Re: increasing GSoC visibility within the ASF

2013-04-11 Thread Ross Gardler
On 11 April 2013 23:30, Suresh Marru wrote: > On Apr 11, 2013, at 12:07 PM, Luciano Resende > wrote: > > One of the issues is that we keep using GSoC + year as tag, so we pretty > > much discard all the previous years project ideas that are still open. I > > think using something generic like GS

Re: increasing GSoC visibility within the ASF

2013-04-11 Thread Suresh Marru
On Apr 11, 2013, at 12:07 PM, Luciano Resende wrote: > One of the issues is that we keep using GSoC + year as tag, so we pretty > much discard all the previous years project ideas that are still open. I > think using something generic like GSoC would make our project idea look > bigger without muc

Re: increasing GSoC visibility within the ASF

2013-04-11 Thread Luciano Resende
On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 2:12 PM, Ross Gardler wrote: > Good point Luciano - we need to move to GSOC only - or better still > something not linked to GSoC, e.g. mentored. A search and a batch update > will do the job nicely. We can adjust our search to include GSoC, GSoC2013 > and mentored to catch

Re: increasing GSoC visibility within the ASF

2013-04-11 Thread Ross Gardler
Good point Luciano - we need to move to GSOC only - or better still something not linked to GSoC, e.g. mentored. A search and a batch update will do the job nicely. We can adjust our search to include GSoC, GSoC2013 and mentored to catch those who didn't do the update. Ross On 11 April 2013 17:0

Re: increasing GSoC visibility within the ASF

2013-04-11 Thread Ross Gardler
I think this is a good idea if you have the time. I'm certain the OpenMeetings project will be very happy to provide a teleconferencing solution. Ross On 11 April 2013 15:54, Suresh Marru wrote: > Lots of good thoughts already, and I agree with Ross it is the quality and > not quantity. > > Bu

Re: increasing GSoC visibility within the ASF

2013-04-11 Thread Rich Bowen
On Apr 11, 2013, at 12:07 PM, Luciano Resende wrote: > One of the issues is that we keep using GSoC + year as tag, so we pretty > much discard all the previous years project ideas that are still open. I > think using something generic like GSoC would make our project idea look > bigger without mu

Re: increasing GSoC visibility within the ASF

2013-04-11 Thread Luciano Resende
On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 7:38 AM, Ross Gardler wrote: > On 11 April 2013 14:23, Rich Bowen wrote: > > > > > On Apr 10, 2013, at 1:39 PM, Mark Struberg wrote: > > > > > + it's also pretty hard to spin of small enough tasks which can be done > > in a GSoC project. Most of our projects need some real

Re: increasing GSoC visibility within the ASF

2013-04-11 Thread Suresh Marru
On Apr 11, 2013, at 11:14 AM, Ulrich Stärk wrote: > On 11.04.2013 16:41, Ross Gardler wrote: >> On 11 April 2013 14:26, Ulrich Stärk wrote: >> >>> On 11.04.2013 15:17, Rich Bowen wrote: On Apr 10, 2013, at 1:39 PM, Mark Struberg wrote: > In this light, 33 is not that bad a

Re: increasing GSoC visibility within the ASF

2013-04-11 Thread Ulrich Stärk
On 11.04.2013 16:41, Ross Gardler wrote: > On 11 April 2013 14:26, Ulrich Stärk wrote: > >> On 11.04.2013 15:17, Rich Bowen wrote: >>> >>> On Apr 10, 2013, at 1:39 PM, Mark Struberg wrote: >>> In this light, 33 is not that bad a number. >>> >>> >>> How does that compare to past years? >>> >>

Re: increasing GSoC visibility within the ASF

2013-04-11 Thread Suresh Marru
Lots of good thoughts already, and I agree with Ross it is the quality and not quantity. But I think not all projects have the awareness and what they can get out of GSoC. There is a lot of good documentation as Uli and others have pointed out. PMC's have to be motivated to look at them. Emai

Re: increasing GSoC visibility within the ASF

2013-04-11 Thread Ross Gardler
On 11 April 2013 14:26, Ulrich Stärk wrote: > On 11.04.2013 15:17, Rich Bowen wrote: > > > > On Apr 10, 2013, at 1:39 PM, Mark Struberg wrote: > > > >> In this light, 33 is not that bad a number. > > > > > > How does that compare to past years? > > > > 27 in 2012, so about the same (the 33 also c

Re: increasing GSoC visibility within the ASF

2013-04-11 Thread Ross Gardler
On 11 April 2013 14:23, Rich Bowen wrote: > > On Apr 10, 2013, at 1:39 PM, Mark Struberg wrote: > > > + it's also pretty hard to spin of small enough tasks which can be done > in a GSoC project. Most of our projects need some really in-depth knowledge > prior to hacking a smallish task :/ > > > >

Re: increasing GSoC visibility within the ASF

2013-04-11 Thread Ulrich Stärk
3 months plus community bonding period, so yes, plenty of time to become familiar with the project and product. Uli On 11.04.2013 15:25, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 7:39 PM, Mark Struberg wrote: >> ...Most of our projects need some really in-depth knowledge prior to hac

Re: increasing GSoC visibility within the ASF

2013-04-11 Thread Rich Bowen
On Apr 11, 2013, at 9:23 AM, Rich Bowen wrote: > Looking forward to next year, it would be good for us to encourage projects > to have a GSoC tag in their ticket tracker to identify issues that would be > good candidates for students. The folks at OpenHatch recommend clearly > identifying tick

Re: increasing GSoC visibility within the ASF

2013-04-11 Thread Ulrich Stärk
On 11.04.2013 15:17, Rich Bowen wrote: > > On Apr 10, 2013, at 1:39 PM, Mark Struberg wrote: > >> In this light, 33 is not that bad a number. > > > How does that compare to past years? > 27 in 2012, so about the same (the 33 also contain some sub-projects). But at the same time the number of

Re: increasing GSoC visibility within the ASF

2013-04-11 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 7:39 PM, Mark Struberg wrote: > ...Most of our projects need some really in-depth knowledge prior to hacking > a smallish task :/... GSoC is 4 months of work IIRC, should be enough for more than a smallish task given capable students. -Bertrand

Re: increasing GSoC visibility within the ASF

2013-04-11 Thread Rich Bowen
On Apr 10, 2013, at 1:39 PM, Mark Struberg wrote: > + it's also pretty hard to spin of small enough tasks which can be done in a > GSoC project. Most of our projects need some really in-depth knowledge prior > to hacking a smallish task :/ Looking forward to next year, it would be good for u

Re: increasing GSoC visibility within the ASF

2013-04-11 Thread Rich Bowen
On Apr 10, 2013, at 1:39 PM, Mark Struberg wrote: > In this light, 33 is not that bad a number. How does that compare to past years? -- Rich Bowen rbo...@rcbowen.com :: @rbowen rbo...@apache.org

Re: increasing GSoC visibility within the ASF

2013-04-11 Thread Ulrich Stärk
Good idea. We already have most of it at [1] and [2] but the blog won't hurt. Uli [1] http://community.apache.org/gsoc.html [2] http://community.apache.org/gsoc-admin-tasks.html On 11.04.2013 10:53, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 7:26 PM, Ulrich Stärk wrote: >> ...what co

Re: increasing GSoC visibility within the ASF

2013-04-11 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 7:26 PM, Ulrich Stärk wrote: > ...what could we do to increase awareness for the opportunities GSoC offers > and that this program is > important to the foundation?... IMO, most of the communications that you currently send to pmcs@ could go to http://blogs.apache.org/com

Re: increasing GSoC visibility within the ASF

2013-04-10 Thread Ross Gardler
A short mail to committers@ asking people who don't know about the process to ensure their PMC forwards the request should be enough. Things won't scale if ComDev start trying to offer more support than we already do. Let's have the PMCs answer queries from their communities. Ross Sent from a mo

Re: increasing GSoC visibility within the ASF

2013-04-10 Thread John Theisen
unsubscribe On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 12:41 PM, Grant Ingersoll wrote: > > > On Apr 10, 2013, at 10:26 AM, Ulrich Stärk wrote: > >> Folks, >> >> I perceive a low interest of our projects in GSoC. The list of projects that >> submitted project ideas >> that I compiled for Sally contained 33 entries

Re: increasing GSoC visibility within the ASF

2013-04-10 Thread Grant Ingersoll
On Apr 10, 2013, at 10:26 AM, Ulrich Stärk wrote: > Folks, > > I perceive a low interest of our projects in GSoC. The list of projects that > submitted project ideas > that I compiled for Sally contained 33 entries of which some are subprojects > I believe. With 138 > PMCs plus 35 podlings, t

Re: increasing GSoC visibility within the ASF

2013-04-10 Thread Mark Struberg
nI > To: dev@community.apache.org > Cc: > Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 7:35 PM > Subject: Re: increasing GSoC visibility within the ASF > > On Apr 10, 2013 7:27 PM, "Ulrich Stärk" > wrote: >> >> Folks, >> >> I perceive a low interest

Re: increasing GSoC visibility within the ASF

2013-04-10 Thread Ulrich Stärk
On 10.04.2013 19:35, janI wrote: > On Apr 10, 2013 7:27 PM, "Ulrich Stärk" wrote: >> >> Folks, >> >> I perceive a low interest of our projects in GSoC. The list of projects > that submitted project ideas >> that I compiled for Sally contained 33 entries of which some are > subprojects I believe.

Re: increasing GSoC visibility within the ASF

2013-04-10 Thread janI
On Apr 10, 2013 7:27 PM, "Ulrich Stärk" wrote: > > Folks, > > I perceive a low interest of our projects in GSoC. The list of projects that submitted project ideas > that I compiled for Sally contained 33 entries of which some are subprojects I believe. With 138 > PMCs plus 35 podlings, this is les

increasing GSoC visibility within the ASF

2013-04-10 Thread Ulrich Stärk
Folks, I perceive a low interest of our projects in GSoC. The list of projects that submitted project ideas that I compiled for Sally contained 33 entries of which some are subprojects I believe. With 138 PMCs plus 35 podlings, this is less than one fifth of our projects. We only had 34 ideas o