Reinhard Pötz wrote:
Borland hasn't trademarked silk but only some variants of it. See
http://tinyurl.com/5bkw9d
Silk was trademarked by a company called mentis:
http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=docstate=pgshps.20.117
The name that we would use is Cocoon Silk. So I tend to think
On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 8:40 AM, Ralph Goers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Reinhard Pötz wrote:
...The name that we would use is Cocoon Silk. So I tend to think that it
isn't a problem
...Trademark or not, when people in software talk about Silk these products
are
what they mean. Using a
Guy, just my 2 cents.
We had this renaming game with CForms IIRC. And it was more confusing
than it helped. I guess that was so long ago that some people don't
remember.
I think Corona is a great name. Everyone uses it. People already know
it by now. Let's officially call it Apache
On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 9:17 AM, Torsten Curdt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...We had this renaming game with CForms IIRC. And it was more confusing than
it helped. I guess that was so long ago that some people don't remember...
I do remember - finding names for products today is the nightmare ;-)
Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 9:17 AM, Torsten Curdt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...We had this renaming game with CForms IIRC. And it was more confusing than
it helped.
yes, it took years until Woody was gone. But the situation was different
because Woody had a large user
On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 9:50 AM, Reinhard Pötz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
just put up all the suggested names for a
majority vote of our committers, and be done with it.
What would be the options that we vote on?
a) keep the name Apache Cocoon Corona
b)
Reinhard Pötz wrote:
What would be the options that we vote on?
a) keep the name Apache Cocoon Corona
b) rename to Apache Cocoon Silk
c) we need to find some other name
Any other options?
I sent a message to legal internal to get their opinion on options a and
b. I suggest waiting for
On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 9:59 AM, Ralph Goers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Reinhard Pötz wrote:
What would be the options that we vote on?
a) keep the name Apache Cocoon Corona
b) rename to Apache Cocoon Silk
c) we need to find some other name
Any other options?
I sent a message to
Torsten Curdt tcurdt at apache.org writes:
I think Corona is a great name. Everyone uses it. People already know
it by now. Let's officially call it Apache Cocoon (Project) Corona.
Everyone will call it Corona anyway. Will that really be a problem?
(Sorry if I missed that thread/post)
Ralph Goers wrote:
Reinhard Pötz wrote:
What would be the options that we vote on?
a) keep the name Apache Cocoon Corona
b) rename to Apache Cocoon Silk
c) we need to find some other name
Any other options?
I sent a message to legal internal to get their opinion on options a and
b. I
On Thu, 2008-07-31 at 09:54 +0200, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 9:50 AM, Reinhard Pötz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
just put up all the suggested names for a
majority vote of our committers, and be done with it.
What would be the options
On Thu, 2008-07-31 at 14:03 +0200, Thorsten Scherler wrote:
On Thu, 2008-07-31 at 09:54 +0200, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 9:50 AM, Reinhard Pötz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
just put up all the suggested names for a
majority vote of
Sorry, I didn't do reply-all. I usually just do reply on all my Apache
email.
Reinhard Pötz wrote:
Ralph Goers wrote:
Reinhard Pötz wrote:
What would be the options that we vote on?
a) keep the name Apache Cocoon Corona
b) rename to Apache Cocoon Silk
c) we need to find some other
Thorsten Scherler wrote:
Just to say another name: ;)
Apache Kokon
which is cocoon in German.
jeje this one is for Antonio:
Apache Capullo
which is cocoon in Spanish (but in Spain it has a slightly double
meaning).
salu2
Should I ask?
I actually like both those names -
On Thu, 2008-07-31 at 07:21 -0700, Ralph Goers wrote:
Thorsten Scherler wrote:
Just to say another name: ;)
Apache Kokon
which is cocoon in German.
jeje this one is for Antonio:
Apache Capullo
which is cocoon in Spanish (but in Spain it has a slightly double
On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 7:46 AM, Reinhard Pötz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
... . Apache Cocoon Silk
My favorite - usually known as Cocoon Silk
... . Apache Silk...
Omitting Cocoon in the name would be a bad idea IMO, as the Cocoon
brand is well-known.
-Bertrand
-Original Message-
From: Reinhard Pötz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: woensdag 30 juli 2008 7:46
To: dev@cocoon.apache.org
Subject: Find a new name for Corona (was: [proposal] Corona:
A Cocoon subproject)
The USA spelling might be better: Fiber.
ok, that's much better IMO
Bertrand Delacretaz pisze:
On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 7:46 AM, Reinhard Pötz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
... . Apache Cocoon Silk
My favorite - usually known as Cocoon Silk
... . Apache Silk...
Omitting Cocoon in the name would be a bad idea IMO, as the Cocoon
brand is well-known.
+1
--
Hi,
2008/7/30 Reinhard Pötz [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
ok, that's much better IMO. Provided that we are allowed to have a
subproject without Cocoon in the name, the current list of suggested names
includes:
. Apache Cocoon Fiber
. Apache Cocoon Silk
. Apache Fiber
. Apache Silk
Any other
Reinhard Pötz wrote:
. Apache Cocoon Fiber
. Apache Cocoon Silk
. Apache Fiber
. Apache Silk
Any other suggestions?
I agree with the others that we should leave Cocoon in the name. We
have a very strong brand which we should use.
I don't like Fiber - it reminds me of the German word
Silk is the shorthand name for SilkTest and SilkPerformer.
http://www.borland.com/us/products/silk/index.html.
Carsten Ziegeler wrote:
Reinhard Pötz wrote:
. Apache Cocoon Fiber
. Apache Cocoon Silk
. Apache Fiber
. Apache Silk
Any other suggestions?
I agree with the others that we
:-( that's bad. Any other suggestions?
Ralph Goers wrote:
Silk is the shorthand name for SilkTest and SilkPerformer.
http://www.borland.com/us/products/silk/index.html.
Carsten Ziegeler wrote:
Reinhard Pötz wrote:
. Apache Cocoon Fiber
. Apache Cocoon Silk
. Apache Fiber
. Apache Silk
On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 5:28 PM, Reinhard Pötz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
:-( that's bad. Any other suggestions?
I still think that Cocoon 3.0 could be the name, if people are going
to invest a significant effort in what's Corona today. For Sling we'd
like to use the pipelines implementation, so
Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 5:28 PM, Reinhard Pötz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
:-( that's bad. Any other suggestions?
I still think that Cocoon 3.0 could be the name, if people are going
to invest a significant effort in what's Corona today. For Sling we'd
like to use the
On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 6:04 PM, Reinhard Pötz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...I'm still not convinced that we should name it Cocoon 3.0 _now_ (quoting
myself from a few days ago):..
I knew someone had said something about that, couldn't find that thread ;-)
...When Corona is able to attract a
Just my 0,02 cents...
I always considered Cocoon to mean more than pipelines, sitemap and alike
Thus I don't think using Cocoon 3.0 being an apropriate name.
What about
Cocoon Pipe (ok, not exaktly)
or
Cocoon Bones
Rainer
Reinhard Pötz schrieb:
Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
On Wed, Jul
On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 10:53 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 5:28 PM, Reinhard Pötz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
:-( that's bad. Any other suggestions?
I still think that Cocoon 3.0 could be the name, if people are going
to invest a significant effort
Peter Hunsberger wrote:
On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 10:53 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 5:28 PM, Reinhard Pötz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
:-( that's bad. Any other suggestions?
I still
Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
If that's the plan (and I like it), why not keep the project Corona
name for now?
That would be just a project name, not a product name, so we don't
need to care about conflicts, the full name would be Apache Cocoon -
project Corona.
In my, very humble, opinion,
David Crossley wrote:
Reinhard P?tz wrote:
David Crossley wrote:
Reinhard P?tz wrote:
Finally this brings me to my last question: Do we want or do we have to
change the name Corona? For the legal part of this question, who can I
ask to get a final yes or no?
The Apache Incubator docs should
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