Re: Preparation for M4 -- jetty vs tomcat or jetty and tomcat (two builds)

2005-07-09 Thread sissonj
Aaron Mulder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 08/07/2005 01:59:38 PM: > On Thu, 7 Jul 2005, David Blevins wrote: > > I was going for a pick one response. As in: > > > > 1) Separate builds (one jetty build and one tomcat build) > > 2) One build (both jetty and tomcat in the same build) with jetty

Re: Preparation for M4

2005-07-09 Thread sissonj
Dain, I sent a mail to the cglib project asking for them to post their jar to the maven repo, but I haven't got any response. Does anyone have direct contact with someone who can do this? http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_id=7622906&forum_id=12922 John Dain Sundstrom <[EMAI

Re: Preparation for M4

2005-07-09 Thread Jacek Laskowski
Sing Li wrote: First example, apache-fied, maven'ized, tested, and attached as JIRA patch at: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GERONIMO-730 Second example, at: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GERONIMO-731 Thanks for the examples. I'll be looking into them and applying soon. I'm wo

Re: Preparation for M4

2005-07-08 Thread Sing Li
First example, apache-fied, maven'ized, tested, and attached as JIRA patch at: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GERONIMO-730 Second example, at: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GERONIMO-731 I'm working on converting the third one, EAR with CMP EJB (EJB QL). But don't know what to do w

Re: Preparation for M4 -- jetty vs tomcat or jetty and tomcat (two builds)

2005-07-08 Thread Davanum Srinivas
+1 On 7/8/05, Alan D. Cabrera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > David Blevins wrote, On 7/7/2005 8:51 PM: > > > 1) Separate builds (one jetty build and one tomcat build) > > > > > +1 > > > 2) One build (both jetty and tomcat in the same build) with jetty as > > default. > > > > > > Regards, > Alan

Re: Preparation for M4 -- jetty vs tomcat or jetty and tomcat (two builds)

2005-07-08 Thread Alan D. Cabrera
David Blevins wrote, On 7/7/2005 8:51 PM: 1) Separate builds (one jetty build and one tomcat build) +1 2) One build (both jetty and tomcat in the same build) with jetty as default. Regards, Alan

Re: Preparation for M4 -- jetty vs tomcat or jetty and tomcat (two builds)

2005-07-08 Thread Jacek Laskowski
David Blevins wrote: 1) Separate builds (one jetty build and one tomcat build) +1. It is because people won't have to change anything to start working with Geronimo. When they've got more comfortable with it, they surely will build it themselves and choose whatever they wish. -David

Re: Preparation for M4 -- jetty vs tomcat or jetty and tomcat (two builds)

2005-07-07 Thread David Jencks
Wont you have to change both the runtime and builder parts, thus needing 2 edits? Also, the standalone deployer is in just one plan how would you switch the builder in it? I like this idea best so far, so despite these problems I hope we can find a way to make it work. david jencks On J

Re: Preparation for M4 -- jetty vs tomcat or jetty and tomcat (two builds)

2005-07-07 Thread Jeff Genender
Here is an idea for #2 If we pull Jetty out into its own plan...the user just needs to edit the config.list file. The j2ee-server-jetty-plan.xml can be the default in the config.list...with j2ee-server-tomcat-plan.xml commented out. If the user wants to swap, they just edit the config.li

Re: Preparation for M4 -- jetty vs tomcat or jetty and tomcat (two builds)

2005-07-07 Thread Jeff Genender
+1 for #1. If you go for #2...we need to make it easy to comment/uncomment, etc. IMHO, the less technically astute will not like option #2...as they won't necessarily like to have to build an assembly. OTOH, if there is a way to easily activate one or the other via a config file w/o the need

Re: Preparation for M4 -- jetty vs tomcat or jetty and tomcat (two builds)

2005-07-07 Thread Aaron Mulder
On Thu, 7 Jul 2005, David Blevins wrote: > I was going for a pick one response. As in: > > 1) Separate builds (one jetty build and one tomcat build) > 2) One build (both jetty and tomcat in the same build) with jetty as default. I vote "whatever's easiest" -- you'll get both options bo

Re: Preparation for M4 -- jetty vs tomcat or jetty and tomcat (two builds)

2005-07-07 Thread David Blevins
On Tue, Jul 05, 2005 at 10:32:03AM +0200, Jacek Laskowski wrote: > David Blevins wrote: > > >So what does the group want? > > > > 1) Separate builds > > 2) Jetty as the default > > Both tested against TCK. I was going for a pick one response. As in: 1) Separate builds (one jetty build and

Re: [CONSENSUS?] Preparation for M4 -- branch early

2005-07-06 Thread Aaron Mulder
On Tue, 5 Jul 2005, Jeremy Boynes wrote: > TranQL is a Codehaus project so it is down to the despots, currently me. > The barrier to entry is not high but so far I've not seen anything > except that problematic patch. Okay, sorry. It's clear I misunderstood the relationship between the

Re: [CONSENSUS?] Preparation for M4 -- branch early

2005-07-05 Thread Gianny Damour
On 6/07/2005 6:23 AM, Aaron Mulder wrote: On Tue, 5 Jul 2005, Jeremy Boynes wrote: I didn't -1 it, I said it wasn't a pre-req, as in I think we can release M4 without it. As for a technical reason, where's the code? Last I saw was a patch for TranQL that caused a circular dependency and s

Re: [CONSENSUS?] Preparation for M4 -- branch early

2005-07-05 Thread Jeremy Boynes
Aaron Mulder wrote: On Tue, 5 Jul 2005, Jeremy Boynes wrote: I didn't -1 it, I said it wasn't a pre-req, as in I think we can release M4 without it. As for a technical reason, where's the code? Last I saw was a patch for TranQL that caused a circular dependency and screwed up the IP. If ther

Re: [CONSENSUS?] Preparation for M4 -- branch early

2005-07-05 Thread Aaron Mulder
On Tue, 5 Jul 2005, Jeremy Boynes wrote: > I didn't -1 it, I said it wasn't a pre-req, as in I think we can release > M4 without it. > > As for a technical reason, where's the code? Last I saw was a patch for > TranQL that caused a circular dependency and screwed up the IP. If there > is somethi

Re: Preparation for M4

2005-07-05 Thread Sing Li
Okay, thanks. For the webapp and ejb examples, I will: 1. apache-fy the source code 2. refactor them to base from applications/demo/src of the build source tree 3. try to convert the current Ant build scripts to maven (will take a little time - maven newbie here) 4. test with the latest build

Re: Preparation for M4

2005-07-05 Thread Jeremy Boynes
... and please capture this process somewhere on the wiki so that we don't have to re-invent it all next time :-) David Blevins wrote: So, JavaOne is over, the 4th of July holiday is almost over. Let's start the release talk. Minimally, to get M4 out the door, we need to: - Create somethi

Re: [CONSENSUS?] Preparation for M4 -- branch early

2005-07-05 Thread Jeremy Boynes
Aaron Mulder wrote: On Mon, 4 Jul 2005, Jeremy Boynes wrote: I want to get the key generator changes in for M4. However, I'm currently blocked because I can't add the new module to TranQL. So I'd like to resolve that before the branch. Other than that, I'm fine to go ahead with the 2

Re: Preparation for M4

2005-07-05 Thread Dain Sundstrom
I am working on removing openorb and the tools jar hack right now. I also think we need to update cglib to the new fully released version instead of my custom build. -dain On Jul 4, 2005, at 10:50 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Should we try to remove theToolsJarHack before M4? Dain said "

Re: [CONSENSUS?] Preparation for M4 -- branch early

2005-07-05 Thread Alan D. Cabrera
On 7/5/2005 1:33 AM, Jacek Laskowski wrote: Alan D. Cabrera wrote: I'm not a big fan of performing development on a branch that, IMO, should be frozen for QA. I'm not sure if that's what people are proposing but, I just wanted to say that. Me, either, but wondering what we do if a fix pop

Re: Preparation for M4

2005-07-05 Thread Jacek Laskowski
toby cabot wrote: OK, what package should they be in? org.apache.geronimo.demo.ra? o.a.g.apps.ra or even the one you proposed. You can pick the one you wish as long as it's o.a.g.apps.ra ;) Jacek

Re: Preparation for M4

2005-07-05 Thread toby cabot
On Tue, Jul 05, 2005 at 10:24:06AM +0200, Jacek Laskowski wrote: > If it's enough legally, I'll add them > to the repo to the applications dir. OK, what package should they be in? org.apache.geronimo.demo.ra?

Re: Preparation for M4

2005-07-05 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
On Jul 4, 2005, at 10:26 PM, Aaron Mulder wrote: I guess we should also decide whether to make Jetty or Tomcat the default container, and whether to provide separate builds for each. I think we should try to do separate builds for Jetty and Tomcat if it isn't too much pain. Also

Re: Preparation for M4

2005-07-05 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
On Jul 4, 2005, at 9:38 PM, Jeremy Boynes wrote: David Blevins wrote: On Mon, Jul 04, 2005 at 05:22:36PM -0700, Jeremy Boynes wrote: David Blevins wrote: Anything I missed? SNAPSHOT elimination so the build is reproducible. Right. Missed that one for M3 IIRC. Branch so that M4 c

Re: [CONSENSUS?] Preparation for M4 -- branch early

2005-07-05 Thread Gianny Damour
On 5/07/2005 1:55 PM, Aaron Mulder wrote: On Mon, 4 Jul 2005, Jeremy Boynes wrote: I want to get the key generator changes in for M4. However, I'm currently blocked because I can't add the new module to TranQL. So I'd like to resolve that before the branch. Other than that, I'm fi

Re: [CONSENSUS?] Preparation for M4 -- branch early

2005-07-05 Thread Gianny Damour
+1 I like the idea to branch at the beginning and merge back any bug fixes if need be. Thanks, Gianny On 5/07/2005 12:46 PM, David Blevins wrote: Do we have a consensus that we should branch at the beginning of the release cycle instead of at the end as we have done in the past? If so, go

Re: [CONSENSUS?] Preparation for M4 -- branch early

2005-07-05 Thread Jacek Laskowski
Alan D. Cabrera wrote: I'm not a big fan of performing development on a branch that, IMO, should be frozen for QA. I'm not sure if that's what people are proposing but, I just wanted to say that. Me, either, but wondering what we do if a fix pops up, shall we get rid of the M4 branch and do

Re: Preparation for M4 -- jetty vs tomcat or jetty and tomcat (two builds)

2005-07-05 Thread Jacek Laskowski
David Blevins wrote: So what does the group want? 1) Separate builds 2) Jetty as the default Both tested against TCK. -David Jacek

Re: Preparation for M4 -- TCK testsing

2005-07-05 Thread Jacek Laskowski
Jeremy Boynes wrote: +1 on TCK testing - actually -1 to releasing unless we pass all tests. +1 Jeremy Jacek

Re: Preparation for M4

2005-07-05 Thread Jacek Laskowski
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Should we try to remove theToolsJarHack before M4? Dain said "The tools jar hack will be needed until we delete the OpenORB stub/ tie compiler. I should have this change committed in the next few days, and then we can remove the hack code." Kind of spoils the new s

Re: Preparation for M4

2005-07-05 Thread Jacek Laskowski
Jeff Genender wrote: +1 for Jetty as default (at least until Tomcat does a TCK dance)...but I think we should have a seperate build for each. +1 Jacek

Re: Preparation for M4

2005-07-05 Thread Jacek Laskowski
toby cabot wrote: I've got some trivial resource adapter code/descriptors if that's interesting to anyone. It worked with Geronimo back in April, if you want I can make sure it works with the trunk and ship it to Jacek. +1. Since its your work and we're very concerned with any donation and it

Re: Preparation for M4

2005-07-05 Thread Jacek Laskowski
Sing Li wrote: I have two examples, tested up to the most recent build, that may require only minor mods for this. 1. Web app - JSP, JSTL, with servlet 2. EJB - stateless session (local), entity Jacek - please let me know if they may be of interest, and I'll email them to you. But of course!

Re: Preparation for M4 -- jetty vs tomcat or jetty and tomcat (two builds)

2005-07-05 Thread Bruce Snyder
On 7/4/05, David Blevins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Jul 04, 2005 at 10:26:40PM -0400, Aaron Mulder wrote: > > I guess we should also decide whether to make Jetty or Tomcat the > > default container, and whether to provide separate builds for each. > > > > So what does the group wan

Re: Preparation for M4

2005-07-04 Thread sissonj
Should we try to remove theToolsJarHack before M4? Dain said "The tools jar hack will be needed until we delete the OpenORB stub/ tie compiler. I should have this change committed in the next few days, and then we can remove the hack code." Kind of spoils the new startup output :-( John Bo

Re: Preparation for M4

2005-07-04 Thread David Blevins
On Mon, Jul 04, 2005 at 11:53:22PM -0400, toby cabot wrote: > I've got some trivial resource adapter code/descriptors if that's > interesting to anyone. It worked with Geronimo back in April, if you > want I can make sure it works with the trunk and ship it to Jacek. Go for it. > > Sounds like

Re: [CONSENSUS?] Preparation for M4 -- branch early

2005-07-04 Thread David Blevins
On Mon, Jul 04, 2005 at 11:55:11PM -0400, Aaron Mulder wrote: > On Mon, 4 Jul 2005, Jeremy Boynes wrote: > > > I want to get the key generator changes in for M4. However, I'm > > > currently blocked because I can't add the new module to TranQL. So I'd > > > like to resolve that before the branc

Re: [CONSENSUS?] Preparation for M4 -- branch early

2005-07-04 Thread Aaron Mulder
On Mon, 4 Jul 2005, Jeremy Boynes wrote: > > I want to get the key generator changes in for M4. However, I'm > > currently blocked because I can't add the new module to TranQL. So I'd > > like to resolve that before the branch. Other than that, I'm fine to go > > ahead with the 24 hour notic

Re: Preparation for M4

2005-07-04 Thread toby cabot
I've got some trivial resource adapter code/descriptors if that's interesting to anyone. It worked with Geronimo back in April, if you want I can make sure it works with the trunk and ship it to Jacek. Sounds like we're well on the way to a nice Geronimo/J2EE "Hello, World" example application.

Re: [CONSENSUS?] Preparation for M4 -- branch early

2005-07-04 Thread Alan D. Cabrera
I'm not a big fan of performing development on a branch that, IMO, should be frozen for QA. I'm not sure if that's what people are proposing but, I just wanted to say that. Regards, Alan On 7/4/2005 7:46 PM, David Blevins wrote: Do we have a consensus that we should branch at the beginning

Re: [CONSENSUS?] Preparation for M4 -- branch early

2005-07-04 Thread Jeremy Boynes
Aaron Mulder wrote: I want to get the key generator changes in for M4. However, I'm currently blocked because I can't add the new module to TranQL. So I'd like to resolve that before the branch. Other than that, I'm fine to go ahead with the 24 hour notice. I don't think this is a p

Re: Preparation for M4 -- TCK testsing

2005-07-04 Thread Jeremy Boynes
David Blevins wrote: On Mon, Jul 04, 2005 at 10:26:40PM -0400, Aaron Mulder wrote: Also, we need to decide whether we're planning to run the entire TCK on the candidate configuration(s). I'm certainly willing to take a chunck of the TCK do that. If others are also willing, we can divide

Re: [CONSENSUS?] Preparation for M4 -- branch early

2005-07-04 Thread David Blevins
On Mon, Jul 04, 2005 at 10:57:45PM -0400, Aaron Mulder wrote: > I want to get the key generator changes in for M4. However, I'm > currently blocked because I can't add the new module to TranQL. So I'd > like to resolve that before the branch. Other than that, I'm fine to go > ahead with th

Re: [CONSENSUS?] Preparation for M4 -- branch early

2005-07-04 Thread Aaron Mulder
I want to get the key generator changes in for M4. However, I'm currently blocked because I can't add the new module to TranQL. So I'd like to resolve that before the branch. Other than that, I'm fine to go ahead with the 24 hour notice. Oh, I think we also have a problem where

Re: Preparation for M4 -- jetty vs tomcat or jetty and tomcat (two builds)

2005-07-04 Thread David Blevins
On Mon, Jul 04, 2005 at 10:26:40PM -0400, Aaron Mulder wrote: > I guess we should also decide whether to make Jetty or Tomcat the > default container, and whether to provide separate builds for each. > So what does the group want? 1) Separate builds 2) Jetty as the default -David

[CONSENSUS?] Preparation for M4 -- branch early

2005-07-04 Thread David Blevins
Do we have a consensus that we should branch at the beginning of the release cycle instead of at the end as we have done in the past? If so, going to put out an email titled "M4 - 24 hour notice of branch", which I think would be a good release practice. -David On Mon, Jul 04, 2005 at 07:15:34

Re: Preparation for M4 -- TCK testsing

2005-07-04 Thread David Blevins
On Mon, Jul 04, 2005 at 10:26:40PM -0400, Aaron Mulder wrote: > > Also, we need to decide whether we're planning to run the entire > TCK on the candidate configuration(s). > I'm certainly willing to take a chunck of the TCK do that. If others are also willing, we can divide up the sectio

Re: Preparation for M4

2005-07-04 Thread David Blevins
On Mon, Jul 04, 2005 at 08:28:56PM -0600, Jeff Genender wrote: > +1 for Jetty as default (at least until Tomcat does a TCK dance)...but I > think we should have a seperate build for each. Agreed on both points. > > Aaron Mulder wrote: > > I guess we should also decide whether to make Jetty

Re: Preparation for M4

2005-07-04 Thread Jeff Genender
+1 for Jetty as default (at least until Tomcat does a TCK dance)...but I think we should have a seperate build for each. Aaron Mulder wrote: I guess we should also decide whether to make Jetty or Tomcat the default container, and whether to provide separate builds for each. Also, we need to

Re: Preparation for M4

2005-07-04 Thread Aaron Mulder
I guess we should also decide whether to make Jetty or Tomcat the default container, and whether to provide separate builds for each. Also, we need to decide whether we're planning to run the entire TCK on the candidate configuration(s). Aaron On Mon, 4 Jul 2005, David Blevins

Re: Preparation for M4

2005-07-04 Thread David Blevins
On Mon, Jul 04, 2005 at 06:38:23PM -0700, Jeremy Boynes wrote: > David Blevins wrote: > >On Mon, Jul 04, 2005 at 05:22:36PM -0700, Jeremy Boynes wrote: > > > >>David Blevins wrote: > >> > >>>Anything I missed? > >>> > >> > >>SNAPSHOT elimination so the build is reproducible. > > > > > >Right. Miss

Re: Preparation for M4

2005-07-04 Thread Jeremy Boynes
David Blevins wrote: On Mon, Jul 04, 2005 at 05:22:36PM -0700, Jeremy Boynes wrote: David Blevins wrote: Anything I missed? SNAPSHOT elimination so the build is reproducible. Right. Missed that one for M3 IIRC. Branch so that M4 can stabilize whilst other changes are being made.

Re: Preparation for M4

2005-07-04 Thread sissonj
Jeremy Boynes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 05/07/2005 10:22:36 AM: > David Blevins wrote: > > > > Anything I missed? > > > > SNAPSHOT elimination so the build is reproducible. > +1 on SNAPSHOT elimination if possible. John

Re: Preparation for M4

2005-07-04 Thread David Blevins
On Mon, Jul 04, 2005 at 04:27:41PM -0700, Sing Li wrote: > I have two examples, tested up to the most recent > build, that may require only minor mods for this. > > 1. Web app - JSP, JSTL, with servlet > 2. EJB - stateless session (local), entity > > Jacek - please let me know if they may be of

Re: Preparation for M4

2005-07-04 Thread David Blevins
On Mon, Jul 04, 2005 at 05:22:36PM -0700, Jeremy Boynes wrote: > David Blevins wrote: > > > >Anything I missed? > > > > SNAPSHOT elimination so the build is reproducible. Right. Missed that one for M3 IIRC. > Branch so that M4 can stabilize whilst other changes are being made. We do for every

Re: Preparation for M4

2005-07-04 Thread Jeremy Boynes
David Blevins wrote: Anything I missed? SNAPSHOT elimination so the build is reproducible. Documentation update. Branch so that M4 can stabilize whilst other changes are being made. Acceptance test process - how do we know what works (need to avoid a broken release like M3). -- Jeremy

Re: Preparation for M4

2005-07-04 Thread Sing Li
I have two examples, tested up to the most recent build, that may require only minor mods for this. 1. Web app - JSP, JSTL, with servlet 2. EJB - stateless session (local), entity Jacek - please let me know if they may be of interest, and I'll email them to you. I also have examples for client

Re: Preparation for M4

2005-07-04 Thread Aaron Mulder
I do think it would good to pick a date to aim for. Then we can pick a date in advance of that to make a branch for M4. How long do you think it will take to get the demo apps ready? In any case, I'll volunteer to work on the README and release notes. Aaron On Mon, 4 Jul 2005

Re: Preparation for M4

2005-07-04 Thread Jacek Laskowski
David Blevins wrote: Not mandatory, but nice: - A 15 min servlet example with related descriptors - A 15 min ejb example with related descriptors I volunteer to do it once I finish the work on PetStore. It should give me enough knowledge about configuration stuff so these 15-minutes exa

Preparation for M4

2005-07-04 Thread David Blevins
So, JavaOne is over, the 4th of July holiday is almost over. Let's start the release talk. Minimally, to get M4 out the door, we need to: - Create something for general testing - Cleaned up README (is it out of date?) - Scrub JIRA and prepare our copious changelog - Create human readabl