Re: Removing author tags (again)

2005-10-12 Thread Upayavira
Ralph Goers wrote: Torsten Curdt wrote: What has stopped us is that we need to keep a track of these to give credit. And also show to the world the incredibly large developer group we are :-) But if you give credit without a connection to parts of the code it's just a list of the

Re: Removing author tags (again)

2005-10-12 Thread Berin Loritsch
Sylvain Wallez wrote: Carsten Ziegeler wrote: I think a long time ago we decided to remove the author tags, upto now nothing really happend :( Yep. There was a positive vote (probably more than one actually), and since then nobody adds new @author tags, meaning the information is

Re: Removing author tags (again)

2005-10-12 Thread Berin Loritsch
Torsten Curdt wrote: What has stopped us is that we need to keep a track of these to give credit. And also show to the world the incredibly large developer group we are :-) But if you give credit without a connection to parts of the code it's just a list of the committers (more or less)

Re: Removing author tags (again)

2005-10-12 Thread hepabolu
Berin Loritsch wrote: Torsten Curdt wrote: So either remove them or don't. But giving credit besides the community credits does not make much sense to me. *shrug* You know, I still get people emailing me about some code that I wrote well over two years ago just because my name is in

Re: Removing author tags (again)

2005-10-12 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Berin Loritsch wrote: Torsten Curdt wrote: What has stopped us is that we need to keep a track of these to give credit. And also show to the world the incredibly large developer group we are :-) But if you give credit without a connection to parts of the code it's just a list of the

Re: Removing author tags (again)

2005-10-12 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
hepabolu wrote: Berin Loritsch wrote: Torsten Curdt wrote: So either remove them or don't. But giving credit besides the community credits does not make much sense to me. *shrug* You know, I still get people emailing me about some code that I wrote well over two years ago just

Removing author tags (again)

2005-10-11 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
I think a long time ago we decided to remove the author tags, upto now nothing really happend :( I want to go ahead and remove them from the portal block, so perhaps this is a motivation for others to do the same for other parts. Now my question is, where and how do I put the authors to give

Re: Removing author tags (again)

2005-10-11 Thread Ralph Goers
Carsten Ziegeler wrote: I think a long time ago we decided to remove the author tags, upto now nothing really happend :( I want to go ahead and remove them from the portal block, so perhaps this is a motivation for others to do the same for other parts. Now my question is, where and how do I

Re: Removing author tags (again)

2005-10-11 Thread Torsten Curdt
What has stopped us is that we need to keep a track of these to give credit. And also show to the world the incredibly large developer group we are :-) But if you give credit without a connection to parts of the code it's just a list of the committers (more or less) If you *have* a

Re: Removing author tags (again)

2005-10-11 Thread Ralph Goers
Torsten Curdt wrote: What has stopped us is that we need to keep a track of these to give credit. And also show to the world the incredibly large developer group we are :-) But if you give credit without a connection to parts of the code it's just a list of the committers (more or less)

[vote results] Removing author tags

2005-05-07 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Hi all, Here are the vote results: - removing people's name in author tags was voted unanimously with 14 +1. - having no author tag at all obtained 12 +1 and one +0 - having @author the Cocoon dev team obtained 2 +0. The choice is clear! However, an issue that showed up during the vote was the

Re: [VOTE] Removing author tags

2005-05-05 Thread David Crossley
Sylvain Wallez wrote: Hi all, We discussed more that one year ago the removal of @author tags in our source files (see [1] and [2]) but although the consensus was to remove them, we never actually did it. Now most if not all new classes added since then have no @author tag, leading to a

Re: [VOTE] Removing author tags

2005-05-05 Thread Giacomo Pati
On Mon, May 02, 2005 at 11:52:50PM +0200, Sylvain Wallez wrote: [+1] no @author tag at all, [+0] @author The Cocoon development team -- Giacomo Pati Otego AG, Switzerland - http://www.otego.com Orixo, the XML business alliance - http://www.orixo.com smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic

Re: [VOTE] Removing author tags

2005-05-04 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Tuesday 03 May 2005 23:07, Ralph Goers wrote: Well, that may be true, but not being a lawyer I really don't know.  As I read it I understood Larry basically saying, We provide the legal guidance, but we can't make you do anything.   However, I guess I'd like somebody to clarify this to the

Re: [VOTE] Removing author tags

2005-05-04 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
On Tue, 3 May 2005, Sylvain Wallez wrote: Vadim Gritsenko wrote: Just for fun, and for meaningless PR statements like Cocoon is a result of work of 12345 developers! 8-O, we can aggregate all names of all contributors into one file. Very cool ;-) Dw

Re: [VOTE] Removing author tags

2005-05-04 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Niclas Hedhman wrote: On Tuesday 03 May 2005 23:07, Ralph Goers wrote: Well, that may be true, but not being a lawyer I really don't know. As I read it I understood Larry basically saying, We provide the legal guidance, but we can't make you do anything. However, I guess I'd like somebody to

Re: [VOTE] Removing author tags

2005-05-04 Thread Jeremy Quinn
On 2 May 2005, at 22:52, Sylvain Wallez wrote: So I propose to remove @author tags with people names from all our source files. +1 Additionally, if you agree with removing names, do you want source files to have: [ X ] no @author tag at all, [ ] @author The Cocoon development team [ ] @author

Re: [VOTE] Removing author tags

2005-05-04 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Wednesday 04 May 2005 16:16, Sylvain Wallez wrote: The copyright attribution to the ASF seems to be problematic as it seems that, at least in some countries, an author cannot give its copyright. Exactly. All variants exist, and effectively creating a nightmare. Furthermore, I assume it is

Re: [VOTE] Removing author tags

2005-05-04 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
Vadim Gritsenko wrote: ... Just for fun, and for meaningless PR statements like Cocoon is a result of work of 12345 developers! 8-O, we can aggregate all names of all contributors into one file. Cool! :-D In this case we have change the thread to: [VOTE] Refactor @author tags in a single file

Re: [VOTE] Removing author tags

2005-05-04 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: Vadim Gritsenko wrote: ... Just for fun, and for meaningless PR statements like Cocoon is a result of work of 12345 developers! 8-O, we can aggregate all names of all contributors into one file. Cool! :-D In this case we have change the thread to: [VOTE] Refactor

RE: [VOTE] Removing author tags

2005-05-03 Thread Nathaniel Alfred
-Original Message- From: Sylvain Wallez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Montag, 2. Mai 2005 23:53 To: dev@cocoon.apache.org Subject: [VOTE] Removing author tags So I propose to remove @author tags with people names from all our source files. +1 Additionally, if you agree

Re: [VOTE] Removing author tags

2005-05-03 Thread Reinhard Poetz
Sylvain Wallez wrote: Hi all, We discussed more that one year ago the removal of @author tags in our source files (see [1] and [2]) but although the consensus was to remove them, we never actually did it. Now most if not all new classes added since then have no @author tag, leading to a strange

Re: [VOTE] Removing author tags

2005-05-03 Thread Leszek Gawron
Sylvain Wallez wrote: So I propose to remove @author tags with people names from all our source files. Additionally, if you agree with removing names, do you want source files to have: [+1] no @author tag at all, [ ] @author The Cocoon development team [ ] @author . (something else) --

Re: [VOTE] Removing author tags

2005-05-03 Thread Ugo Cei
Il giorno 02/mag/05, alle 23:52, Sylvain Wallez ha scritto: [ X] no @author tag at all, [ ] @author The Cocoon development team [ ] @author . (something else) Ugo -- Ugo Cei Tech Blog: http://agylen.com/ Source.zone: http://sourcezone.info/ Wine Food Blog: http://www.divinocibo.it/

Re: [VOTE] Removing author tags

2005-05-03 Thread Ugo Cei
Sorry, voting again, since in my previous message I didn't state an explicit +1 to the first question (although it could have been inferred from the answer to the second one). So I propose to remove @author tags with people names from all our source files. +1 Additionally, if you agree with

Re: [VOTE] Removing author tags

2005-05-03 Thread Gianugo Rabellino
On 5/2/05, Sylvain Wallez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So I propose to remove @author tags with people names from all our source files. +1 Additionally, if you agree with removing names, do you want source files to have: [X ] no @author tag at all, [ ] @author The Cocoon development team [

Re: [VOTE] Removing author tags

2005-05-03 Thread Geoff Howard
On 5/2/05, Sylvain Wallez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So I propose to remove @author tags with people names from all our source files. +1 Additionally, if you agree with removing names, do you want source files to have: [X] no @author tag at all, Additionally, non-committers that have

Re: [VOTE] Removing author tags

2005-05-03 Thread Andrew Savory
On 2 May 2005, at 22:52, Sylvain Wallez wrote: So I propose to remove @author tags with people names from all our source files. +1 Additionally, if you agree with removing names, do you want source files to have: [+1] no @author tag at all, [ ] @author The Cocoon development team [ ] @author

Re: [VOTE] Removing author tags

2005-05-03 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Ralph Goers wrote: Daniel Fagerstrom wrote: Sylvain Wallez wrote: So I propose to remove @author tags with people names from all our source files. +1 Well, I'm not really sure how to vote on this. I've pasted an email from Larry Rosen to the Apache Legal list that seems to say that the Cocoon

Re: [VOTE] Removing author tags

2005-05-03 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: Sylvain Wallez wrote: Hi all, We discussed more that one year ago the removal of @author tags in our source files (see [1] and [2]) but although the consensus was to remove them, we never actually did it. Now most if not all new classes added since then have no @author

Re: [VOTE] Removing author tags

2005-05-03 Thread Vadim Gritsenko
Sylvain Wallez wrote: Also, when we commit a patch, the rule is to add the name of the patch contributor status.xml. Is it enough or should we also add it to a global authors file? Just for fun, and for meaningless PR statements like Cocoon is a result of work of 12345 developers! 8-O, we can

Re: [VOTE] Removing author tags

2005-05-03 Thread Ralph Goers
Sylvain Wallez wrote: Ralph Goers wrote: Well, I'm not really sure how to vote on this. I've pasted an email from Larry Rosen to the Apache Legal list that seems to say that the Cocoon source files should not have the Apache copyright in them, but instead have the copyright of the committers

Re: [VOTE] Removing author tags

2005-05-03 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Vadim Gritsenko wrote: Sylvain Wallez wrote: Also, when we commit a patch, the rule is to add the name of the patch contributor status.xml. Is it enough or should we also add it to a global authors file? Just for fun, and for meaningless PR statements like Cocoon is a result of work of 12345

Re: Removing @author tags

2005-05-02 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 1 mai 05, à 22:46, Sylvain Wallez a écrit : ...So, I think it's really time to do some cleanup and remove these tags everywhere... Fine with me IIRC Bertrand ran a script to extract the current tags to build a credits file. Bertrand, any information on this? I did save the @author info in

Re: Removing @author tags

2005-05-02 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: Le 1 mai 05, à 22:46, Sylvain Wallez a écrit : ...So, I think it's really time to do some cleanup and remove these tags everywhere... Fine with me IIRC Bertrand ran a script to extract the current tags to build a credits file. Bertrand, any information on this? I did

Re: Removing @author tags

2005-05-02 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Sylvain Wallez wrote: Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: Le 1 mai 05, à 22:46, Sylvain Wallez a écrit : ...So, I think it's really time to do some cleanup and remove these tags everywhere... Fine with me IIRC Bertrand ran a script to extract the current tags to build a credits file. Bertrand, any

Re: Removing @author tags

2005-05-02 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: Sylvain Wallez wrote: Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: Le 1 mai 05, à 22:46, Sylvain Wallez a écrit : ...So, I think it's really time to do some cleanup and remove these tags everywhere... Fine with me IIRC Bertrand ran a script to extract the current tags to build a credits

[VOTE] Removing author tags

2005-05-02 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Hi all, We discussed more that one year ago the removal of @author tags in our source files (see [1] and [2]) but although the consensus was to remove them, we never actually did it. Now most if not all new classes added since then have no @author tag, leading to a strange situation where old

Re: [VOTE] Removing author tags

2005-05-02 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Sylvain Wallez wrote: Hi all, We discussed more that one year ago the removal of @author tags in our source files (see [1] and [2]) but although the consensus was to remove them, we never actually did it. Now most if not all new classes added since then have no @author tag, leading to a strange

Re: [VOTE] Removing author tags

2005-05-02 Thread Daniel Fagerstrom
Sylvain Wallez wrote: So I propose to remove @author tags with people names from all our source files. +1 Additionally, if you agree with removing names, do you want source files to have: [ x ] no @author tag at all, [ ] @author The Cocoon development team [ ] @author . (something else)

Re: [VOTE] Removing author tags

2005-05-02 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Sylvain Wallez wrote: Hi all, We discussed more that one year ago the removal of @author tags in our source files (see [1] and [2]) but although the consensus was to remove them, we never actually did it. Now most if not all new classes added since then have no @author tag, leading to a strange

Re: [VOTE] Removing author tags

2005-05-02 Thread Antonio Gallardo
On Lun, 2 de Mayo de 2005, 16:52, Sylvain Wallez dijo: So I propose to remove @author tags with people names from all our source files. +1 Additionally, if you agree with removing names, do you want source files to have: [+0] no @author tag at all, [+0] @author The Cocoon development

[Fwd: Re: [VOTE] Removing author tags]

2005-05-02 Thread Ralph Goers
Sorry if this shows up twice, but I posted it two hours ago and it still hasn't hit the list... Original Message Subject: Re: [VOTE] Removing author tags Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 16:28:11 -0700 From: Ralph Goers [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: dev@cocoon.apache.org References: [EMAIL

Re: [VOTE] Removing author tags

2005-05-02 Thread Ralph Goers
Daniel Fagerstrom wrote: Sylvain Wallez wrote: So I propose to remove @author tags with people names from all our source files. +1 Well, I'm not really sure how to vote on this. I've pasted an email from Larry Rosen to the Apache Legal list that seems to say that the Cocoon source files should

Re: [VOTE] Removing author tags

2005-05-02 Thread Ralph Goers
Wow. it finally showed up. I wonder where it went in the meantime? Ralph Goers wrote: Daniel Fagerstrom wrote: Sylvain Wallez wrote: So I propose to remove @author tags with people names from all our source files. +1 Well, I'm not really sure how to vote on this. I've pasted an email from

Re: [VOTE] Removing author tags

2005-05-02 Thread Antonio Gallardo
On Lun, 2 de Mayo de 2005, 18:28, Ralph Goers dijo: Daniel Fagerstrom wrote: Sylvain Wallez wrote: So I propose to remove @author tags with people names from all our source files. +1 Well, I'm not really sure how to vote on this. I've pasted an email from Larry Rosen to the Apache

Re: [VOTE] Removing author tags

2005-05-02 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 2 mai 05, à 23:52, Sylvain Wallez a écrit : ..So I propose to remove @author tags with people names from all our source files. +1 Additionally, if you agree with removing names, do you want source files to have: [X ] no @author tag at all, -Bertrand smime.p7s Description: S/MIME

Removing @author tags

2005-05-01 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Hi all, We decided a long time ago to remove @author tags, but never actually did it. In the meantime, most if not all new classes added since we made that decision have no author tag. This leads to a somewhat inconsistent state where only old authors are mentioned. So, I think it's really

Re: Removing @author tags

2005-05-01 Thread Torsten Curdt
So, I think it's really time to do some cleanup and remove these tags everywhere. Not a big itch ...but sure IIRC Bertrand ran a script to extract the current tags to build a credits file. Bertrand, any information on this? Credits? Wondering how that would look like?! Do we need that at