RE: Summarizing thoughts on cordova-browser vs Ripple

2014-11-18 Thread Lunev, Serge
Thanks, Julian. Great summary! Best, Serge @lunarserge -Original Message- From: Horn, Julian C [mailto:julian.c.h...@intel.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 1:58 PM To: dev@cordova.apache.org Subject: RE: Summarizing thoughts on cordova-browser vs Ripple I'd like to answer so

RE: Summarizing thoughts on cordova-browser vs Ripple

2014-11-18 Thread Horn, Julian C
- From: Jesse [mailto:purplecabb...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 4:04 PM To: dev@cordova.apache.org Subject: Re: Summarizing thoughts on cordova-browser vs Ripple Shouldn't ripple be able to emulate/monkey-patch any of the platforms? If I am looking at and testing my cordova-ios app i

Re: Summarizing thoughts on cordova-browser vs Ripple

2014-11-18 Thread Jesse
XDK, that will be totally technically separate from its Cordova > > implementation. While this is a viable alternative, this just doesn't > smell > > right. > > > > Best, > > Serge Lunev > > Intel XDK Engineering Manager > > @lunarserge > >

Re: Summarizing thoughts on cordova-browser vs Ripple

2014-11-18 Thread Michal Mocny
ux > Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 9:26 AM > To: dev@cordova.apache.org > Subject: Re: Summarizing thoughts on cordova-browser vs Ripple > > I'm less interested in copying work being done faster/better in the > browser devtools. Certainly some UI abstractions are helpful

RE: Summarizing thoughts on cordova-browser vs Ripple

2014-11-18 Thread Lunev, Serge
ll right. Best, Serge Lunev Intel XDK Engineering Manager @lunarserge -Original Message- From: brian.ler...@gmail.com [mailto:brian.ler...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Brian LeRoux Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 9:26 AM To: dev@cordova.apache.org Subject: Re: Summarizing thoughts on cordova-br

Re: Summarizing thoughts on cordova-browser vs Ripple

2014-11-18 Thread Brian LeRoux
I'm less interested in copying work being done faster/better in the browser devtools. Certainly some UI abstractions are helpful (map controls, acceleromter scrubbing widget, etc) but the returns for dev time are diminishing for the effort to author/maintain. Esp bad considering we'd have to pick U

Re: Summarizing thoughts on cordova-browser vs Ripple

2014-11-18 Thread Michal Mocny
On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 9:57 AM, Ray Camden wrote: > > >> > >> On 11/15/14, 2:17 PM, "Michal Mocny" wrote: > >> > > >>Not at all. What is it you think we are proposing? I'm merely > >>suggesting > >that the cordova-browser camera plugin implementation shouldn't *also* > >come > >with a DOM com

Re: Summarizing thoughts on cordova-browser vs Ripple

2014-11-18 Thread Ray Camden
>> >> On 11/15/14, 2:17 PM, "Michal Mocny" wrote: >> >>Not at all. What is it you think we are proposing? I'm merely >>suggesting >that the cordova-browser camera plugin implementation shouldn't *also* >come >with a DOM component that sits over top of your application to manipulate >the camera

Re: Summarizing thoughts on cordova-browser vs Ripple

2014-11-17 Thread Michal Mocny
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 6:37 AM, Ray Camden wrote: > > > On 11/15/14, 2:17 PM, "Michal Mocny" wrote: > > >Ray, I think (hope) you are slightly misreading the distinction. Trying > >to > >rephrase: > > > >Ripple is an (optional) tool for mobile-device-emulation. It just happens > >to be impleme

Re: Summarizing thoughts on cordova-browser vs Ripple

2014-11-17 Thread Ray Camden
On 11/15/14, 2:17 PM, "Michal Mocny" wrote: >Ray, I think (hope) you are slightly misreading the distinction. Trying >to >rephrase: > >Ripple is an (optional) tool for mobile-device-emulation. It just happens >to be implemented in a browser, and yes has historically been used by devs >to run

Re: Summarizing thoughts on cordova-browser vs Ripple

2014-11-15 Thread Michal Mocny
Ray, I think (hope) you are slightly misreading the distinction. Trying to rephrase: Ripple is an (optional) tool for mobile-device-emulation. It just happens to be implemented in a browser, and yes has historically been used by devs to run cordova apps locally in a browser. But ripple does a l

Re: Summarizing thoughts on cordova-browser vs Ripple

2014-11-14 Thread Ray Camden
I¹m pretty late to responding to this thread, but I wanted to throw in a few comments. In the first msg, Michal Mocny said this: "Basically, browser-platform is for getting apps running in a browser (duh) with as much working functionality as possible. Its supposed to simplify the 'if cordova the

RE: Summarizing thoughts on cordova-browser vs Ripple

2014-11-14 Thread Horn, Julian C
ailto:agri...@google.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Grieve Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 4:07 AM To: dev Subject: Re: Summarizing thoughts on cordova-browser vs Ripple From reading this, seems like it could work well to have plugins provide both browser and ripple implementations. They could make them the

Re: Summarizing thoughts on cordova-browser vs Ripple

2014-11-14 Thread Andrew Grieve
But if they > at > > least provide a browser implementation then Ripple has something to fall > > back on. And if there's something better that can be done, we can always > > extend Ripple. > > > > Given that the biggest benefit of Ripple is to provide UI t

Re: Summarizing thoughts on cordova-browser vs Ripple

2014-11-10 Thread Michal Mocny
plugin authors would provide implementations -- but that is for what we know are classifying as cordova-browser implementations (even if just stubs / no-ops). > > Julian > > -Original Message- > From: Parashuram Narasimhan (MS OPEN TECH) [mailto:panar...@microsoft.com] >

RE: Summarizing thoughts on cordova-browser vs Ripple

2014-11-06 Thread Horn, Julian C
H) [mailto:panar...@microsoft.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2014 2:25 PM To: dev@cordova.apache.org Subject: RE: Summarizing thoughts on cordova-browser vs Ripple MSOpenTech is currently working on porting our ripple-platform prototype - https://github.com/MSOpenTech/cordova-ripple to work on to

Idea for simulating plugins for Cordova Browser [was: RE: Summarizing thoughts on cordova-browser vs Ripple]

2014-11-05 Thread Ali Satter
> From: panar...@microsoft.com > To: dev@cordova.apache.org > Subject: RE: Summarizing thoughts on cordova-browser vs Ripple > Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2014 19:24:44 + > > �MSOpenTech is currently working on porting our ripple-platform prototype - > https://github.com/MSOpenTech/cord

RE: Summarizing thoughts on cordova-browser vs Ripple

2014-11-05 Thread Parashuram Narasimhan (MS OPEN TECH)
. -Original Message- From: Kirupa Chinnathambi [mailto:kiru...@microsoft.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 5, 2014 11:04 AM To: dev@cordova.apache.org Subject: RE: Summarizing thoughts on cordova-browser vs Ripple +1 to what you’ve both stated. Cordova-browser shouldn't be responsibl

RE: Summarizing thoughts on cordova-browser vs Ripple

2014-11-05 Thread Kirupa Chinnathambi
would be external to that in some form or fashion. Cheers, Kirupa -Original Message- From: mikeywbro...@gmail.com [mailto:mikeywbro...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Michael Brooks Sent: Wednesday, November 5, 2014 9:22 AM To: dev@cordova.apache.org Subject: Re: Summarizing thoughts on cordova-br

Re: Summarizing thoughts on cordova-browser vs Ripple

2014-11-05 Thread Michael Brooks
> > In my view, ripple should be built on top of the browser platform work, and > ideally also decouple the UI from the plugin instrumentation, but thats up > to the folks running that effort. > With all this in mind, I think the cordova-browser effort should proceed > with current direction, b