Re: [releasing] SVN Tag creeated by maven

2009-05-12 Thread Christian Grobmeier
OK, replying to myself I found in D2 of CreatingReleases: "If vote fails, undo and redo previous steps as appropriate (make sure SVN tag is deleted before recreating). And rest assured that most releases need more than one release candidate ..." I am assuming that the process with the tag na

Re: [all] Core library dependencies [was COLLECTIONS 3.3 release]

2009-05-12 Thread Jörg Schaible
Matt Benson wrote at Dienstag, 12. Mai 2009 15:11: > > > > --- On Tue, 5/12/09, Jörg Schaible wrote: > >> From: Jörg Schaible >> Subject: Re: [all] Core library dependencies [was COLLECTIONS 3.3 >> release] To: dev@commons.apache.org >> Date: Tuesday, May 12, 2009, 7:54 AM >> John Bollinger

Re: [all] Rebooting commons projects

2009-05-12 Thread Jörg Schaible
James Carman wrote at Mittwoch, 13. Mai 2009 04:30: > On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 9:38 PM, Dan Fabulich wrote: >> If you feel like you'd want to call it "lang2" or "lang-ng" then just >> call it lang 2.0 or 3.0 or whatever and keep a lang-1.x branch around for >> stability fixes. > > I thought we ag

Re: [releasing] SVN Tag creeated by maven

2009-05-12 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 8:57 PM, James Carman wrote: > We could probably use the release plugin to create a branch for each > rc, right?  Then, run the release process off that branch and it'll > create the correct tag. How can one configure this? I think it can be done somehow in th eparent pom

Re: [releasing] SVN Tag creeated by maven

2009-05-12 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 7:41 PM, Dan Fabulich wrote: > When I ran it, the release plugin prompted me for the tag name to create. > Rather than accept defaults, I manually typed in the appropriate tag name. OK, will try the same now, but at dbutils its only one tag availabe even if you did some mo

Re: [all] Rebooting commons projects

2009-05-12 Thread James Carman
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 9:38 PM, Dan Fabulich wrote: > If you feel like you'd want to call it "lang2" or "lang-ng" then just call > it lang 2.0 or 3.0 or whatever and keep a lang-1.x branch around for > stability fixes. I thought we agreed that we would "jump" major version numbers (as you sugges

RE: [all] Rebooting commons projects

2009-05-12 Thread Dan Fabulich
Gary Gregory wrote: Ah, em, we cannot do exactly that of course but the idea is that a new project/version can reflect two ideas: A new JRE requirement and/or a new implementation of the project SO different to warrant a new project. I also don't like "-ng" or even "blah2". Specifically, I d

RE: [all] Rebooting commons projects

2009-05-12 Thread Gary Gregory
> -Original Message- > From: Gary Gregory [mailto:ggreg...@seagullsoftware.com] > Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 6:19 PM > To: Commons Developers List > Subject: RE: [all] Rebooting commons projects > > > -Original Message- > > From: James Carman [mailto:ja...@carmanconsulting.com] >

RE: [all] Rebooting commons projects

2009-05-12 Thread Gary Gregory
> -Original Message- > From: James Carman [mailto:ja...@carmanconsulting.com] > Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 5:33 PM > To: Commons Developers List > Subject: Re: [all] Rebooting commons projects > > On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 7:12 PM, Stephen Colebourne > wrote: > > > > Lets also say that the

Re: [all] Rebooting commons projects

2009-05-12 Thread James Carman
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 7:12 PM, Stephen Colebourne wrote: > > Lets also say that the new project name cannot be numerically based, so no > [lang2] or [lang5] projects, thats way too confusing. But [lang-ng] would be > ok. And, when we want to "reboot" again, we name it [lang-nng]? -

Re: [all] Rebooting commons projects

2009-05-12 Thread Ralph Goers
On May 12, 2009, at 4:12 PM, Stephen Colebourne wrote: Every so often, projects need to "reboot". Its healthy and useful, as most developers want innovate rather than maintain. Up until now, we've tried to do this within the existing project. Its failed miserably. So, lets just accept

[all] Rebooting commons projects

2009-05-12 Thread Stephen Colebourne
Henri Yandell wrote: +1 to Stephen on backwards compat (which is probably surprising given how much I argue with him on that subject). I agree with it - but it frustrates me immensely due to the sheer damage I think it does to a project. I'm of the opinion nowadays that in a project there are tw

Re: [all] Core library dependencies [was COLLECTIONS 3.3 release]

2009-05-12 Thread Stephen Colebourne
Matt Benson wrote: What [functor] needs is the confidence to stand up and say "hey, come and use me, here's what I offer". I somewhat resent the implication that I and others might be trying to buffalo > [functor] into "proper" status, but I'm known for paranoia, so forgive me > if I've read mo

Re: [all] Core library dependencies [was COLLECTIONS 3.3 release]

2009-05-12 Thread Stephen Colebourne
James Carman wrote: On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 7:29 AM, Stephen Colebourne wrote: The 'functors' in [collections] and [functor] are very different: I would argue that they're not inherently different, though. A Predicate in collections-speak is the same thing as a UnaryPredicate in functor-spea

Re: [jira] Updated: (FILEUPLOAD-173) Manifest for OSGi has invalid syntax

2009-05-12 Thread sebb
On 12/05/2009, Niall Pemberton wrote: > On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 8:14 PM, sebb wrote: > > On 12/05/2009, Niall Pemberton wrote: > >> On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 8:26 AM, Jochen Wiedmann > >> > >> wrote: > >> > >> > Hi, > >> > > >> > as I have absolutely no idea about OSGI: Can anyone confi

Re: [jira] Updated: (FILEUPLOAD-173) Manifest for OSGi has invalid syntax

2009-05-12 Thread Niall Pemberton
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 8:14 PM, sebb wrote: > On 12/05/2009, Niall Pemberton wrote: >> On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 8:26 AM, Jochen Wiedmann >> >> wrote: >> >> > Hi, >>  > >>  > as I have absolutely no idea about OSGI: Can anyone confirm or deny >>  > this statement from the bug report: >> >> >> I d

Re: [jira] Updated: (FILEUPLOAD-173) Manifest for OSGi has invalid syntax

2009-05-12 Thread sebb
On 12/05/2009, Niall Pemberton wrote: > On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 8:26 AM, Jochen Wiedmann > > wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > as I have absolutely no idea about OSGI: Can anyone confirm or deny > > this statement from the bug report: > > > I don't know if its an error or not and whether its fixed in a

Re: [releasing] SVN Tag creeated by maven

2009-05-12 Thread James Carman
We could probably use the release plugin to create a branch for each rc, right? Then, run the release process off that branch and it'll create the correct tag. On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 1:41 PM, Dan Fabulich wrote: > When I ran it, the release plugin prompted me for the tag name to create. > Rathe

Re: [jira] Updated: (FILEUPLOAD-173) Manifest for OSGi has invalid syntax

2009-05-12 Thread Niall Pemberton
On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 8:26 AM, Jochen Wiedmann wrote: > Hi, > > as I have absolutely no idea about OSGI: Can anyone confirm or deny > this statement from the bug report: I don't know if its an error or not and whether its fixed in a later version of the maven-bundle-plugin or not. I'll ask on t

Re: [VOTE] Release commons-compress-1.0 based on RC1

2009-05-12 Thread Niall Pemberton
On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 1:45 PM, sebb wrote: > On 11/05/2009, Christian Grobmeier wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> as already discussed, I just created a RC1 for the first [compress] release >> :-) >> Let me know if you can find any problems. >> >> Cheers, >> Christian >> >> >> Tag: >> >> https://

[g...@vmgump]: Project commons-compress (in module apache-commons) failed

2009-05-12 Thread commons-compress development
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Re: [releasing] SVN Tag creeated by maven

2009-05-12 Thread Dan Fabulich
When I ran it, the release plugin prompted me for the tag name to create. Rather than accept defaults, I manually typed in the appropriate tag name. -Dan Christian Grobmeier wrote: Hi, currently the mvn -Prc release:perform creates a tag with the release name instead of f.e. commons-compress

Re: [all] Core library dependencies [was COLLECTIONS 3.3 release]

2009-05-12 Thread James Carman
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 7:29 AM, Stephen Colebourne wrote: > The 'functors' in [collections] and [functor] are very different: > http://commons.apache.org/collections/api-release/org/apache/commons/collections/package-summary.html > http://commons.apache.org/sandbox/functor/apidocs/org/apache/comm

Re: [all] Core library dependencies [was COLLECTIONS 3.3 release]

2009-05-12 Thread Matt Benson
--- On Tue, 5/12/09, Stephen Colebourne wrote: > From: Stephen Colebourne > Subject: Re: [all] Core library dependencies [was COLLECTIONS 3.3 release] > To: "Commons Developers List" > Date: Tuesday, May 12, 2009, 6:29 AM > > From: John Bollinger > > Which is exactly why Collections should

Re: [all] Core library dependencies [was COLLECTIONS 3.3 release]

2009-05-12 Thread Matt Benson
--- On Tue, 5/12/09, Jörg Schaible wrote: > From: Jörg Schaible > Subject: Re: [all] Core library dependencies [was COLLECTIONS 3.3 release] > To: dev@commons.apache.org > Date: Tuesday, May 12, 2009, 7:54 AM > John Bollinger wrote at Dienstag, 12. > Mai 2009 14:19: > > > > > > > Stephen C

Re: [VOTE] Release commons-compress-1.0 based on RC1

2009-05-12 Thread sebb
On 12/05/2009, Jörg Schaible wrote: > sebb wrote at Dienstag, 12. Mai 2009 13:47: > > > > On 12/05/2009, Jörg Schaible wrote: > >> sebb wrote at Dienstag, 12. Mai 2009 11:22: > >> > >> [snip] > >> > >> > >> > One other change needed to SVN: > >> > > >> > svn ps svn:eol-style native >

Re: [all] Core library dependencies [was COLLECTIONS 3.3 release]

2009-05-12 Thread Jörg Schaible
John Bollinger wrote at Dienstag, 12. Mai 2009 14:19: > > > Stephen Colebourne wrote: >> The 'functors' in [collections] and [functor] are very different: > > Thanks for clearing that up. It obviously moots my argument as it applies > to Collections / Functor, though I think the distinction be

Re: [VOTE] Release commons-compress-1.0 based on RC1

2009-05-12 Thread Jörg Schaible
sebb wrote at Dienstag, 12. Mai 2009 13:47: > On 12/05/2009, Jörg Schaible wrote: >> sebb wrote at Dienstag, 12. Mai 2009 11:22: >> >> [snip] >> >> >> > One other change needed to SVN: >> > >> > svn ps svn:eol-style native >> > src/main/java/org/apache/commons/compress/changes/ChangeSetResul

Re: [VOTE] Release commons-compress-1.0 based on RC1

2009-05-12 Thread sebb
On 12/05/2009, Christian Grobmeier wrote: > >> > Yes, I know; the original instructions (shown as outdated, at the > >> > bottom) imply that it is possible; seems to me it would be a lot > >> > better. > >> > >> > >> No its not outdated - just the last paragraph is outdated by the above >

Re: [all] Core library dependencies [was COLLECTIONS 3.3 release]

2009-05-12 Thread John Bollinger
Stephen Colebourne wrote: > The 'functors' in [collections] and [functor] are very different: Thanks for clearing that up. It obviously moots my argument as it applies to Collections / Functor, though I think the distinction between private dependencies and public ones is still generally releva

Re: [VOTE] Release commons-compress-1.0 based on RC1

2009-05-12 Thread Christian Grobmeier
>>  > Yes, I know; the original instructions (shown as outdated, at the >>  > bottom) imply that it is possible; seems to me it would be a lot >>  > better. >> >> >> No its not outdated - just the last paragraph is outdated by the above >> writings: > > That's what I meant - the last para is marke

Re: [VOTE] Release commons-compress-1.0 based on RC1

2009-05-12 Thread sebb
On 12/05/2009, Christian Grobmeier wrote: > >> I think similar, but this has been done automatically when following: > >> http://wiki.apache.org/commons/CreatingReleases > > > > Yes, I know; the original instructions (shown as outdated, at the > > bottom) imply that it is possible; seems to m

Re: [VOTE] Release commons-compress-1.0 based on RC1

2009-05-12 Thread sebb
On 12/05/2009, Jörg Schaible wrote: > sebb wrote at Dienstag, 12. Mai 2009 11:22: > > [snip] > > > > One other change needed to SVN: > > > > svn ps svn:eol-style native > > src/main/java/org/apache/commons/compress/changes/ChangeSetResults.java > > svn ps svn:eol-style native src/site/xdoc/d

Re: [all] Core library dependencies [was COLLECTIONS 3.3 release]

2009-05-12 Thread Stephen Colebourne
From: John Bollinger > Which is exactly why Collections should not copy Functor. Either Functor > should be absorbed back into Collections, or Collections should have > Functor as a dependency, for otherwise users must maintain separate > functors for use with Collections and for other purposes.

[releasing] SVN Tag creeated by maven

2009-05-12 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Hi, currently the mvn -Prc release:perform creates a tag with the release name instead of f.e. commons-compress-1_0-RC1. 1) Do I have to remove the tag commons-compress-1_0 manually when doing a second release candidate? Just want to make sure, don't want to break the rules. 2) Is it really good

Re: [VOTE] Release commons-compress-1.0 based on RC1

2009-05-12 Thread Christian Grobmeier
>> I think similar, but this has been done automatically when following: >>  http://wiki.apache.org/commons/CreatingReleases > > Yes, I know; the original instructions (shown as outdated, at the > bottom) imply that it is possible; seems to me it would be a lot > better. No its not outdated - just

Re: [VOTE] Release commons-compress-1.0 based on RC1

2009-05-12 Thread Jörg Schaible
sebb wrote at Dienstag, 12. Mai 2009 11:22: [snip] > One other change needed to SVN: > > svn ps svn:eol-style native > src/main/java/org/apache/commons/compress/changes/ChangeSetResults.java > svn ps svn:eol-style native src/site/xdoc/download_compress.xml > svn ps svn:eol-style native > src/tes

Re: [VOTE] Release commons-compress-1.0 based on RC1

2009-05-12 Thread sebb
On 12/05/2009, Christian Grobmeier wrote: > >> Tag: > >> > https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/commons/proper/compress/tags/commons-compress-1.0/ > > > > I don't like the use of final tag names for release candidates; tags > > should be immutable, so how can one generate another release candid