Re: [jelly] Is jelly still in development vs. Open/FederatedCommons

2008-11-12 Thread John Spackman
an exception if an unknown tag is used in a TagLibrary - FIXED Regards, John - Original Message - From: sebb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Commons Developers List dev@commons.apache.org Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 11:48 AM Subject: Re: [jelly] Is jelly still in development vs. Open

Re: [jelly] Is jelly still in development vs. Open/FederatedCommons

2008-11-11 Thread Russel Winder
On Mon, 2008-11-10 at 17:27 -0500, Rahul Akolkar wrote: On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 3:22 AM, Russel Winder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: big-snip/ I think the bulk of this message would have been better off in a new thread, marked [OT]. Possibly but I didn't think of it. On other lists that would

Re: [jelly] Is jelly still in development vs. Open/FederatedCommons

2008-11-11 Thread Russel Winder
John, On Tue, 2008-11-11 at 05:28 +, John Spackman wrote: [ . . . ] I think you're talking about a different problem - Jelly is used for far more than Ant/Maven replacement (I don't usually use either) and maintaining it is not an altruistic choice for me, but a practical one because I

Re: [jelly] Is jelly still in development vs. Open/FederatedCommons

2008-11-11 Thread Paul Libbrecht
:16 AM Subject: Re: [jelly] Is jelly still in development vs. Open/ FederatedCommons John, Le 10-nov.-08 à 07:11, John Spackman a écrit : Yes, kind of - I've only recently come across Git and the concept of DVCS but it was my intention to look at using a DVCS for this. But DVCS only does

Re: [jelly] Is jelly still in development vs. Open/FederatedCommons

2008-11-11 Thread sebb
: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 9:19 AM Subject: Re: [jelly] Is jelly still in development vs. Open/FederatedCommons We're converging John here, I'll try to keep up with patches and commits in order for you to become a committer. Henri, can you please agree that we try to make jelly enter

Re: [jelly] Is jelly still in development vs. Open/Federated Commons

2008-11-11 Thread John Spackman
Hi Henri, Using Henri's analogies from his recent blog, I took Jelly home from the Commons a couple of years ago and we're now ready to put it in the window and see if we're invited to play [...snip...] As below - analogy was about other Apache projects but probably applies here as you say.

Re: [jelly] Is jelly still in development vs. Open/FederatedCommons

2008-11-11 Thread John Spackman
- Original Message - From: Paul Libbrecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Commons Developers List dev@commons.apache.org Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 9:19 AM Subject: Re: [jelly] Is jelly still in development vs. Open/FederatedCommons We're converging John here, I'll try to keep up with patches

Re: [jelly] Is jelly still in development vs. Open/FederatedCommons

2008-11-11 Thread Rahul Akolkar
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 4:19 AM, Paul Libbrecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We're converging John here, I'll try to keep up with patches and commits in order for you to become a committer. Henri, can you please agree that we try to make jelly enter a maintained mode, within a month or so,

Re: [jelly] Is jelly still in development vs. Open/FederatedCommons

2008-11-10 Thread Russel Winder
John, On Mon, 2008-11-10 at 06:11 +, John Spackman wrote: [ . . . ] Isn't this whole Subversion centralism problem solved by using a DVCS such as Bazaar, or Git -- and soon, I gather, Mercurial. Yes, kind of - I've only recently come across Git and the concept of DVCS but it was my

Re: [jelly] Is jelly still in development vs. Open/FederatedCommons

2008-11-10 Thread Paul Libbrecht
John, Le 10-nov.-08 à 07:11, John Spackman a écrit : Yes, kind of - I've only recently come across Git and the concept of DVCS but it was my intention to look at using a DVCS for this. But DVCS only does source code - setting up a seperate branch only works if the community at large see the

Re: [jelly] Is jelly still in development vs. Open/FederatedCommons

2008-11-10 Thread Rahul Akolkar
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 3:22 AM, Russel Winder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: big-snip/ I think the bulk of this message would have been better off in a new thread, marked [OT]. Some of these discussions have been happening at the ASF, on a more appropriate list whose public archives are here:

Re: [jelly] Is jelly still in development vs. Open/Federated Commons

2008-11-10 Thread Henri Yandell
Repling inline to both Paul and John: On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 2:26 PM, Paul Libbrecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Le 09-nov.-08 à 05:35, John Spackman a écrit : snip Using Henri's analogies from his recent blog, I took Jelly home from the Commons a couple of years ago and we're now ready to put

Re: [jelly] Is jelly still in development vs. Open/FederatedCommons

2008-11-10 Thread John Spackman
find it so very useful. John - Original Message - From: Russel Winder [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Commons Developers List dev@commons.apache.org Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 8:22 AM Subject: Re: [jelly] Is jelly still in development vs. Open/FederatedCommons

Re: [jelly] Is jelly still in development vs. Open/FederatedCommons

2008-11-09 Thread John Spackman
Hi Russel, Forgive me for butting in on a conversation but . . . Anytime :) Isn't this whole Subversion centralism problem solved by using a DVCS such as Bazaar, or Git -- and soon, I gather, Mercurial. Yes, kind of - I've only recently come across Git and the concept of DVCS but it was

Re: [jelly] Is jelly still in development

2008-11-08 Thread John Spackman
, 2008 12:00 AM Subject: Re: [jelly] Is jelly still in development On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 3:11 PM, ralph.goers @dslextreme.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 11:44 AM, Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm thinking we should: a) remove from trunks-proper b) Update

Re: [jelly] Is jelly still in development

2008-11-08 Thread Paul Libbrecht
AM Subject: Re: [jelly] Is jelly still in development On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 3:11 PM, ralph.goers @dslextreme.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 11:44 AM, Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm thinking we should: a) remove from trunks-proper b) Update the homepage

Re: [jelly] Is jelly still in development vs. Open/Federated Commons

2008-11-08 Thread John Spackman
Federated Jelly website repository. Regards, John - Original Message - From: Paul Libbrecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Commons Developers List dev@commons.apache.org Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2008 11:27 PM Subject: Re: [jelly] Is jelly still in development Hello John, I think it would

Re: [jelly] Is jelly still in development vs. Open/Federated Commons

2008-11-08 Thread Russel Winder
On Sun, 2008-11-09 at 04:35 +, John Spackman wrote: [ . . . ] I am prepared to upgrade Jelly to Maven2 (not that I know much about what that involves, yet) and to improve the website but I have to be confident that the changes will happen quickly and easily, and that the project will

Re: [jelly] Is jelly still in development

2008-11-06 Thread Henri Yandell
On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 8:25 AM, Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 3:55 AM, Paul Libbrecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Le 05-nov.-08 à 10:22, XuQing Tan a écrit : I'm recently investigating some excutable xml scripters. So I want to know is Jelly still in development

[jelly] Is jelly still in development

2008-11-05 Thread XuQing Tan
Hi, all I'm recently investigating some excutable xml scripters. So I want to know is Jelly still in development, since it's last release is in 2004? -- Thanks Best Regards! Nick

Re: [jelly] Is jelly still in development

2008-11-05 Thread Paul Libbrecht
Le 05-nov.-08 à 10:22, XuQing Tan a écrit : I'm recently investigating some excutable xml scripters. So I want to know is Jelly still in development, since it's last release is in 2004? Nick, Unfortunately no. For a long time it was annoyed by the fact that building it required huge

Re: [jelly] Is jelly still in development

2008-11-05 Thread Henri Yandell
On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 3:55 AM, Paul Libbrecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Le 05-nov.-08 à 10:22, XuQing Tan a écrit : I'm recently investigating some excutable xml scripters. So I want to know is Jelly still in development, since it's last release is in 2004? Nick, Unfortunately

Re: [jelly] Is jelly still in development

2008-11-05 Thread Russel Winder
On Wed, 2008-11-05 at 10:55 +0100, Paul Libbrecht wrote: Jelly is still unbeatable as a glue in xml processing. I think that is a conjecture, a claim even, that needs justification and support. Groovy, Python, Ruby people would argue (and I think quite rightly) that XML is a data specification