25 oct. 05, à 01:29, Torsten Curdt a écrit : ...The javaflow OJB example gives a PersistenceBrokerException Used ConnectionManager instance could not obtain a connection... These database issues were fixed yesterday by Sylvain (thanks!), the demos were all trying to run hsqldb on the same

Re: [HEADS-UP] Testers wanted for the upcoming Cocoon 2.1.8

2005-10-26 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 25 oct. 05, à 12:14, Pier Fumagalli a écrit : On 25 Oct 2005, at 10:08, Jeroen Reijn wrote: - CAPTCHA validation sample is does not make sense. There is no string shown on the right. http://cocoon.zones.apache.org/demos/21branch/samples/blocks/forms/ captcha/ Uh... That's a 500: HTTP

[jira] Commented: (COCOON-1661) Portal Sample broken : SQLException

2005-10-26 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz (JIRA)
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COCOON-1661?page=comments#action_12355954 ] Bertrand Delacretaz commented on COCOON-1661: - It works for me at http://cocoon.zones.apache.org/demos/21branch/samples/blocks/portal/portal which runs

Re: samples/blocks/portal/portal is not working (Transfer corrupted)

2005-10-25 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 25 oct. 05, à 10:52, Carsten Ziegeler a écrit : ...Can someone please have a look at this. It seems that the db is not running. Could it be because we have several Cocoon versions now running and both starting the hsqldb?.. It's probably this, I didn't do anything special to have the

Re: [RT] Making the buzz

2005-10-25 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 25 oct. 05, à 10:33, Sylvain Wallez a écrit : ...I think that, along with pinging the Ajaxian guys (which I will do), we should rewrite our home page to make more apparent Cocoon's unique abilities in the changing world of webapp development +1, and it would be good to make it easy to

Re: Closed but unresolved issues

2005-10-25 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 25 oct. 05, à 08:29, Reinhard Poetz a écrit : We have 79 closed but unresolved issues in Jira. This is a problem as they show up in all queries (eg the project page) and gives a wrong picture of open issues. Is there any faster possibility to change this but to reopen every issue, change

Re: [RT] Making the buzz

2005-10-25 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 25 oct. 05, à 11:40, Ross Gardler a écrit : Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: Le 25 oct. 05, à 10:33, Sylvain Wallez a écrit : ...I think that, along with pinging the Ajaxian guys (which I will do), we should rewrite our home page to make more apparent Cocoon's unique abilities in the changing

Re: [RT] Rules for adding blocks and functionality?

2005-10-24 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 24 oct. 05, à 06:50, Niclas Hedhman a écrit : I would like to propose; 1. Make Apache Cocoon 3.0 into the slim down, no frills, no blocks, no nothing, thing that has been discussed recently... Agreed, and even start this with 2.2, IIUC as soon as mavenizaion is finished, blocks

Re: [RT] Rules for adding blocks and functionality?

2005-10-24 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 23 oct. 05, à 21:48, Andrew Savory a écrit : ...On 23 Oct 2005, at 19:20, Daniel Fagerstrom wrote: Just because of its importance, you agree that it is important don't you ;) we should follow our usual and well proven development patterns which involves community involvement. FWIW,

Re: JIRA: let me know your Jira user names...

2005-10-24 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 24 oct. 05, à 18:34, Pier Fumagalli a écrit : ...let me know your preferred Jira accounts.. Either [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED], whatever's most convenient for you. -Bertrand

Re: release, trunk and branch now run on cocoon.zone

2005-10-24 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 24 oct. 05, à 13:14, hepabolu a écrit : ...Great idea and thanks for the work, but there are currently two issues: - core documentation on http://cocoon.zones.apache.org/demos/21branch/samples/ results in an error: java.io.FileNotFoundException:

Re: [2.1.8 release] all htmlunit tests pass on macosx, how about other platforms?

2005-10-24 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 20 oct. 05, à 10:54, Bertrand Delacretaz a écrit : I have fixed a few things so that all htmlunit-tests pass here (JDK 1.4.2, macosx 10.3.8). It would be cool if people could run these tests on other platforms and report results here... FWIW, I've received a success report off-list

Re: [IMP] Code freeze starts tonight

2005-10-24 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 24 oct. 05, à 21:24, Sylvain Wallez a écrit : ..We should also make an annouce that this is the testing week and invite people to checkout the SVN and test. Otherwise, people will just hold their breath and wait for the release to happen. I can do it if you want... If you do, please

Re: release, trunk and branch now run on cocoon.zone (was: Updating Cocoon Version in zone)

2005-10-22 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 22 oct. 05, à 06:37, David Crossley a écrit : ...I am just finishing off storing all our configuration at forrest.zones.a.o into our SVN. That has made it so much easier to collaboratively work on things and to manage it. Also if damage ever happens then we have reliable sources. I will

Re: release, trunk and branch now run on cocoon.zone (was: Updating Cocoon Version in zone)

2005-10-22 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 22 oct. 05, à 08:31, David Crossley a écrit : (there are links to these on http://cocoon.zones.apache.org/) The two new demos are down ... 502 Bad Gateway The proxy server received an invalid response from an upstream server. Yes, I just restarted them as the svn up hadn't worked, I

Re: Super-easy SQL/Form integration for simple CRUD applications

2005-10-22 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 21 oct. 05, à 23:31, Sylvain Wallez a écrit : ...The live demo should be available soon at http://cocoon.zones.apache.org/demos/trunk/samples/blocks/forms/sql/ The live demos have been updated but that page gives an error, as does

Re: forrest config for exporting daisy docs

2005-10-22 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 21 oct. 05, à 22:06, Upayavira a écrit : ...And a robots.txt on Daisy... I've added the following at http://cocoon.zones.apache.org/robots.txt User-agent: * Disallow: /* I think that's what we want, there's nothing to index on that server, right? -Bertrand

Re: Just one set of brokenlinks left - API docs

2005-10-22 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 22 oct. 05, à 13:48, Ross Gardler a écrit : We've pretty much cleared out all the broken links in the docs in Daisy. There's just one page left causing a problem: http://cocoon.zones.apache.org/daisy/legacydocs/status/plan/ documentation/review-sitemap-docs.html This page has links

Re: [docs] test publish from daisy

2005-10-21 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 21 oct. 05, à 06:09, David Crossley a écrit : ...It would have a lot easier to do this documentation movement for the 2.2 release Yes - I cannot help on this ATM, but it looks like a lot of energy which might bring more results if targeted to 2.2. -Bertrand

Re: Updating Cocoon Version in zone

2005-10-21 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 21 oct. 05, à 14:50, Carsten Ziegeler a écrit : Can someone update our Cocoon demo version in our cocoon zone to the version of 2.1.x of today (or tonight)? So we will then showcase our release candidate for next week and people might directly test against it without installing Cocoon

release, trunk and branch now run on cocoon.zone (was: Updating Cocoon Version in zone)

2005-10-21 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 21 oct. 05, à 14:50, Carsten Ziegeler a écrit : Can someone update our Cocoon demo version in our cocoon zone to the version of 2.1.x of today (or tonight)?... Done, and I took the opportunity to activate all three demos that were originally planned: 1)

Re: [Docs] Karma Request

2005-10-20 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 20 oct. 05, à 09:57, David Crossley a écrit : I have created a Daisy account (crossley). Would someone please add me to the doc-editors group. Done. -Bertrand

Re: Can anyone fix these problems before 2.1.8 release,please?

2005-10-20 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 20 oct. 05, à 09:07, roy huang a écrit : Hi,all: 1.in current svn,start cocoon in win32 and access it will generate such exception: Message: Configuration element FileSystem not found in SearchIndex. FWIW, I've just tested the BRANCH_2_1_X code, svn up, full rebuild, no local.* files,

[2.1.8 release] all htmlunit tests pass on macosx, how about other platforms?

2005-10-20 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
I have fixed a few things so that all htmlunit-tests pass here (JDK 1.4.2, macosx 10.3.8). It would be cool if people could run these tests on other platforms and report results here. To run them use ./build.sh htmlunit-tests and follow the instructions. -Bertrand

Re: [Docs] Karma Request

2005-10-20 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 20 oct. 05, à 10:47, Upayavira a écrit : ...Actually, whenever a committer asks for Karma, we should give them doc-editor and doc-committer karma straight away. I've done that for David... ok - I didn't do that, as David didn't ask for it. But you're right. -Bertrand

JCRSourceTestCase fails (was: Can anyone fix these problems before 2.1.8...)

2005-10-20 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 20 oct. 05, à 10:22, Bertrand Delacretaz a écrit : Le 20 oct. 05, à 09:07, roy huang a écrit : Hi,all: 1.in current svn,start cocoon in win32 and access it will generate such exception: Message: Configuration element FileSystem not found in SearchIndex. FWIW, I've just tested

Re: REQ Fixing really old bugs

2005-10-19 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 19 oct. 05, à 05:20, Antonio Gallardo a écrit : ...Closing the open bugs is like deleting this knowledge database. Bugzilla is showing how we cares about the user reports. IMHO, the list should be a TODO list for the community... Note that issues don't necessarily have to stay closed, we

Re: [VOTE] Move to Jira (Was: Re: Jira or Bugzilla...)

2005-10-19 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 13 oct. 05, à 10:42, Pier Fumagalli a écrit : ...I was waiting for a closure on the REQ Fixing really old bugs thread before proposing a timeline, it definitely makes sense to wait for the cleanup to be complete Peter's idea of doing the cleanup in Jira makes a lot of sense [1], I

Re: [M10N] cocoon-core-archetype

2005-10-19 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 19 oct. 05, à 01:21, Jorg Heymans a écrit : ...I've created an archetype that sets up a working cocoon core webapplication without any blocks... Awesome! I don't have time to play with this right now but I can't wait... ...PS should i put the archetype in the repository somewhere? Or

Re: Refreshing continuations in long-running pages

2005-10-19 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 19 oct. 05, à 10:31, Sylvain Wallez a écrit : ...In map:call continuation=.../, the flow engine checks if cocoon-flow-refresh exists:.. ...WDYT? Sounds good, but maybe cocoon-continuation-refresh says more about what the parameter means. -Bertrand, nitpicking ;-)

Re: Vote result for docs [was: [Vote] Doc format for release]

2005-10-19 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 19 oct. 05, à 12:18, Ross Gardler a écrit : ...Are we ready to delete everything from the site repo? Perhaps move it to site/forrest-0.7?... But if you do this it would be published on the site, not? Then better move it to whiteboard and delete it once the new site is up and tested.

Re: [VOTE] Move to Jira (Was: Re: Jira or Bugzilla...)

2005-10-19 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 19 oct. 05, à 19:45, Pier Fumagalli a écrit : ...There is a flag Closed for bug entry on Bugzilla, which is settable on a per-product basis, I think that will prevent anyone to post new bugs, but we can't put in a MOVED_TO_JIRA state (that requires changes in the database, AFAIK), so

Re: [Vote] Packaging of docs

2005-10-19 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 19 oct. 05, à 19:27, Carsten Ziegeler a écrit : Ok, I think it's safer to just vote on this as well - again the majority wins. We already agreed on using just HTML for the docs. Please cast your votes for: a) Include the docs in the distribution -0 b) Provide a separate docs package

Re: REQ Fixing really old bugs

2005-10-17 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 15 oct. 05, à 19:00, Antonio Gallardo a écrit : ...If users got the time to report the bugs, I think at least we owe them a real bug review. Just request more info if needed. WDYT? I think that issues are piling up in bugzilla and we obviously don't have the manpower to take care of

Re: [Vote] Status file per block

2005-10-17 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 16 oct. 05, à 17:17, Carsten Ziegeler a écrit : Starting with 2.2 we want to have different release cycles etc. for each block so I think it's time to split up the status.xml file and create a file for each block... +1 -Bertrand

Re: [Vote] Doc format for release

2005-10-17 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 17 oct. 05, à 12:00, Upayavira a écrit : ...2. HTML Files. PDF can go on website. Otherwise it adds 5Mb to the download.. Same here, and I think the PDF of that release should not be overwritten with the next release, it should stay archived. Which means it's maybe better to put the PDF

[VOTE RESULTS] new committer: Max Pfingsthorn

2005-10-14 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 11 oct. 05, à 08:28, Bertrand Delacretaz a écrit : ...So I have the pleasure of proposing Max as our new committer!... Congratulations Max, you are elected with 21 binding +1s 1 non-binding +1 one -0 Welcome aboard - as you already have an ASF account you should get full commit access

Re: [VOTE] Move to Jira (Was: Re: Jira or Bugzilla...)

2005-10-14 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 13 oct. 05, à 23:41, Pier Fumagalli a écrit : ...Regarding the bugs themselves, I can write a simple script closing all moved bugs with a link to the new bug in Jira as a comment (of course, after the data-transfer is complete).. Sounds good, and combined with the search by bugzilla issue

[VOTE] bugzilla issues cleanup

2005-10-14 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
After our recent discussions (http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=11289532981r=1w=2), I suggest cleaning up our bugzilla issues, with the help of those who entered them, as outlined below. As this impacts our user's perception and the handling of our all-important issues list, I'd like to

Re: [VOTE] Move to Jira (Was: Re: Jira or Bugzilla...)

2005-10-14 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 14 oct. 05, à 15:46, Peter Hunsberger a écrit : Following this thread, I wonder if if might not work well to combine the move to Jira with the so called bug amnesty? You'd e-mail everyone with an open bug that it was being moved to the new system and if they where still interested in

Re: [VOTE] Move to Jira (Was: Re: Jira or Bugzilla...)

2005-10-14 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 14 oct. 05, à 16:01, Bertrand Delacretaz a écrit : ...I don't know if jira is as good as bugzilla for mass operations (i.e. set all open issues which were entered before Sept 1st to LATER / P5), I'll check as soon as it is back... I've checked - there are nice bulk operations

Re: Website Changes

2005-10-14 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 14 oct. 05, à 18:36, Vadim Gritsenko a écrit : ... * Loose local changes to: ... mirror.html (Bertrand?) It wasn't me, but the locally modified version was correct - I have committed the changes. -Bertrand

Re: REQ access to cocoon.zones.apache.org

2005-10-14 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 14 oct. 05, à 21:59, hepabolu a écrit : Can someone give me access to the cocoon.zones.apache.org? I thought I had access, but none of the usual passwords work Account helma created, in group daisy. Also done chmod -R g+w /home/daisy/daisy-1.4-M1 so that daisy group members can write

Re: [VOTE] Move to Jira (Was: Re: Jira or Bugzilla...)

2005-10-13 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 11 oct. 05, à 12:43, Pier Fumagalli a écrit : Ok, there we go, here's the vote... [ ] +1 Yes please, let's move all our bugs to Jira... +1 BUT - I'm going to start a vote about http://wiki.apache.org/cocoon/BugzillaIssuesCleanup, to do a big cleanup in the next two weeks, so it would

Re: [VOTE] Move to Jira (Was: Re: Jira or Bugzilla...)

2005-10-13 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 13 oct. 05, à 10:42, Pier Fumagalli a écrit : ...In the meantime, I'm going to set-up Jira with statuses and workflows. And after the cleanup is done, we can move all outstanding issues over... Cool, thanks. -Bertrand

Re: [VOTE] Move to Jira (Was: Re: Jira or Bugzilla...)

2005-10-13 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 13 oct. 05, à 16:51, Vadim Gritsenko a écrit : Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: Le 13 oct. 05, à 10:42, Pier Fumagalli a écrit : ...In the meantime, I'm going to set-up Jira with statuses and workflows. And after the cleanup is done, we can move all outstanding issues over... Shouldn't we

Re: [VOTE] Move to Jira (Was: Re: Jira or Bugzilla...)

2005-10-13 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 13 oct. 05, à 22:53, Joerg Heinicke a écrit : ...You introduce another problem with this process: Current owners got sent a bugzilla mail about closure of their bug. If they want to reopen it later they don't know where to do it... There must be a way to find issues in jira later based on

javadocs navigation (was: [RT] Is Cocoon Obsolete?)

2005-10-12 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 12 oct. 05, à 05:16, Stefano Mazzocchi a écrit : ...I think a better, leaner, cleaner javadoc would go a *LNG* way to make things easier... I was thinking about that recently - does anyone know a tool for tag-based navigation of javadocs? A better *navigation* of the javadocs, like

Re: [VOTE] new committer: Max Pfingsthorn

2005-10-12 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 12 oct. 05, à 08:13, David Crossley a écrit : Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: Several of us share the thought that Max is the perfect example of a GSoC success: apart from great technical work, he's quickly found his place in our community, with regular contributions in code and on the lists

Re: javadocs navigation (was: [RT] Is Cocoon Obsolete?)

2005-10-12 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 12 oct. 05, à 09:32, Max Pfingsthorn a écrit : ...Can't you use the refdoc stuff for that? If it's not ready, which I guess it isn't from the STATUS at http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/cocoon/gsoc/rgraham/refdoc/STATUS, I could take it from where Robert left it... It's not far from being

Re: FYI: 2.2 samples pages reorganized

2005-10-12 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 11 oct. 05, à 15:36, hepabolu a écrit : ...Just had a quick look and some things came to mind: - as Carsten pointed out, the link to all samples is very unobtrusive... Fixed, you cannot miss the link anymore. - I really feel the need for a back link on each overview page or maybe the

Re: REQ Fixing really old bugs

2005-10-12 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 11 oct. 05, à 10:25, hepabolu a écrit : Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: How about doing a bug amnesty as follows? As already said by others, I too am not fond of a bug amnesty ...I know this means a lot of work, and takes certainly a lot more effort than simply expire, but it really

Re: REQ Fixing really old bugs

2005-10-12 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 12 oct. 05, à 13:06, Torsten Curdt a écrit : Instead of waiting for this *not* to happen (and we know it's not going to happen) I'd say - let's ask the people whether those old bugs still apply... I like the idea - how do you suggest asking? We could add a comment to each open issue with

Re: REQ Fixing really old bugs

2005-10-12 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 12 oct. 05, à 14:08, hepabolu a écrit : Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: Le 12 oct. 05, à 13:06, Torsten Curdt a écrit : Instead of waiting for this *not* to happen (and we know it's not going to happen) I'd say - let's ask the people whether those old bugs still apply... I like the idea - how

Re: FYI: 2.2 samples pages reorganized

2005-10-12 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 12 oct. 05, à 14:35, Vadim Gritsenko a écrit : Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: Note also that the aim is to remove as many exotic blocks as possible from 2.2 and move them to contrib, so it shouldn't be that bad in the end. Please, blocks are *already* removed from 2.2, they reside

Re: Roadmap for Cocoon Blocks

2005-10-12 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 12 oct. 05, à 14:33, Reinhard Poetz a écrit : ...I think a build/deployment system is a must as soon as we reach the release candidate phase of 2.2. Currently the best bet is M2. Do you see any alternatives that could be implemented faster?... IIUC we're currently talking of a first

Re: REQ Fixing really old bugs

2005-10-12 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 12 oct. 05, à 15:34, hepabolu a écrit : ...Fine by me, but in the wiki page you say something along the lines if you don't respond, the state stays WONTFIX, which in effect means you have to mark all bugs for WONTFIX... Yes, using the change several bugs at once means we have to set all

Re: FYI: 2.2 samples pages reorganized

2005-10-12 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 12 oct. 05, à 15:36, Vadim Gritsenko a écrit : ...By the time m2 is properly done, we should remove svn externals and cut bocks loose :-) and treat them as separate projects... Ok, fine then, let's wait for this - there's no hurry but 2.2 should give a clear signal that we want to travel

Re: REQ Fixing really old bugs

2005-10-12 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 12 oct. 05, à 15:39, Bertrand Delacretaz a écrit : Le 12 oct. 05, à 15:34, hepabolu a écrit : ...Fine by me, but in the wiki page you say something along the lines if you don't respond, the state stays WONTFIX, which in effect means you have to mark all bugs for WONTFIX... Yes, using

Re: [OT] MacOS/X Java 1.5

2005-10-12 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 12 oct. 05, à 16:15, Pier Fumagalli a écrit : For those of you who might not have noticed it (and who are using Mac OS/X), the ADC http://developer.apple.com/ just posted to everyone the J2SE 5.0 Release 3 Developer Preview 2... Thanks for the info - I hope the install does not wipe out

Re: REQ Fixing really old bugs

2005-10-12 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 12 oct. 05, à 16:53, Vadim Gritsenko a écrit : What is the primary goal - do you want simply to get rid of issues or you want to make Cocoon better?... My goal is to prioritize the issues, find out among these 300 those who are worth working on. Without having to spend lonely hours on

Re: REQ Fixing really old bugs

2005-10-12 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 12 oct. 05, à 17:05, Joerg Heinicke a écrit : ...Don't we have the votes feature of bugzilla for prioritizing the issues?... We might, but an active and traceable action from the bug reporters/CC people is more useful I think. -Bertrand

Re: [GT2005] Presentations and Audio Now Available

2005-10-11 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 10 oct. 05, à 23:04, Agile Jack a écrit : ...Thanks to Arje and others from Hippo for a well-run event, and to the presenters for great content... And big thanks to you for the recordings and quick publishing, this adds a lot of value to the event! -Bertrand

Re: Jira or Bugzilla...

2005-10-11 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 11 oct. 05, à 00:59, Pier Fumagalli a écrit : ...So, who is against switching to Jira?... I'm all for it, especially if you do the work ;-) Thanks for driving this. -Bertrand

[VOTE] new committer: Max Pfingsthorn

2005-10-11 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Dear community, Several of us share the thought that Max is the perfect example of a GSoC success: apart from great technical work, he's quickly found his place in our community, with regular contributions in code and on the lists. His presentation at last week's GT has shown a high level

Re: [Docs] Articles on Cocoon

2005-10-11 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 11 oct. 05, à 09:42, hepabolu a écrit : ...Requests: - are there more people willing to contribute articles that could fit this series?.. I could write one on Cocoon Bricks, a modern Cocoon example application. (I'm thinking of removing the -cms from the name when bricks moves to the

Re: svn commit: r312725 - in /cocoon/blocks/crails: ./ trunk/ trunk/WEB-INF/ trunk/java/ trunk/java/org/ trunk/java/org/apache/ trunk/java/org/apache/cocoon/ trunk/java/org/apache/cocoon/controller/ t

2005-10-11 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 10 oct. 05, à 23:10, Berin Loritsch a écrit : Upayavira wrote: ...https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/cocoon/whiteboard/ Create yourself a directory there. Will do. FYI there's a trick to easily include blocks from the whiteboard in the 2.2 build, you can see how it's done in

Re: Roadmap for Cocoon Blocks

2005-10-11 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 11 oct. 05, à 07:31, Reinhard Poetz a écrit : ...- Cocoon 2.2 will not use OSGi but will support blocks as far as possible:... ...- Cocoon 3.0 will use OSGi -- shielding classloader and hot plugablillity... ...WDOT? +1 to the plan. Just one small nitpicking comment, we should say 3.0

Re: Classloading in blocks [was; Binaries for next releases]

2005-10-10 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 9 oct. 05, à 18:33, Reinhard Poetz a écrit : ...So what do others think about this roadmap?... Would you mind re-posting this roadmap question with a more prominent subject line? I'm afraid people will miss it due to the more or less obscure topic being discussed here ;-) -Bertrand

Re: [HEADS-UP] IRC support? (was: Re: [RT] seven good reasons to close down users@cocoon.apache.org)

2005-10-10 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 9 oct. 05, à 00:39, Antonio Gallardo a écrit : ...I though we were against providing IRC support... I don't think we can be against someone giving answers there - but it would be cool, when people find solutions via IRC (or any other media ), to post them on the lists or on the wiki.

2.2 samples reorganization (was: [RT] contrib directory)

2005-10-10 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 10 oct. 05, à 11:11, Jeremy Quinn a écrit : ...We also talked about showing-off the 'sexy' stuff up front . eg. samples and docs highlighting the newest and best prominent news items on the front page pointing to new cool stuff etc... Have you seen how the

Re: add --noconfig as a default ant option in build.sh?

2005-10-10 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 6 oct. 05, à 11:52, Bertrand Delacretaz a écrit : Sandor Spruit suggests this, see http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=xml-cocoon-usersm=112858673106600w=2 done for build.sh in trunk and BRANCH_2_1_X I haven't changed the windows build scripts as I cannot test them, if someone can do

Re: [GT2005] Cocoon GetTogether 2005 is over... But wait! There's more!

2005-10-10 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 10 oct. 05, à 12:25, Andrew Savory a écrit : ...And a big thank you to Arjé and everyone at Hippo for such superb organisation and all the hard work you put in - it was appreciated!... BIG +1 -Bertrand

Re: add --noconfig as a default ant option in build.sh?

2005-10-10 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 10 oct. 05, à 12:28, Carsten Ziegeler a écrit : ...I just added servlet being the default parameter for the cocoon script. As I can't test this on unix right now, I only changed the windows scripts...so if someone wants to have a look at it... :) done, servlet is now the default action for

Re: [HEADS-UP] IRC support?

2005-10-10 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 10 oct. 05, à 12:11, Jorg Heymans a écrit : I suggested logging the IRC channel a while ago... ...If we could get it to log, and we include the logs somewhere searchable (daisy, wiki ...) that'ld be good enough already You'd get a *lot* of noise if you simply log, so I'm not

Re: FYI: 2.2 samples pages reorganized

2005-10-10 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 10 oct. 05, à 13:59, Carsten Ziegeler a écrit : ...I think it's a good idea to cleanup the page. But :) it raises two questions for me: a) How do I get to the other samples? I don't see any link. There should be a link to all samples at the top right. ...b) Which blocks do we feature on

Re: FYI: 2.2 samples pages reorganized

2005-10-10 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 10 oct. 05, à 14:16, Carsten Ziegeler a écrit : Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: There should be a link to all samples at the top right. Oh, right, yes it's there - I overlooked it the first time. Perhaps it should be a little bit more prominent? right, I'll improve it when I find some time

Re: REQ Fixing really old bugs

2005-10-10 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 10 oct. 05, à 16:07, hepabolu a écrit : ...while looking at Bugzilla I noticed some open bugs entered as far back as 2002. Could someone have a look and do _something_ about it? It's not a good sign that bugs are open thatlong... I don't think we'll ever get there, my last count says we

Re: [QVote] Configurable default for sitemap reloading

2005-10-10 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 10 oct. 05, à 20:43, Carsten Ziegeler a écrit : ...And users will feel happy, they will say: Look, in 2.2 you can turn off all the reloading for production with one simple switch. Isn't this great? :) +1, this is a small thing and it can be reassuring for people. -Bertrand

Re: REQ Fixing really old bugs

2005-10-10 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 10 oct. 05, à 20:32, Geert Josten a écrit : How about doing a bug amnesty as follows? Good idea. Hasn't this been done before with some of the bugs?... some, yes, but not on a large scale, which I think we need now. -Bertrand

Re: [SHRT] Cocoon on Rails Application Component Kernel (CRACK)

2005-10-08 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 7 oct. 05, à 17:09, Berin Loritsch a écrit : ...As to the sample apps--I agree to a point. If you don't have the convention to build the sample app with, how is the potential user going to know what they are looking at? In other words what are they going to walk away with when the look

Re: SVN Address

2005-10-08 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 7 oct. 05, à 20:47, JD Daniels a écrit : ...Now it has occured to me, that I can't find the svn address to check out the HEAD... You're probably looking for http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/cocoon/ -Bertrand

Re: Binaries for next releases

2005-10-08 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 8 oct. 05, à 19:43, Reinhard Poetz a écrit : ...For 2.1 I'm not sure if it's worth the effort. IMHO We should focus on 2.2 and make it stable as soon as possible Yes, let's make as little changes as possible to 2.1 and move on. -Bertrand

FYI: 2.2 samples pages reorganized

2005-10-07 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
I've just committed the changes that we started yesterday at the Hackathon, the first page of samples now shows links to a minimum number of samples, the rest being on a different page. I'd appreciate it if people could give it a try, I haven't had time to check all the samples yet. All

[RT] contrib directory

2005-10-07 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
We talked about that this morning with Jeremy at the GT: how about creating a contrib directory in our repository, for stuff that we want to stay available, without being directly tied to our releases. This could contain: -example apps like bricks-cms -blocks that we'd like to remove from 2.2

Re: [RT] seven good reasons to close down users@cocoon.apache.org

2005-10-06 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 6 oct. 05, à 10:04, Torsten Curdt a écrit : ...Let's better have a few more developer subscribed to users again Yes, after this discussion I think it's good enough - and I like the idea of filtering both lists to the same folder in my mail client, so as not to overlook user's

add --noconfig as a default ant option in build.sh?

2005-10-06 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Sandor Spruit suggests this, see http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=xml-cocoon-usersm=112858673106600w=2 Any objections to make this the default when ant is called from build.sh? If not I'll add it to the branch and trunk builds. What the option does for ant is: --noconfig

[VOTE] snapshot release of the bricks-cms example app

2005-10-06 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
I'd like to put a snapshot of the bricks-cms [1] example on our download servers, so that people can get it without requiring an SVN client. It is not a formal release, but I'd like to have the community's approval before doing it. Please cast your votes, here's my own: +1 -Bertrand [1]

[GT] please add your PGP key there

2005-10-05 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Those of you coming to the Hackathon or GT, please add your PGP key to http://wiki.apache.org/cocoon/CocoonGetTogetherPGP if you want to sign keys. We'll print that page at some point to make signing easier. -Bertrand

Re: Release 2.2alpha1 just before GT?

2005-10-05 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 5 oct. 05, à 09:55, Upayavira a écrit : So, I propose to start to release 2.2alpha 1 at 3pm CET (GMT+2). +1 -Bertrand

Re: [vote] Ross Gardler as a new Cocoon committer

2005-10-05 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 5 oct. 05, à 10:43, Daniel Fagerstrom a écrit : ...Please cast you votes. Enthusiastic +1, welcome Ross! -Bertrand

Re: including Zip Source within Cocoon

2005-10-04 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 4 oct. 05, à 09:21, Michael Wechner a écrit : ...one could also imagine an OpenDocument block where the ZipSource would be part of it. If people like it and other usecases would show up, then we could move it to the core at some later stage. Makes sense?.. IMHO, yes if the block includes

Re: [GT2005] Buglisting?

2005-10-04 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 4 oct. 05, à 10:35, Arje Cahn a écrit : ...Should we do the bugtable again at the hackaton? And is someone willing to printout the bugreports or should I arrange that? (Bertrand...? I know you're busy..) I am, won't have time to do it before I leave, but if there's a printer there we'll

jdk 1.3: thanks (was: [RT] Is Cocoon Obsolete?)

2005-10-04 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 3 oct. 05, à 21:30, Antonio Gallardo a écrit : ...I WASTED not only my last weekend, but a lot of time keeping the f*** java 1.3 compatibility... I agree about the *** but anyway, THANKS Antonio for this work. Keeping 1.3 compatibility for the 2.1.x branch has been a community decision

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