Re: [documentation-dev] Working with native lang communities

2006-09-28 Thread Alex Thurgood
G. Roderick Singleton wrote: Hi Ger, Perhaps I could add my 2c to this interesting exchange of ideas. Could you explain one thing about these, please? I am missing the point of having a card for something that I would guess is not done often. In other words, why not an ordinary HOW-TO? We

Re: [documentation-dev] Working with native lang communities

2006-09-28 Thread G. Roderick Singleton
On Thu, 2006-09-28 at 12:54 +0200, Sophie Gautier wrote: > Hi Frank, all [snipped] > The difficulty is the language barrier. Most of our authors don't speak > or write English. However, I think that ideas or new concepts of > documentation could be shared. If I take the example of this work in

Re: [documentation-dev] Working with native lang communities

2006-09-28 Thread G. Roderick Singleton
On Thu, 2006-09-28 at 22:01 +0200, Andreas Mantke wrote: > Hello, > > Am Donnerstag, 28. September 2006 13:57 schrieb Frank Peters: > > >> one thing that I noticed while talking to people > (...) > > > > The difficulty is the language barrier. Most of our authors > > > don't speak or write Englis

Re: [documentation-dev] New to TW & OO

2006-09-28 Thread G. Roderick Singleton
On Thu, 2006-09-28 at 11:10 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hello all: > > I’m a complete newbie to the world of Technical Writing. I’ve been > reading as much about the subject on the Web as I can, literally day > and night, and I’ve purchased a couple of TW books. I’m taking a TW > class at a

Re: [documentation-dev] Working with native lang communities

2006-09-28 Thread Andreas Mantke
Hello, Am Donnerstag, 28. September 2006 13:57 schrieb Frank Peters: > >> one thing that I noticed while talking to people (...) > > The difficulty is the language barrier. Most of our authors > > don't speak or write English. However, I think that ideas or > > new concepts of documentation could

Re: [documentation-dev] Working with native lang communities

2006-09-28 Thread Bernhard Dippold
Hi Frank, all, Frank Peters schrieb: [...] Frank Peters wrote before: - How can we make sure that both docs and native lang projects benefit from each other's docs efforts? [...] So my idea would be to find some process that allows the communities to act independenly, yet still in a co

[documentation-dev] New to TW & OO

2006-09-28 Thread tonytur
Hello all: I’m a complete newbie to the world of Technical Writing. I’ve been reading as much about the subject on the Web as I can, literally day and night, and I’ve purchased a couple of TW books. I’m taking a TW class at a local university in the spring. Although my present job with the Feds

Re: [documentation-dev] Who wants to write up a Developer Guide?

2006-09-28 Thread Frank Peters
G. Roderick Singleton wrote: What is this? Frank if you want details, ask offline. All I will say to this is that I would like OOo to have its own DevGuide and other documents as well and avoid problems. So please explain offline. I'd like to understand. [...] Well this would be good. If

Re: [documentation-dev] Who wants to write up a Developer Guide?

2006-09-28 Thread G. Roderick Singleton
On Thu, 2006-09-28 at 15:23 +0200, Frank Peters wrote: > G. Roderick Singleton wrote: > > >> G. Roderick Singleton wrote: > >>> There seems to be some problems with the current DevGuide that are > >>> political and proprietary in nature. Sun produces this guide. While this > >> can you please elab

Re: [documentation-dev] Working with native lang communities

2006-09-28 Thread G. Roderick Singleton
On Thu, 2006-09-28 at 12:54 +0200, Sophie Gautier wrote: > Hi Frank, all > > Frank Peters wrote: > > Hi, > > > > one thing that I noticed while talking to people > > on OOoCon2006 in Lyon is that there is a *lot* of > > writing potential in some native language groups. > > > > Particularly the G

Re: [documentation-dev] Who wants to write up a Developer Guide?

2006-09-28 Thread Frank Peters
G. Roderick Singleton wrote: G. Roderick Singleton wrote: There seems to be some problems with the current DevGuide that are political and proprietary in nature. Sun produces this guide. While this can you please elaborate? What kind of problems? Are you sure you want to know? I do not think

Re: [documentation-dev] Working with native lang communities

2006-09-28 Thread G. Roderick Singleton
On Thu, 2006-09-28 at 12:08 +0200, Frank Peters wrote: > Hi, > > one thing that I noticed while talking to people > on OOoCon2006 in Lyon is that there is a *lot* of > writing potential in some native language groups. > > Particularly the German (de) and French (fr) groups > apparently are very p

Re: [documentation-dev] Who wants to write up a Developer Guide?

2006-09-28 Thread G. Roderick Singleton
On Thu, 2006-09-28 at 11:43 +0200, Frank Peters wrote: > Gerry, > > G. Roderick Singleton wrote: > > There seems to be some problems with the current DevGuide that are > > political and proprietary in nature. Sun produces this guide. While this > > can you please elaborate? What kind of problems?

Re: [documentation-dev] Who wants to write up a Developer Guide?

2006-09-28 Thread G. Roderick Singleton
On Thu, 2006-09-28 at 11:26 +0200, Frank Peters wrote: > Bernhard Dippold wrote: > > Hi Gerry, > > > > G. Roderick Singleton schrieb: > >> There seems to be some problems with the current DevGuide that are > >> political and proprietary in nature. Sun produces this guide. [...] > > > > If I under

Re: [documentation-dev] Working with native lang communities

2006-09-28 Thread Frank Peters
one thing that I noticed while talking to people on OOoCon2006 in Lyon is that there is a *lot* of writing potential in some native language groups. Particularly the German (de) and French (fr) groups apparently are very productive. I think I can answer some of your points :-) Thanks Sophie,

Re: [documentation-dev] Working with native lang communities

2006-09-28 Thread Sophie Gautier
Hi Frank, all Frank Peters wrote: Hi, one thing that I noticed while talking to people on OOoCon2006 in Lyon is that there is a *lot* of writing potential in some native language groups. Particularly the German (de) and French (fr) groups apparently are very productive. I think I can answer

[documentation-dev] Working with native lang communities

2006-09-28 Thread Frank Peters
Hi, one thing that I noticed while talking to people on OOoCon2006 in Lyon is that there is a *lot* of writing potential in some native language groups. Particularly the German (de) and French (fr) groups apparently are very productive. Thinking about that, the following questions come to my mi

Re: [documentation-dev] Who wants to write up a Developer Guide?

2006-09-28 Thread Laurent Godard
Hi Frank I confess that some of the tasks depend on Sun open sourcing the guides and I apologize for the delays but I can assure you that we're working on this. thanks for your clear responses for extensions and starter guides, i proposed earlier the extensions project wiki as a starting p

Re: [documentation-dev] Who wants to write up a Developer Guide?

2006-09-28 Thread Frank Peters
Gerry, G. Roderick Singleton wrote: There seems to be some problems with the current DevGuide that are political and proprietary in nature. Sun produces this guide. While this can you please elaborate? What kind of problems? guide has a five year head start, it seems to me that we might be a

Re: [documentation-dev] Who wants to write up a Developer Guide?

2006-09-28 Thread Frank Peters
Bernhard Dippold wrote: Hi Gerry, G. Roderick Singleton schrieb: There seems to be some problems with the current DevGuide that are political and proprietary in nature. Sun produces this guide. [...] If I understood one of the Sun guys correctly at Lyon (wasn't it you, Frank?), the license o

Re: [documentation-dev] Who wants to write up a Developer Guide?

2006-09-28 Thread Frank Peters
Best place to reach these very busy fellows is via the on-line help list. That one they monitor for sure. Not so sure about this one. Be sure now ;-) Frank - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands,

Re: [documentation-dev] Help files in software vs users guides

2006-09-28 Thread Frank Peters
It looks like we need to have a definition of the term "online help" here. "Online help" designates the help that is delivered with the product. It is misleading insofar that the help is not online as in "in the web". Sorry for the confusion, we got used to using the term "online help" for the ap