will likely flag the issue.
Contended personnel votes are not common. The Board has enough
bandwidth to review them and curtail egregious abuse.
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recommendation. Committer votes do not go through the Board.)
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y. But
even if someone does, I trust that my message will have reached those it
needed to reach.
And now, as the one who insisted on having the last word, I lose.
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> Lewis Mcgibbney.
I showed up to lurk. Nice job -- thanks to all!
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> of people, to get some feedback and comments. If you would like to help out
> then please let me know and I'll send you the link.
Please count me in.
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. Feedback very much welcome.
>
> I'm making progress on this slowly.
>
> I received no feedback so I have added myself as a CoC contact using the
> above draft. I'll contact the other volunteers next.
+1
I took a look at your profile page and it looked good to me. Thanks
for volunteering!
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a change ;)
How about one slide?
* Possible to queue with no delay (depending on projection rig and
availability of support staff)
* No fiddling with presentation tools.
* Encourage presenters to be concise.
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k that's necessary, so long as we have the
President's designates. I'm anticipating that it will be the
individuals who have already stepped forward on members@apache, though
they have not yet explicitly granted permission to have their names
published.
I'll work up a new patch tomorrow when I'm a little more awake.
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d
times". It is good to know that the safety net is there.
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f Conduct page has any specific maintainer
attached to it beyond the Board itself. I figure that once we have consensus
on a patch and a volunteer list, I can run the change by board@apache for
completeness, then apply.
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st
and don't sweat the wording, just update the website -- because the
Code of Conduct already applies across all Apache projects. If people
feel like iterating on the wording later, that's fine -- but get
something up there to start with.
And then, once it's up, it would be great to hear back on this list about it. :)
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2:00pm (ON OWN)
> PM Break: 3:50pm - 4:30pm
> Please let me know who is available and when to do booth duty! Thank
> you so much!
I can help with setup on Sunday night, and I can take booth duty for
all of Tuesday.
I'm a booth noob so I hope that someone will join me on Sunday.
Stop
On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 5:00 PM, Niclas Hedhman wrote:
> Uhhh... Maybe I spoke too soon. Is the shell login removed completely as
> well?
For now, you can ssh to minotaur.apache.org.
> I guess I need to go learn the new ways of doing things then...
Soon.
Marvin Humphrey
Greets,
The Apache Lucy PMC is responsible for both the LUCY and CLOWNFISH
Jira instances, but reporter.apache.org only knows about LUCY. How
can I add CLOWNFISH?
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On Sat, Sep 19, 2015 at 6:49 PM, tyagi 221295
wrote:
> why www.apache.org is down?? from 2 days i am enable to excess this page.
It's not down for everyone else. Hard to say why you're having trouble.
For future reference:
http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/www.apache.org
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On Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at 12:24 PM, Ross Gardler
wrote:
> Superb. Thanks for stepping up.
+1!
It would be great to hear about how it went after the event.
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ezdre3se3ov5nu
http://s.apache.org/MEC
> SVN is not a distribution point.
Of course it is a distribution point. Distribution == copy to someone
else. It isn't a release (an editorial decision by the ASF).
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I'm trying to understand how we have spam problems here but not on
many other ASF lists.
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e
been stripped.
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ng paying lip-service to Apache ideals
while actually ramming through your agenda. But in theory at least,
Apache isn't here to serve them.
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blem to be tackled by each new TLP. Minute drafting
errors cause large problems.
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On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 3:36 AM, jan i wrote:
> Does anybody which email is registred for our barcamp twitter account.
>
> Help is:
>
>
> *co@a*.
Have you tried commun...@apache.org?
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is "open governance".
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tself
onto the agenda sooner.
I contend that the reasoning applied in this thread that personnel
votes are "procedural votes" is not correct, and that therefore it
does not follow that they are majority rule.
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rocedures diverge from
the norm, the more scrutiny the project can expect from the Board.
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do is talk through differences in the hope that
misunderstandings can be cleared or behavioral modifications adopted.
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ave to account for those concerns and those
opposed will need to defend their stance. The act of talking things through
should help to keep the community whole.
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[1] Anime explanation of how majority-rule voting alienates the minority:
http://www.crunchyroll.com/hunter-x-hunter/
, et al, are pretty small.
This should be an FAQ entry in the eventual Infrastructure Policy document.
FWIW I fully support Infra's current approach of prioritizing social
integration.
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y people around the Foundation have unreasonable expectations about the
Incubator's ability to assure good behavior in perpetuity for its graduates.
Meanwhile, the abominable state of our policy documentation goes unnoticed.
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re as a venue for policy debates. In the
absence of a viable public catch-all alternative, I object to ruling it out
for such use in the future.
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[1] If this argument sounds familiar to some of you, that's because I made it
a week ago on a certain private forum. Unfortunat
Welton_04_--.mp3Paul Wilson
Full details are in the document.
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aOn Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 11:00 PM, jan i wrote:
> On 29 April 2014 00:44, Marvin Humphrey wrote:
>> Some attendees are requesting video for one of the talks I gave which
>> wasn't on the video track ("Releasing Apache Software"). I figured I'd
>> wa
On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 7:13 AM, Rich Bowen wrote:
> On 05/01/2014 08:04 AM, Marvin Humphrey wrote:
>> Has uploading those mp4 files directly to YouTube been considered?
>
> No, I hadn't even considered it. That's certainly an option. Would certainly
> solve the di
n logo
> on it.
Has uploading those mp4 files directly to YouTube been considered?
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ker is embedded in the
filename.
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out publishing under the main
account, <https://www.youtube.com/user/TheApacheFoundation>, or publish
using my own account?
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On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 7:02 PM, Marvin Humphrey wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 6:34 PM, Rich Bowen wrote:
>> I've got a mostly-done tentative schedule, and I need lots of people to look
>> at it.
Seems Roman Shaposhnik is scheduled to present two talks
simultaneously on
On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 6:34 PM, Rich Bowen wrote:
> I've got a mostly-done tentative schedule, and I need lots of people to look
> at it.
Looks like my Incubator talk is scheduled to be given on both Day 1 and Day 3.
Yes, it will be so awesome that attendees will demand an enco
talk is listed in two tracks: "Community" and "For Committers".
Does that help?
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gid schedule basically skips this step, which, IMHO is
> a core part of our common culture and values.
Should projects who wish to release on a regular schedule avoid Apache?
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hful to the Apache Way both in spirit and letter.
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[1] I'm paraphrasing someone else's quote. Regrettably, it was on a private
list so I can't link to their post or give proper credit.
t we are grappling with here is the impedence mismatch between
*high-cadence* scheduled releasing, and policies and traditions at Apache
which pre-date its rise. What can we do to make life easier for projects that
want to release weekly?
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a months-long ordeal. When the new release schedule
was first proposed, many of us wondered if such an ambitious plan could
work. Now, it almost seems routine.
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low quality?
This isn't new, or experimental. It's a major movement in software
development, years old, with many popular, successful projects on board.
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of daily votes each beginning at the same hour, until one passes.
Possibly each release cycle could have a max of two or three votes.
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es...
but we don't.
If a community is experiencing frequent glitches, that just means
insufficiently mature code is being merged into the mainline too aggressively.
That's easily remedied by dialing back the pace of feature integration.
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opment, it's
plenty well established. Figuring out how best to faciliate its use presents
an opportunity to improve Apache, and I firmly believe that our models are
sufficiently flexible to handle it.
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dated by PMC members on their own hardware in addition to
any validation performed by the server), but binaries are a no-go due to the
prohibitive cost and risk of maintaining secure build servers. That leaves us
not too far from where we are today, where for many projects an RM supplies
both the so
but I'm not sure what best
practice is. Probably sending to the public list and then forwarding to the
private list?
In any case, thanks for starting things off with a very nice email!
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ivate lists. Please everyone try to keep everything
straight.
(I would personally prefer that entire discussion take place in public.)
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On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 3:02 AM, Stephen Connolly
wrote:
> One of the projects I am involved with is the Jenkins project.
>8 snip 8<-
widget on the right. You move things around using the
handles, or choose a different style or color of shirt.
http://www.zazzle.com/xml_body_t_shirt-235709333080574495
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look pleasant by comparison, this could do the trick.
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I ultimately stopped reading the Lucene dev list, even though I'm strongly
motivated to do so.
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bator.apache.org/guides/releasemanagement.html> will be a
similarly challenging undertaking.
I don't see how what needs to be done can be achieved by anybody other than
volunteers with significant expertise and patience.
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On Sat, Jan 5, 2013 at 10:20 AM, janI wrote:
> On 5 January 2013 19:14, Marvin Humphrey wrote:
>> Mature, popular projects tend to receive more contributions than they can
>> handle; competent review becomes the scarce resource. I question whether
>> an RTC project would
the PMC has, potentially,
> more people to supervise after less experience. Some projects will not see
> this as a good tradeoff.
Mature, popular projects tend to receive more contributions than they can
handle; competent review becomes the scarce resource. I question whether an
RTC project would really spend a lot of time cleaning up after newbie
rule-breakers, though.
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dropped connections and inadvertent intrusions of
background noise can be a distraction, especially since connectivity is ad
hoc per participant (as opposed to e.g. supported by an IT department when
connecting corporate offices). Some day we'll look back on this era and
laugh, but we're not there yet.
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l vote message itself.
I agree that the vote should be explicit. However, I don't see any reason not
to tack "Here's my +1" on to the end of the email calling the VOTE.
FWIW we have that built into our Release Manager email template for calling
VOTEs on release candidates (<http://s.apache.org/tT9>).
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, each of the contractors we hire are all also ASF Members.
... meaning, when we hire a contractor who is not an ASF Member, no one will
know that this page must be updated and it will become wrong.
Aside from that, LGTM!
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