Re: cordova 64-bit support

2014-11-10 Thread Michal Mocny
Our policy has historically been to drop support if usage is under 5%. There some amount of leeway in judgement here as well: is it trivial to continue support or causing us pain? For iOS, 5% of usage comes from iOS6 or below as reported by https://developer.apple.com/support/appstore/. I'd

Re: cordova 64-bit support

2014-11-10 Thread Ian Clelland
I know that's been our Android policy; I though that iOS was roughly we support the current release and the one previous release, which would mean that we're already good to start just supporting iOS 7 and 8 exclusively. (Not that it's a big difference -- a 1-month delay is about what it would

Re: cordova 64-bit support

2014-11-10 Thread Marcel Kinard
My customers still need iOS 6. Specifically the ones in the Asia-Pacific area. The feedback we are getting from there is that end users hold on the devices for longer periods than compared to North America / Europe, and they are also less likely to perform os upgrades even when available. Not

Re: cordova 64-bit support

2014-11-10 Thread Josh Soref
Marcel Kinard wrote: I suspect there will be many more questions around iOS 64-bit. I think it deserves a blog entry. Seems reasonable I've drafted one here: https://github.com/cordova/apache-blog-posts/blob/ios64bit/2014-11-11-ios- 64bit.md Feedback desired. I'd like to see this published in

Re: cordova 64-bit support

2014-11-10 Thread Shazron
We'll delay this decision for another time, in a proper thread without hijacking this one. On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 8:37 AM, Marcel Kinard cmarc...@gmail.com wrote: My customers still need iOS 6. Specifically the ones in the Asia-Pacific area. The feedback we are getting from there is that end

Re: cordova 64-bit support

2014-11-10 Thread Joe Bowser
+1 I think we really need more data. I know that in Marcel's case, there's the Asia-Pacific customer, but I have no idea how big that customer base is. The only numbers I have are the Play Store. and I think the same thing goes for iOS and the App Store. In Android's case, there's a lot of

Re: cordova 64-bit support

2014-11-09 Thread Terence M. Bandoian
It might make sense to consider dropping support for an iOS version when usage, as reported by Apple, drops below a certain level. -Terence Bandoian On 11/8/2014 5:13 PM, julio cesar sanchez wrote: iOS 5 support was removed on cordova 3.5, released on may 2014, I think it's too soon to

Re: cordova 64-bit support

2014-11-09 Thread julio cesar sanchez
Apple just says earlier 5%. That should be iOS 5 and iOS 6 El domingo, 9 de noviembre de 2014, Terence M. Bandoian tere...@tmbsw.com escribió: It might make sense to consider dropping support for an iOS version when usage, as reported by Apple, drops below a certain level. -Terence Bandoian

Re: cordova 64-bit support

2014-11-08 Thread julio cesar sanchez
iOS 5 support was removed on cordova 3.5, released on may 2014, I think it's too soon to remove iOS 6 support with all the devices left behind (iphone 3gs and ipod touch 4gen), just to add swift plugins. I'm ok with dropping support to old versions when there are real advantages or security

RE: cordova 64-bit support

2014-11-08 Thread Vadiraj V
00:45 To: dev@cordova.apache.org Subject: Re: cordova 64-bit support Yup. So the answer is: cordova-ios: 64 bit support since cordova-ios 3.4.1. Xcode 6 only support since cordova-ios 3.7.0. On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 11:04 AM, Marcel Kinard cmarc...@gmail.com wrote: I suspect Vidiraj's question

cordova 64-bit support

2014-11-07 Thread Vadiraj V
I would like to know if cordova supports 64-bit - if so, from which version it supports and any supporting documentation exists. Thanks. Regards, Vadiraj.

Re: cordova 64-bit support

2014-11-07 Thread Joe Bowser
Can you be more specific? I'm not sure what you're asking. On Fri Nov 07 2014 at 7:43:27 AM Vadiraj V vvadi...@kodiaknetworks.com wrote: I would like to know if cordova supports 64-bit - if so, from which version it supports and any supporting documentation exists. Thanks. Regards,

Re: cordova 64-bit support

2014-11-07 Thread Josh Soref
Vadiraj V wrote: I would like to know if cordova supports 64-bit - if so, from which version it supports and any supporting documentation exists. Thanks. Joe Bowser wrote: Can you be more specific? I'm not sure what you're asking.

Re: cordova 64-bit support

2014-11-07 Thread Ian Clelland
The question doesn't reference any particular platform, for one. Is this a Windows phone question? An iOS question? Android? Workstation? There's no actual answer to it, as stated. I totally agree that we should document which platforms support / require 64-bit binaries, along with what we

Re: cordova 64-bit support

2014-11-07 Thread Josh Soref
Ian Clelland wrote: The question doesn't reference any particular platform, for one. True Is this a Windows phone question? An iOS question? Android? Workstation? There's no actual answer to it, as stated. I see it as a documentation question. I think it's legitimate to ask about documenting

Re: cordova 64-bit support

2014-11-07 Thread Shazron
The 64 bit support on iOS is in the form of a fat binary that contains 32 bit and 64 bit code. This form of fat binary is only supported for iOS 5.1.1 and up, which is below our minimum support of iOS 6.0 in cordova-ios itself (which may be bumped up soon to 7.0 if there is consensus to do so).

Re: cordova 64-bit support

2014-11-07 Thread Marcel Kinard
I suspect Vidiraj's question was driven by this: https://developer.apple.com/news/?id=10202014a

Re: cordova 64-bit support

2014-11-07 Thread Shazron
Yup. So the answer is: cordova-ios: 64 bit support since cordova-ios 3.4.1. Xcode 6 only support since cordova-ios 3.7.0. On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 11:04 AM, Marcel Kinard cmarc...@gmail.com wrote: I suspect Vidiraj's question was driven by this: https://developer.apple.com/news/?id=10202014a

Re: cordova 64-bit support

2014-11-07 Thread julio cesar sanchez
what's the point of swift plugins? is there something that can't be done with objective-c and need swift? I think iOS 6 support is more important that the swift plugins 2014-11-07 20:14 GMT+01:00 Shazron shaz...@gmail.com: Yup. So the answer is: cordova-ios: 64 bit support since cordova-ios

Re: cordova 64-bit support

2014-11-07 Thread Shazron
Like it or not, it is the future of Apple's ecosystem. A lot of people will differ on the wanting to keep iOS 6 support. But we've regularly only supported only the latest, plus the previous - and it's a resources issue. If you want to volunteer testing everything on iOS 6 devices for each