Sebastien Arbogast wrote:
I don't mean the docs have to be made up of small chunks, but it must
be possible to do useful work on them in small amounts of time (which
is perfectly possible with the 2.2 docs system).
Let's think in terms of network architecture and layers. I personally
think that wh
Le 14 avr. 05, à 13:29, Sebastien Arbogast a écrit :
...When you want to go from one side of the river to the other side,
you
can dive and swim, or you can quickly build a pirogue that will be
more efficient, that will be able to carry many more people and scare
far less
Ok, let's see this pir
> I don't mean the docs have to be made up of small chunks, but it must
> be possible to do useful work on them in small amounts of time (which
> is perfectly possible with the 2.2 docs system).
Let's think in terms of network architecture and layers. I personally
think that what Reinhard and Upay
Le 14 avr. 05, à 07:47, Sebastien Arbogast a écrit :
So a crucial point is that any docs effort/tool/whatever has to allow
us to work in small increments and be useful, without leaving
half-finished work behind us. Something requiring big stretches of
continuous work is useless ATM.
And still... no
> So a crucial point is that any docs effort/tool/whatever has to allow
> us to work in small increments and be useful, without leaving
> half-finished work behind us. Something requiring big stretches of
> continuous work is useless ATM.
And still... now I can realize how learning how to use a po
Le 13 avr. 05, à 07:10, Sebastien Arbogast a écrit :
...FTR, I should precise that right now I'm working on a big project
using Cocoon as its core XML server and it's my first project using
Cocoon, which implies that
-> I won't be able to spend my whole days on this...
And this is a key point: AFAI
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> > Sounds great. At some point, we've got to come up with a
> list of the
> > sort o
> Sounds great. At some point, we've got to come up with a list of the
> sort of tutorials and walk-throughs we want, so that we can have
> comprehensive coverage. In the meantime, I'd say just go ahead and write it!
or let's try to see if it can't be part of sort of a bigger
complete tutoria
Linden H van der (MI) wrote:
Hi,
sorry I've been too busy lately to participate in anything I've promised
over time. It's not that I don't want to do it any more, just time...
well, you know.
Reading this thread, something clicked as I've been working on a simple
website using Cocoon with simple XM
> I could try and write down the process I've gone through and using that
> as a base for a tutorial for "MyFirstCocoonWebApp". I know I sometimes
> work backwards (i.e. develop first, think later ;-)), so things might be
> out of (efficient) order.
>
> The website I'm referring to is currently on
Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
Le 13 avr. 05, Ã 10:30, Upayavira a Ãcrit :
...2) What myself and Reinhard have conceived is a container for ALL
docs. We need first of all to bring the reference docs across, and to
scrap a lot of the crud that has built up over the years. That, I
hope, will establish
nal Message-
> From: Upayavira [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> To: dev@cocoon.apache.org
> Subject: Re: "Apache Cocoon in Action" suggestion and call
> for opinions
>
>
> Sebastien,
>
> I know Reinhard has said a lot
Le 13 avr. 05, à 10:30, Upayavira a écrit :
...2) What myself and Reinhard have conceived is a container for ALL
docs. We need first of all to bring the reference docs across, and to
scrap a lot of the crud that has built up over the years. That, I
hope, will establish a foundation upon which we
Sebastien,
I know Reinhard has said a lot already. I just wanted to make a few
comments.
1) Thanks for coming over to the dev list. It is the best place for
these discussions as all developers will be reading what it said.
2) What myself and Reinhard have conceived is a container for ALL docs.
On Wed, 2005-04-13 at 09:37 +0200, Reinhard Poetz wrote:
> Sebastien Arbogast wrote:
> > I don't know how forrest works yet but is it possible to have a global
> > PDF for a whole part of documentation. For example is it possible to
> > generate automatically a PDF book containing all the Cocoon
>
Sebastien Arbogast wrote:
I don't know how forrest works yet but is it possible to have a global
PDF for a whole part of documentation. For example is it possible to
generate automatically a PDF book containing all the Cocoon
documentation in one file ?
yes it is, but I haven't figured it out yet m
I don't know how forrest works yet but is it possible to have a global
PDF for a whole part of documentation. For example is it possible to
generate automatically a PDF book containing all the Cocoon
documentation in one file ?
On 4/13/05, Reinhard Poetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Sebastien Arbo
Sebastien Arbogast wrote:
So the new 2.2 documentation base is in whiteboard or trunk ?
in trunk:
http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/cocoon/trunk/src/documentation
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{Software Engineering, Open Source, Web Applications, Apache Coc
Ok it's alright I just checked your update on the wiki. Pfio it's
late here in montreal, maybe I should go to bed... ;o)
On 4/13/05, Sebastien Arbogast <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> So the new 2.2 documentation base is in whiteboard or trunk ?
>
> On 4/13/05, Reinhard Poetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
So the new 2.2 documentation base is in whiteboard or trunk ?
On 4/13/05, Reinhard Poetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Sebastien Arbogast wrote:
> > Just to precise a little point that is not explicitly precised in the wiki.
> > To download the sources of Cocoon 2.2, I do a checkout on this URL :
>
Sebastien Arbogast wrote:
Just to precise a little point that is not explicitly precised in the wiki.
To download the sources of Cocoon 2.2, I do a checkout on this URL :
http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/cocoon/trunk/ ?
that's correct (will add it to the wiki)
Or is it in the whiteboard directory at
Just to precise a little point that is not explicitly precised in the wiki.
To download the sources of Cocoon 2.2, I do a checkout on this URL :
http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/cocoon/trunk/ ?
Or is it in the whiteboard directory at top level ?
On 4/13/05, Reinhard Poetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Sebastien Arbogast wrote:
Oh yes I totally agree with that. As a matter of format and technical
infrastructure, it is the best solution and we could just make a new
documentation branch at the top level. What I meant by "in parallel" I
had content progression in mind, just to be sure that new users
Oh yes I totally agree with that. As a matter of format and technical
infrastructure, it is the best solution and we could just make a new
documentation branch at the top level. What I meant by "in parallel" I
had content progression in mind, just to be sure that new users could
see the difference
Sebastien Arbogast wrote:
Why in parallel? Look at http://brutus.apache.org/docs/build/cocoon-2-2/. This
build already contains an improved structure that is similar to yours that
reflects Cocoon 2.2 in a better way than the current 2.1 docs do (although
Upayavira and I discussed this for hours, th
> Why in parallel? Look at http://brutus.apache.org/docs/build/cocoon-2-2/. This
> build already contains an improved structure that is similar to yours that
> reflects Cocoon 2.2 in a better way than the current 2.1 docs do (although
> Upayavira and I discussed this for hours, this doesn't mean th
Sebastien Arbogast wrote:
Moreover this documentation could be written and reviewed in parallel
and tight collaboration with the new Cocoon 2.2 documentation effort
to make sure that the information is accurate and exact and to keep
stuff in sync. And it could be written and reviewed/corrected
pro
Hi,
I may have something to suggest concernig the new documentation effort.
The main problem that I had to face while begining to work with Cocoon
was the enormous gap between the level of the first tutorials I found
on the wiki or other sources like theserverside.com or IBM
DeveloperWorks. I mean
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