Re: Thoughts on using FM with Transformy (Was: Using Social Media to Help Promote Freemarker)

2017-01-07 Thread Christoph Rüger
2017-01-07 22:56 GMT+01:00 Daniel Dekany : > I have changed the subject so that we don't pollute the social media > thread... See my comments below. > > > Saturday, January 7, 2017, 9:01:06 PM, Christoph Rüger wrote: > [snip] > >> For example, apparently, you have hard time > >> dealing with null-

Re: FreeMarker Project Maturity Model Assessment

2017-01-07 Thread Jacques Le Roux
The Confluence version at the ASF works well now. It's a reliable WYSIWG version. One of the big advantages of Confluence is it allows finely grained permissions. This is not only useful with spam. Another advantage is it has, even at the ASF, a lot of available plugins This said it can be so

Thoughts on using FM with Transformy (Was: Using Social Media to Help Promote Freemarker)

2017-01-07 Thread Daniel Dekany
I have changed the subject so that we don't pollute the social media thread... See my comments below. Saturday, January 7, 2017, 9:01:06 PM, Christoph Rüger wrote: [snip] >> For example, apparently, you have hard time >> dealing with null-s in your application (lot of `exp!`-s everywhere), >> so

Re: Using Social Media to Help Promote Freemarker

2017-01-07 Thread Daniel Dekany
On more thing... the hard part in an evaluator tool is defining the data-model. On freemarker-online that's a very limited due to security reasons. In a tool that the user runs on his on computer though, it's not a problem to allow defining values in Groovy for example. Saturday, January 7, 2017,

Re: FreeMarker Project Maturity Model Assessment

2017-01-07 Thread Michael Brohl
I suggest to use a tool we have easy access to, which provides enough functionality to collaborate and can "grow" with the requirements. It think Confluence will fit these requirements (I'm not a big fan either). Regards, Michael > Am 07.01.2017 um 21:10 schrieb Christoph Rüger : > > What I a

Re: FreeMarker Project Maturity Model Assessment

2017-01-07 Thread Christoph Rüger
What I am talking about at github is the wiki. But it needs to be enabled first in the settings.. [image: Inline-Bild 2] Regarding confluence: We use it too, and the one thing I really like about it , is the ability to paste images from the clip board and they are automatically uploaded. but we us

Re: FreeMarker Project Maturity Model Assessment

2017-01-07 Thread Jacopo Cappellato
On Sat, Jan 7, 2017 at 8:36 PM, Daniel Dekany wrote: > Does Confluence work well for developer topics though? Because I guess > we will want to use it for FM3. I had to use it on workplace, a > relatively old version, and it was a nightmare because it gets > confused by the odd stuff we programme

Re: Using Social Media to Help Promote Freemarker

2017-01-07 Thread Christoph Rüger
Hi Daniel, 2017-01-07 17:19 GMT+01:00 Daniel Dekany : > Saturday, January 7, 2017, 2:38:16 PM, Christoph Rüger wrote: > > > regarding promoting freemarker: > > We are already doing that in our Cloud-Data-platform where you can > > use freemarker to do almost anything to transform, map and manip

Re: FreeMarker Project Maturity Model Assessment

2017-01-07 Thread Daniel Dekany
Does Confluence work well for developer topics though? Because I guess we will want to use it for FM3. I had to use it on workplace, a relatively old version, and it was a nightmare because it gets confused by the odd stuff we programmers write... and yes, there are some escaping rules and all, but

Re: Using Social Media to Help Promote Freemarker

2017-01-07 Thread Daniel Dekany
Saturday, January 7, 2017, 6:55:14 PM, Jacopo Cappellato wrote: > On Sat, Jan 7, 2017 at 6:45 PM, Daniel Dekany wrote: > >> [...] >> Also, a separate project (again, still under the umbrella of >> FreeMarker and Apache) means that you can do releases independently of >> the FreeMarker (the engine

Re: FreeMarker Project Maturity Model Assessment

2017-01-07 Thread Christoph Rüger
What about the github pages / wiki? Would bring code and documentation close together. Am 07.01.2017 7:17 nachm. schrieb "Jacques Le Roux" < jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com>: > I'd prefer Confluence as we have experience with it in the OFBiz team > > My 2cts > > Jacques > > > Le 07/01/2017 à 18:49,

Re: FreeMarker Project Maturity Model Assessment

2017-01-07 Thread Jacques Le Roux
I'd prefer Confluence as we have experience with it in the OFBiz team My 2cts Jacques Le 07/01/2017 à 18:49, Jacopo Cappellato a écrit : On Sat, Jan 7, 2017 at 6:47 PM, Daniel Dekany wrote: We have never requested a wiki from infra... so I as far as know we don't have it yet. Should we r

Re: Using Social Media to Help Promote Freemarker

2017-01-07 Thread Jacopo Cappellato
On Sat, Jan 7, 2017 at 6:45 PM, Daniel Dekany wrote: > [...] > Also, a separate project (again, still under the umbrella of > FreeMarker and Apache) means that you can do releases independently of > the FreeMarker (the engine) project releases. > > Just to clarify: I guess you are talking about a

Re: FreeMarker Project Maturity Model Assessment

2017-01-07 Thread Jacopo Cappellato
On Sat, Jan 7, 2017 at 6:47 PM, Daniel Dekany wrote: > We have never requested a wiki from infra... so I as far as know we > don't have it yet. Should we request one? It can be useful to work together on a shared document like in this case. Suggestions/proposals/preferences? Jacopo

Re: PPMC members, please check our January Poddling Report!

2017-01-07 Thread Jacopo Cappellato
I would like to highlight that FreeMarker is, at the moment, the only project in this batch of reports for which all mentors had signed it off. Thank you! Jacopo

Re: FreeMarker Project Maturity Model Assessment

2017-01-07 Thread Daniel Dekany
We have never requested a wiki from infra... so I as far as know we don't have it yet. Saturday, January 7, 2017, 6:41:12 PM, Michael Brohl wrote: > Hi Jacopo, > > I would be happy to help setting up a wiki page for the maturity model. > > Where should we post this? At a first glance, I cannot f

Re: Using Social Media to Help Promote Freemarker

2017-01-07 Thread Daniel Dekany
Saturday, January 7, 2017, 4:37:12 PM, Denis Bredelet wrote: [snip] >> These are some getting started examples. What are your ideas about the >> final product? > > I am thinking of adding a « main » function in the FreeMarker JAR > to load a template and a model (as XML or properties, that is why

Re: FreeMarker Project Maturity Model Assessment

2017-01-07 Thread Michael Brohl
Hi Jacopo, I would be happy to help setting up a wiki page for the maturity model. Where should we post this? At a first glance, I cannot find a wiki. Any hint is appreciated. Regards, Michael Am 07.01.17 um 16:55 schrieb Jacopo Cappellato: Hi all, in preparation to the FreeMarker projec

Re: Using Social Media to Help Promote Freemarker

2017-01-07 Thread Daniel Dekany
Saturday, January 7, 2017, 2:38:16 PM, Christoph Rüger wrote: > regarding promoting freemarker: > We are already doing that in our Cloud-Data-platform where you can > use freemarker to do almost anything to transform, map and manipulate data. > We use it for our own application too (all template

FreeMarker Project Maturity Model Assessment

2017-01-07 Thread Jacopo Cappellato
Hi all, in preparation to the FreeMarker project's graduation, it would be useful to prepare the Project Maturity Model Assessment. For more information on the Project Maturity Model see: http://community.apache.org/apache-way/apache-project-maturity-model.html This is an example of the answers

Re: Using Social Media to Help Promote Freemarker

2017-01-07 Thread Taher Alkhateeb
Hi Denis, Perhaps we can do that in Gradle since talk was going in another thread of making a switch. I'm working on a first draft. On Jan 7, 2017 6:37 PM, "Denis Bredelet" wrote: > Le 7 janv. 2017 à 12:36, Daniel Dekany a écrit : > > Saturday, January 7, 2017, 9:37:36 AM, Denis Bredelet wrot

Re: Using Social Media to Help Promote Freemarker

2017-01-07 Thread Denis Bredelet
> Le 7 janv. 2017 à 12:36, Daniel Dekany a écrit : > > Saturday, January 7, 2017, 9:37:36 AM, Denis Bredelet wrote: > >> Hi Daniel, >> That was also my impression on the OFBiz tweet, as a software developer. The last is important, that I'm looking at it as a developer. FreeMarke

Re: Using Social Media to Help Promote Freemarker

2017-01-07 Thread Christoph Rüger
regarding promoting freemarker: We are already doing that in our Cloud-Data-platform where you can use freemarker to do almost anything to transform, map and manipulate data. We use it for our own application too (all templates) but we also have chosen Freemarker as the main internal scripting lan

Re: Using Social Media to Help Promote Freemarker

2017-01-07 Thread Daniel Dekany
Saturday, January 7, 2017, 9:37:36 AM, Denis Bredelet wrote: > Hi Daniel, > >>> That was also my impression on the OFBiz tweet, as a software >>> developer. The last is important, that I'm looking at it as a >>> developer. FreeMarker, unless OFBiz, is mostly only interesting for >>> them I believe

Re: About a Freemarker template evaluator service

2017-01-07 Thread Daniel Dekany
Thanks, looks good to me! I have added a comment regarding the resource needs: Regarding the resource requirements... My guess is that it will run fine with 256 MB RAM and a few GB of HDD (Linux "core" + Java, some application logs). As of the CPU, I think we will almost always run fine w

Re: About a Freemarker template evaluator service

2017-01-07 Thread Jacques Le Roux
Done at https://issues.apache.org/jira/servicedesk/customer/portal/1/INFRA-13246 feel free to comment/modify/improve Jacques Le 05/01/2017 à 22:33, Jacques Le Roux a écrit : Hi Jacopo, Yes I'll try to discuss it with the infra team tomorrow, at least this weekend... Jacques Le 04/01/201

Re: Using Social Media to Help Promote Freemarker

2017-01-07 Thread Jacopo Cappellato
On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 9:06 PM, Sharan Foga wrote: > [...] Anyway - we could maybe look at trying to do something over a short > timeframe (like a POC) to see how it works... :-) What do people think? > I like the idea of running an experiment to increase the activity in Twitter and slowly b

Re: Completing the copyright footer of the FreeMarker website

2017-01-07 Thread Jacopo Cappellato
On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 8:55 PM, Daniel Dekany wrote: > I have added the trademark notice to the footer (see on > http://freemarker.org/). I have removed the "All rights reserved." > part, as it weren't used on the OFBiz page either. (The Manual wasn't > regenerated, so it's footer is not update..

Re: Using Social Media to Help Promote Freemarker

2017-01-07 Thread Jacopo Cappellato
Hi Denis, welcome! Please see inline: On Sat, Jan 7, 2017 at 9:37 AM, Denis Bredelet wrote: > I am thinking of contributing a very simple UI for FreeMarker. Something > able to read a single template and process it with a datamodel pulled from > various sources (user interface window, propertie

Re: Using Social Media to Help Promote Freemarker

2017-01-07 Thread Denis Bredelet
Hi Daniel, >> That was also my impression on the OFBiz tweet, as a software >> developer. The last is important, that I'm looking at it as a >> developer. FreeMarker, unless OFBiz, is mostly only interesting for >> them I believe. It doesn't have an UI that a manager type could click >> around. It