Re: AW: AW: Changing the defaults for GitHub generated email titles?

2023-07-29 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Christofer Dutz wrote : > > ... Infra has been giving me quite some pushback on these changes... I think backing your request by a comdev pmc vote can help, as it's then a group representing multiple projects that makes the request, instead of just you. Bertrand

Re: AW: AW: Changing the defaults for GitHub generated email titles?

2023-07-28 Thread Richard Zowalla
te” first and then “do a >vote” next. > >Chris > > >Von: hans.van.akel...@gmail.com >Datum: Freitag, 28. Juli 2023 um 16:17 >An: dev@community.apache.org >Betreff: Re: AW: AW: Changing the defaults for GitHub generated email titles? >Does this really need a vote? >

AW: AW: AW: Changing the defaults for GitHub generated email titles?

2023-07-28 Thread Christofer Dutz
have to sort of find out “where to vote” first and then “do a vote” next. Chris Von: hans.van.akel...@gmail.com Datum: Freitag, 28. Juli 2023 um 16:17 An: dev@community.apache.org Betreff: Re: AW: AW: Changing the defaults for GitHub generated email titles? Does this really need a vote? If

Re: AW: AW: Changing the defaults for GitHub generated email titles?

2023-07-28 Thread hans . van . akelyen
it sort of feels like > carrying a bloody steak into the hungry lion’s den. > > So … anyone got any pointers to if and where we should decide on defaults > like this? > > Chris > > > > > > Von: rbo...@rcbowen.com > Datum: Freitag, 28. Juli 2023 um 15:11 &g

AW: AW: Changing the defaults for GitHub generated email titles?

2023-07-28 Thread Christofer Dutz
: Changing the defaults for GitHub generated email titles? On Thu, 2023-07-27 at 19:46 +, Christofer Dutz wrote: > Ok, > > so after the discussion didn’t come up with any objections. I > prepared a PR and that was merged today. > Now the templates no longer have to have a mandat

Re: Changing the defaults for GitHub generated email titles?

2023-07-28 Thread rbowen
On Thu, 2023-07-27 at 16:11 -0400, Kelly Oglesbee wrote: > exactly what emails are you changing, because I'm experiencing > problems > with my emails on my device? Can you elaborate? What problems are you experiencing? How can the situation be improved? --

Re: AW: Changing the defaults for GitHub generated email titles?

2023-07-28 Thread rbowen
On Thu, 2023-07-27 at 19:46 +, Christofer Dutz wrote: > Ok, > > so after the discussion didn’t come up with any objections. I > prepared a PR and that was merged today. > Now the templates no longer have to have a mandatory “repository” > variable ;-) > > I updated the PLC4X settings and it s

Re: Changing the defaults for GitHub generated email titles?

2023-07-27 Thread Kelly Oglesbee
> > Von: Kelly Oglesbee > Datum: Donnerstag, 27. Juli 2023 um 22:12 > An: dev@community.apache.org > Betreff: Re: Changing the defaults for GitHub generated email titles? > exactly what emails are you changing, because I'm experiencing problems > with my emails on my de

AW: Changing the defaults for GitHub generated email titles?

2023-07-27 Thread Christofer Dutz
shouldn’t have changed anything at all … it just allows you to do it now, and I guess so far only PLC4X uses this feature. Chris Von: Kelly Oglesbee Datum: Donnerstag, 27. Juli 2023 um 22:12 An: dev@community.apache.org Betreff: Re: Changing the defaults for GitHub generated email titles? exactly what

Re: Changing the defaults for GitHub generated email titles?

2023-07-27 Thread Kelly Oglesbee
gt; What’s your thoughts? Should I simply start a vote? > > > > Chris > > > > > > > > Von: Christofer Dutz > > Datum: Mittwoch, 19. Juli 2023 um 14:35 > > An: dev@community.apache.org > > Betreff: AW: Changing the defaults for GitHub generated

Re: Changing the defaults for GitHub generated email titles?

2023-07-27 Thread Gary Gregory
the repository). > > What’s your thoughts? Should I simply start a vote? > > Chris > > > > Von: Christofer Dutz > Datum: Mittwoch, 19. Juli 2023 um 14:35 > An: dev@community.apache.org > Betreff: AW: Changing the defaults for GitHub generated email titles? > Hi

AW: Changing the defaults for GitHub generated email titles?

2023-07-27 Thread Christofer Dutz
I chose these defaults for the projects I > could change it ;-) > > Chris > > > Von: Phil Steitz > Datum: Mittwoch, 5. Juli 2023 um 20:57 > An: dev@community.apache.org > Betreff: Re: Changing the defaults for GitHub generated email titles? > +1 from another Commons co

AW: Changing the defaults for GitHub generated email titles?

2023-07-19 Thread Christofer Dutz
discussion thread https://lists.apache.org/thread/wz6f71wovzsz0nk6bdpgs8m17f07o2ko Feel free to add your comments to it. Chris Von: Christofer Dutz Datum: Dienstag, 11. Juli 2023 um 16:29 An: dev@community.apache.org Betreff: AW: Changing the defaults for GitHub generated email titles? I have

AW: Changing the defaults for GitHub generated email titles?

2023-07-11 Thread Christofer Dutz
I chose these defaults for the projects I > could change it ;-) > > Chris > > > Von: Phil Steitz > Datum: Mittwoch, 5. Juli 2023 um 20:57 > An: dev@community.apache.org > Betreff: Re: Changing the defaults for GitHub generated email titles? > +1 from another Commons contributor

Re: Changing the defaults for GitHub generated email titles?

2023-07-11 Thread Kelly Oglesbee
; could change it ;-) > > Chris > > > Von: Phil Steitz > Datum: Mittwoch, 5. Juli 2023 um 20:57 > An: dev@community.apache.org > Betreff: Re: Changing the defaults for GitHub generated email titles? > +1 from another Commons contributor drowning in the flood of cruft on

AW: Changing the defaults for GitHub generated email titles?

2023-07-11 Thread Christofer Dutz
art with “RE:” is that the initial post > seems to be outside of the date-range of that week and the reason for one > or two long discussion titles, was they changed the config on 16.06.2023) > > > > Hope this brings a bit more context for some. > > > > Chris > > > >

Re: Changing the defaults for GitHub generated email titles?

2023-07-05 Thread Phil Steitz
at the initial post > seems to be outside of the date-range of that week and the reason for one > or two long discussion titles, was they changed the config on 16.06.2023) > > > > Hope this brings a bit more context for some. > > > > Chris > > > > > > >

Re: Changing the defaults for GitHub generated email titles?

2023-07-03 Thread Gary Gregory
eems > to be outside of the date-range of that week and the reason for one or two > long discussion titles, was they changed the config on 16.06.2023) > > Hope this brings a bit more context for some. > > Chris > > > > Von: Shane Curcuru > Datum: Freitag, 30. Juni 202

AW: Changing the defaults for GitHub generated email titles?

2023-07-03 Thread Christofer Dutz
the defaults for GitHub generated email titles? Christofer Dutz wrote on 6/30/23 3:49 AM: ...snip... > So in general, I would like to change the defaults used by the GitHub tooling > to the ones I proposed in > https://community.apache.org/contributors/mailing-lists.html#configuring-th

Re: Changing the defaults for GitHub generated email titles?

2023-06-30 Thread Shane Curcuru
Christofer Dutz wrote on 6/30/23 3:49 AM: ...snip... So in general, I would like to change the defaults used by the GitHub tooling to the ones I proposed in https://community.apache.org/contributors/mailing-lists.html#configuring-the-subject-lines-of-the-emails-being-sent . Quite a number of p

Re: AW: Changing the defaults for GitHub generated email titles?

2023-06-30 Thread Daniel Gruno
On 2023-06-30 19:41, rbo...@rcbowen.com wrote: On Fri, 2023-06-30 at 13:55 +, Christofer Dutz wrote:   *   About breaking automation projects might have set up: I would absolutely doubt there is even a single Apache project that has setup automation based on these emails. I could imagine th

Re: AW: Changing the defaults for GitHub generated email titles?

2023-06-30 Thread rbowen
On Fri, 2023-06-30 at 13:55 +, Christofer Dutz wrote: >   *   About breaking automation projects might have set up: I would > absolutely doubt there is even a single Apache project that has setup > automation based on these emails. I could imagine that there is a > hand full of companies paying

AW: Changing the defaults for GitHub generated email titles?

2023-06-30 Thread Christofer Dutz
ertrand Delacretaz > Datum: Freitag, 30. Juni 2023 um 11:11 > An: dev@community.apache.org > Betreff: Re: Changing the defaults for GitHub generated email titles? > Hi, > >> On Fri, Jun 30, 2023 at 9:50 AM Christofer Dutz >> wrote: >> ...I had many discussions with

Re: Changing the defaults for GitHub generated email titles?

2023-06-30 Thread Dave Fisher
etaz > Datum: Freitag, 30. Juni 2023 um 11:11 > An: dev@community.apache.org > Betreff: Re: Changing the defaults for GitHub generated email titles? > Hi, > >> On Fri, Jun 30, 2023 at 9:50 AM Christofer Dutz >> wrote: >> ...I had many discussions with folks at

Re: Changing the defaults for GitHub generated email titles?

2023-06-30 Thread Gary Gregory
I read a lot emails on my phone, so shorts subjects are good. If each subject becomes [PROJECT][DISCUSSION][PR 123] then it's worse than now IMO. Gary On Fri, Jun 30, 2023, 04:20 Christopher wrote: > I think this would be really great. I'm not a big fan of the [I] and [D] > topics, though. I th

Re: Changing the defaults for GitHub generated email titles?

2023-06-30 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi Chris, On Fri, Jun 30, 2023 at 11:14 AM Christofer Dutz wrote: > ...In general, I would agree, but the problem is that we currently have a very > large number of unreadable lists Fixing this is a valid goal, but breaking automation that projects might have setup is very bad. I guess what

AW: Changing the defaults for GitHub generated email titles?

2023-06-30 Thread Christofer Dutz
: Re: Changing the defaults for GitHub generated email titles? Hi, On Fri, Jun 30, 2023 at 9:50 AM Christofer Dutz wrote: > ...I had many discussions with folks at infra about changing the defaults, > but generally > met opposition. The general argument was, that there would be

AW: Changing the defaults for GitHub generated email titles?

2023-06-30 Thread Christofer Dutz
the format as I am just 100% sure the current default is harmful. Chris Von: sebb Datum: Freitag, 30. Juni 2023 um 10:36 An: dev@community.apache.org Betreff: Re: Changing the defaults for GitHub generated email titles? Mostly agree, though I wonder why the numbers have been dropped from the

Re: Changing the defaults for GitHub generated email titles?

2023-06-30 Thread Jarek Potiuk
Big +1 on that one. There were cases in the past that some "breaking" changes in GitHub integration were introduced already for various reasons. Given some warnings and explanations why we are doing it (basically to better fulfill our mission) it's a change that is pretty easily actionable for the

Re: Changing the defaults for GitHub generated email titles?

2023-06-30 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi, On Fri, Jun 30, 2023 at 9:50 AM Christofer Dutz wrote: > ...I had many discussions with folks at infra about changing the defaults, > but generally > met opposition. The general argument was, that there would be bots that > automatically > consume these emails and these would be confused if

Re: Changing the defaults for GitHub generated email titles?

2023-06-30 Thread sebb
Mostly agree, though I wonder why the numbers have been dropped from the shorter titles. [D] could be [DISCUSS] or [RFC] perhaps. On Fri, 30 Jun 2023 at 09:20, Christopher wrote: > > I think this would be really great. I'm not a big fan of the [I] and [D] > topics, though. I think I'd rather see

Re: Changing the defaults for GitHub generated email titles?

2023-06-30 Thread Christopher
I think this would be really great. I'm not a big fan of the [I] and [D] topics, though. I think I'd rather see [ISSUE] and [DISCUSSION], but either way, the ability to group emails is a big improvement. I'd also prefer to always include [GH] as a topic tag, so for example, [GH][ISSUE], so if peopl

Changing the defaults for GitHub generated email titles?

2023-06-30 Thread Christofer Dutz
Hi all, So, we have made it possible to “integrate” GitHub PRs, Issues and now even Discussions by having infra auto-generate emails. However, is the default setting for these just completely useless (in my opinion). Without taking action currently there are only the following options: * A