RE: Flex Showcase legal aspects

2013-12-19 Thread Kessler CTR Mark J
-Original Message- From: Alex Harui [mailto:aha...@adobe.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2013 11:33 AM To: dev@flex.apache.org Subject: Re: Flex Showcase legal aspects IMO, it is not a good idea to violate copyright and trademark law and wait to see if you get caught, even if the remedy

Re: Flex Showcase legal aspects

2013-12-19 Thread Alex Harui
@flex.apache.org Subject: Re: Flex Showcase legal aspects IMO, it is not a good idea to violate copyright and trademark law and wait to see if you get caught, even if the remedy is simple. If you are a famous celebrity and happen to buy a particular brand of clothing and someone sees you wearing

Re: Flex Showcase legal aspects

2013-12-19 Thread Erik de Bruin
To: dev@flex.apache.org Subject: Re: Flex Showcase legal aspects IMO, it is not a good idea to violate copyright and trademark law and wait to see if you get caught, even if the remedy is simple. If you are a famous celebrity and happen to buy a particular brand of clothing and someone sees you

Flex Showcase legal aspects

2013-12-18 Thread Maurice Amsellem
Hi, A few app submissions (eg. 6play https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLEX-34005 ) are made by what looks like developers sub-contracting for another company. Do you think there is a legal issue to include these apps (eg. the screenshots) without the permission of the owning company (m6

Re: Flex Showcase legal aspects

2013-12-18 Thread Erick Ghaumez
Hi, i’m working on this project, and since it’s a public website, i think it’s absolutly not illegal to display screenshots. Erick Le 18 déc. 2013 à 13:34, Maurice Amsellem maurice.amsel...@systar.com a écrit : Hi, A few app submissions (eg. 6play

RE: Flex Showcase legal aspects

2013-12-18 Thread Maurice Amsellem
Thanks, Eric, But Apache tends to wary about legal stuff, so I prefer to ask for team advice. Maurice -Message d'origine- De : rx labz [mailto:rxl...@gmail.com] De la part de Erick Ghaumez Envoyé : mercredi 18 décembre 2013 13:39 À : dev@flex.apache.org Objet : Re: Flex Showcase legal

Re: Flex Showcase legal aspects

2013-12-18 Thread Alex Harui
...@gmail.com] De la part de Erick Ghaumez Envoyé : mercredi 18 décembre 2013 13:39 À : dev@flex.apache.org Objet : Re: Flex Showcase legal aspects Hi, i'm working on this project, and since it's a public website, i think it's absolutly not illegal to display screenshots. Erick Le 18 déc. 2013 à 13:34

RE: Flex Showcase legal aspects

2013-12-18 Thread Maurice Amsellem
: Flex Showcase legal aspects We can ask on legal-discuss if you want to be certain, but I would guess the answer is yes, we need permission from the owner. But Erick is probably not wrong about the taking of screenshots either. My thought experiment is this: If I was hired to paint the outside

Re: Flex Showcase legal aspects

2013-12-18 Thread Erick Ghaumez
to ask for team advice. Maurice -Message d'origine- De : rx labz [mailto:rxl...@gmail.com] De la part de Erick Ghaumez Envoyé : mercredi 18 décembre 2013 13:39 À : dev@flex.apache.org Objet : Re: Flex Showcase legal aspects Hi, i'm working on this project, and since it's

RE: Flex Showcase legal aspects

2013-12-18 Thread Maurice Amsellem
À : dev@flex.apache.org Objet : Re: Flex Showcase legal aspects I obviously understand these legal doubts, but IMHO for the use of this 3 screenshots, it will be endless. What kind of permission can be legal ? Is there a template document somewhere ? I can ask to the M6Web's CTO ( M6Web

RE: Flex Showcase legal aspects

2013-12-18 Thread Kessler CTR Mark J
Maybe we should add them in good faith of being in compliance with the screen shots and just remove any based on valid take down requests from the owners. -Mark

RE: Flex Showcase legal aspects

2013-12-18 Thread Maurice Amsellem
décembre 2013 16:11 À : dev@flex.apache.org Objet : RE: Flex Showcase legal aspects Maybe we should add them in good faith of being in compliance with the screen shots and just remove any based on valid take down requests from the owners. -Mark

Re: Flex Showcase legal aspects

2013-12-18 Thread Alex Harui
the owners. Also what I think. thanks -Message d'origine- De : Kessler CTR Mark J [mailto:mark.kessler@usmc.mil] Envoyé : mercredi 18 décembre 2013 16:11 À : dev@flex.apache.org Objet : RE: Flex Showcase legal aspects Maybe we should add them in good faith of being in compliance

RE: Flex Showcase legal aspects

2013-12-18 Thread Maurice Amsellem
 : dev@flex.apache.org Objet : Re: Flex Showcase legal aspects IMO, it is not a good idea to violate copyright and trademark law and wait to see if you get caught, even if the remedy is simple. If you are a famous celebrity and happen to buy a particular brand of clothing and someone sees you

Re: Flex Showcase legal aspects

2013-12-18 Thread Alex Harui
waiting for the legal stuff to be fixed.? Maurice -Message d'origine- De : Alex Harui [mailto:aha...@adobe.com] Envoyé : mercredi 18 décembre 2013 17:33 À : dev@flex.apache.org Objet : Re: Flex Showcase legal aspects IMO, it is not a good idea to violate copyright and trademark law and wait

Re: Flex Showcase legal aspects

2013-12-18 Thread Alex Harui
. Maurice -Message d'origine- De : rx labz [mailto:rxl...@gmail.com] De la part de Erick Ghaumez Envoyé : mercredi 18 décembre 2013 13:39 À : dev@flex.apache.org Objet : Re: Flex Showcase legal aspects Hi, i'm working on this project, and since it's a public website, i think it's

RE: Flex Showcase legal aspects

2013-12-18 Thread Maurice Amsellem
Done. (bot update pending) -Message d'origine- De : Alex Harui [mailto:aha...@adobe.com] Envoyé : mercredi 18 décembre 2013 17:49 À : dev@flex.apache.org Objet : Re: Flex Showcase legal aspects Yes, that would probably be the safe thing to do. Thanks and sorry for the hassle, -Alex

Re: Flex Showcase legal aspects

2013-12-18 Thread Erick Ghaumez
to wary about legal stuff, so I prefer to ask for team advice. Maurice -Message d'origine- De : rx labz [mailto:rxl...@gmail.com] De la part de Erick Ghaumez Envoyé : mercredi 18 décembre 2013 13:39 À : dev@flex.apache.org Objet : Re: Flex Showcase legal aspects Hi, i'm

Re: Flex Showcase legal aspects

2013-12-18 Thread Alex Harui
On 12/18/13 12:22 PM, Erick Ghaumez er...@rxlabz.com wrote: As I¹ve said, the owner is « big » TV group, my contract is with a subsidiary company in charge of digital projects. I don¹t know if the one who signs my contract is legally authorized to give this permission. But if I understand, if he

Re: Flex Showcase legal aspects

2013-12-18 Thread Nicholas Kwiatkowski
d'origine- De : rx labz [mailto:rxl...@gmail.com] De la part de Erick Ghaumez Envoyé : mercredi 18 décembre 2013 13:39 À : dev@flex.apache.org Objet : Re: Flex Showcase legal aspects Hi, i'm working on this project, and since it's a public website, i think it's absolutly

Re: Flex Showcase legal aspects

2013-12-18 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, Under US law there is also a fair use provision, which the showcase would probably come under (and permission is not required), but it IMO always best to ask. Thanks, Justin

RE: Flex Showcase legal aspects

2013-12-18 Thread Maurice Amsellem
 : mercredi 18 décembre 2013 23:14 À : dev@flex.apache.org Objet : Re: Flex Showcase legal aspects Hi, Under US law there is also a fair use provision, which the showcase would probably come under (and permission is not required), but it IMO always best to ask. Thanks, Justin

Re: Flex Showcase legal aspects

2013-12-18 Thread Erick Ghaumez
@flex.apache.org Objet : Re: Flex Showcase legal aspects Hi, Under US law there is also a fair use provision, which the showcase would probably come under (and permission is not required), but it IMO always best to ask. Thanks, Justin

RE: Flex Showcase legal aspects

2013-12-18 Thread Maurice Amsellem
. Maurice -Message d'origine- De : rx labz [mailto:rxl...@gmail.com] De la part de Erick Ghaumez Envoyé : mercredi 18 décembre 2013 23:35 À : dev@flex.apache.org Objet : Re: Flex Showcase legal aspects Maybe i can blur all the logos and pictures in screenshots, and maybe the title can only talk

Re: Flex Showcase legal aspects

2013-12-18 Thread Nicholas Kwiatkowski
Fair Use is pretty limited in the USA, and is usually regarded in terms of education or personal use. Advertisement is generally not allowed under fair-use but again, that is something for the legal-beagles to determine ;) -Nick On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 5:14 PM, Justin Mclean

Re: Flex Showcase legal aspects

2013-12-18 Thread Jeffry Houser
To counter your point about commercial use never being fair use:; I'll quote TechDirt ( http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20131125/10182325360/beastie-boys-say-they-dont-want-music-ads-fair-use-doesnt-care.shtml ) quoting a Supreme Court ruling (

Re: Flex Showcase legal aspects

2013-12-18 Thread Alex Harui
-Message d'origine- De : rx labz [mailto:rxl...@gmail.com] De la part de Erick Ghaumez Envoyé : mercredi 18 décembre 2013 23:35 À : dev@flex.apache.org Objet : Re: Flex Showcase legal aspects Maybe i can blur all the logos and pictures in screenshots, and maybe the title can only talk about