;
>> So it would be really great if you could take a look and help us with
>> OSGi support!
>> It would be awesome if OWB would 'just work' in Karaf and other ASF OSGi
>> projects!
>>
>> txs and LieGrue,
>> strub
>>
>>
>> > Am 27.06.2017 um 14
t; [+1] ship it!
> [+0] meh, don't care
> [-1] stop, because there is a ${showstopper}
>
>
> The VOTE is open for 72h min.
>
> Here is my own +1
>
> txs and LieGrue,
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>
> Please VOTE
>
> [+1] ship it!
> [+0] meh, don't care
> [-1] stop, because there is a ${showstopper}
>
>
> The VOTE is open for 72h min.
>
> Here is my own +1
>
> txs and LieGrue,
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t; ASF projects, but that not urgent)
>
>
> Any objections?
>
> The VOTE is open for 72h, after that I'll trigger the infra work.
>
> Here is my +1
>
> txs and LieGrue,
> strub
>
>
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, let's ship it!
> [+0] meh, don't care
> [-1] nope, because ${showstopper}
>
> The VOTE is open for 72h
>
> Here is my own +1
>
> txs and LieGrue,
> strub
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gt; geronimo-annotation_1.3_spec/1.0/
>
>
> [+1] go for it
> [+0] don't care
> [-1] stop there is a ${showstopper}
>
>
> Here is my own +1
>
> txs and LieGrue,
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there any OSGi related bug I did overlook or is the support so far
> not enough?
> >
> > Would it work for you to get this version out of the door and then ship
> some patches which improve OSGi support?
> > I'd happy to also work on improved OSGi support over at OpenWebBea
t; LieGrue,
> strub
>
> > Am 27.06.2017 um 13:29 schrieb Guillaume Nodet <gno...@apache.org>:
> >
> > -0
> >
> > It would be nice to have all the new specs released in an OSGi
> compatible way or not include OSGi support. The current state (OSGi
> metadat
ed about something in TomEE,
> please extend the same "I won’t stand in the way, I even applaud the
> spirit” and "more strong Apache projects is never a bad thing” mentality.
>
> For the 6 that voted, is my perspective clear? Not trying to convince
> anyone as I understand everyone has their own perspective and vision. I
> just want to make sure I’m communicating clearly as there are signs I am
> not.
>
>
> -David
>
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[ ] +1 ship it
> [ ] +/- 0 don't care
> [ ] -1 don't ship because...
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> wrote:
> > I think we came to an agreement so far
> >
> >
> > Le mar. 25 avr. 2017 à 00:21, Mark Struberg <strub...@yahoo.de> a écrit
> :
> > Or do we need another formal vote?
> >
> > If we are all on the same boat, when, how and who is drafting the
> Announcement?
> >
> > LieGrue,
> > strub
> >
> >
>
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>
> [+1] release it, all my stack is waiting for it!
> [+0] don’t care, java you said?
> [-1] no because ${blocker}
>
> The VOTE is open for 72h.
>
> Here is my +1.
>
> Romain Manni-Bucau
> @rmannibucau | Blog | Old Blog | Github | LinkedIn
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clude the file as a
> >>> short term workaround to not hold the release.
> >>>
> >>> Will try to do it tomorrow or on monday.
> >>>
> >>> wdyt? Any other blocker?
> >>>
> >>> PS: I have some net issues at home ATM so can need help for the
> >>> upload, anyone would have some cycles next week?
> >>>
> >>> Romain Manni-Bucau
> >>> @rmannibucau | Blog | Old Blog | Github | LinkedIn
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> work week for me).
>
> Romain Manni-Bucau
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écrit :
>
>
> Le sam. 26 oct. 2019 à 00:22, Guillaume Nodet a
> écrit :
>
>>
>>
>> Le ven. 25 oct. 2019 à 22:42, Romain Manni-Bucau
>> a écrit :
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Le ven. 25
s://twitter.com/rmannibucau> | Blog
>>> <https://rmannibucau.metawerx.net/> | Old Blog
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>> (@rotty3000)
>> Senior Software Architect *Liferay, Inc.* <http://www.liferay.com>
>> (@Liferay)
>>
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Le ven. 25 oct. 2019 à 22:42, Romain Manni-Bucau a
écrit :
>
>
> Le ven. 25 oct. 2019 à 21:34, Guillaume Nodet a
> écrit :
>
>>
>>
>> Le ven. 25 oct. 2019 à 16:28, Romain Manni-Bucau
>> a écrit :
>>
>>> Hi Raymond,
>>>
>>
>
> Please vote to approve this release:
> [ ] +1 Approve the release
> [ ] -1 Don't approve the release (please provide specific comments)
>
> This vote will be open for at least 72 hours.
>
> --
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>
> Please vote to approve this release:
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>
> This vote will be open for at least 72 hours.
>
> --
> --
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>
> --
> --
> François
>
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>
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+1
Would it be possible to do it with m2 ?
Guillaume
James Strachan wrote:
Now that ActiveMQ has dotted the 'i's and crossed the 't's of most
of the incubation checklist, http://wiki.apache.org/geronimo/
ActiveMQ_Incubation, and we have gotten through most of the refactors
needed, it
+1
Guillaume
Hiram Chirino wrote:
Hi Guys,
This if the 2nd try at getting the RC1 binary released. Please take
the time to check it out and let us know if you find an issue that
would hold up a RC1 release. This should address the last set of
issues raised against the first set of
I think so.
There are lots of TLPs that do not have multiple subprojects like
geronimo or ws have (log4j, xmlbeans, ant ..).
So, i' m +1 for ActiveMQ to graduate as a TLP.
Cheers,
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Alan D. Cabrera wrote:
Hiram Chirino wrote:
Hi Folks, especially you ActiveMQ Mentors out
+1
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On 7/26/06, Hiram Chirino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Since it was brought up, and folks concurred that it's about time to put
out
a bug fix release for ActiveMQ, I've put together a binary release of
ActiveMQ 4.0.2:
http://people.apache.org/~chirino/incubator
:)
I wouldn't mind creating and assigning certificate login but
as Sepand was
the first to raise it I'd wait for him (a while).
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will make any efforts to look
into that until we actually jump to Java 5.
So what do you say? Shall we switch ??
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our of the incubator?
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Btw, I've blogged about that at http://gnodet.blogspot.com/
On 12/19/06, Guillaume Nodet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have committed in jencks some work I have done the past weeks
on a pooled ConnectionFactory for ActiveMQ.
This add the following features:
* multiple connections are used
your votes:
[ ] +1 Release the source as Apache ActiveMQ CPP 1.1
[ ] -1 Veto the release (provide specific comments)
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, Hiram Chirino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From some of the posts in the incubator lists, it sounds like were
have now graduated. If this is so, what are the next steps?
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- before GA
-1, We have, thus far, used major version numbers to mean
incompatible wire protocol changes, not impressive new features and
I would like to maintain that.
-Brian
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Blog: http
The svn repo has been moved to
https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/activemq/
You should be able to update using a
svn switch --relocate ...
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See http://jira.activemq.org/jira/browse/SM-221
Guillaume Nodet wrote:
I think it would be better to be able to specify for a lightweight
component, if it is
a BC or a SE (using flags on the activationSpec, or on the
ComponentSupport class) and maybe to change the class hierarchy so
Btw, I've just upgraded the version of the javamail geronimo spec to
1.1-20060323, which is the current svn head, to fix MIME support. I
had to fix a few things in this one, but it seems to work nicely now.
Cheers,
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On 3/22/06, Hiram Chirino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Nevermind
with the current colors ...
The discussion is open...
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See SM-369
Guillaume
On 3/27/06, Charles Souillard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi all,
as you probably know by now I have a service available in my SE.
I am trying to expose this service through many BCs.
I have done that with sm-jms and sm-http.
In the source code, when we deploy a new SU
The doap file for Apache ServiceMix is now available at
http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/servicemix/trunk/doap.rdf
Would it be possible to include it in projects.apache.org ?
Cheers,
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I was just in the process of upgrading to AMQ 4.0-RC2.
Should be done in the next nightly build.
Cheers,
Guillaume Node
On 4/7/06, Renaud Bruyeron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello there,
Any idea on the timeline of updating servicemix to use the latest
activemq4 (RC2 or snapshot) ? It has
I ' m wondering if your problem comes from the activemq.xml configuration file.
Do you have a reference to a bean named broker in this file ?
Cheers,
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On 4/7/06, Charlesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have following servicemix.xml:
?xml version='1.0' encoding='ISO-8859-1
Could you please raise a JIRA and attach your patch ?
This is not a big deal, but this allows keeping track of issues /
patches / contributors, aso...
Thanks,
Guillaume Nodet
On 4/9/06, Soumadeep [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Everybody,
Some of the CGI headers are missing in the HttpConnector
Well, not easily, as the m2 build is broken...
I 'm working on that at the moment.
Hopefully i will have something working soon.
Cheers,
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On 4/17/06, fretzlaff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ok, but if my project uses maven2 I couldn´t use servicemix as dependency??
Previously I
transparently by
the container...
I really think that container security is the most flexible and
pluggable way to handle security as it is centralized.
Any thoughts ?
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On 4/19/06, Hossam Karim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Just thinking:
- Security is a service
- A component
For those that are not subscribed to the Apache incubator mailing list,
just a word to say that the release has been vetoed for legal reasons
(missing NOTICE file and third party licenses...)
I 'm working on that and I hope we will be able to cut another M1 soon.
Cheers,
Guillaume Nodet
On 4/9
Can you please post the compilation errors ?
Cheers,
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On 5/4/06, emicalc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm trying to use incubator-servicemix-3.0-SNAPSHOT; when I compile with
maven (maven -Dmaven.test.skip=true) the build not finish correctly.
This is the error message:
BUILD
Could you try with 3.0-SNAPSHOT ?
Cheers,
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On 5/5/06, emicalc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello,
I have this problem with HTPP-binding example (in servicemix-2.0.2); I start
the service and then I start the client with ant command but there is the
following error:
D:\Program
One solution would be to download the binary distribution.
Or just try to build the assembly without building the other modules.
If you find any information on your problem, please report back, but I
have no way to reproduce it ...
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On 5/5/06, emicalc [EMAIL PROTECTED
What are you looking for ?
If you want to access to J2EE resources, you should be able to do so
using JNDI Spring support
http://static.springframework.org/spring/docs/1.2.x/api/org/springframework/jndi/package-summary.html
Cheers,
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On 5/11/06, pandu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi
Try maven 2.0.4.
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On 5/25/06, emicalc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
hello,
I'm starting to use the latest snapshot
(incubating-servicemix-3.0-20060523.071937-3);
which version of maven have I use? 1.0.2 or 2.0 ?
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On 6/16/06, David Black [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
configuration,
components and examples (I have changed quite a few things these last days,
so ...),
and post your feedback (and votes for PPMC members).
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to use a lightweight
component i would have
created on my own.
Btw, SL can not really be used when embedding servicemix -- or you use the
full JBI feature set
(component installation, SU deployment, etc) and it is not really embedded
anymore ;)
Feel free to argue :)
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On 7/24/06
not work, because the JVM will always load classes that are
referenced
directly from the same classloader. So if you put a lightweight component
in a SL,
the dependencies need to be in this classloader or the parent one(s).
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Nothing like a Sunday night discussion :)
P
On 7
fixes
* documentation
Any thoughts ?
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be useful to access ServiceMix
specific features without
relying on some casts like (JBIContainer) ((ComponentContextImpl)
context).getContainer()
which is currently the only way to retrieve the JBIContainer from a
component.
Any thoughts or volunteer ;) ?
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Could you please raise a JIRA and attach any patch / test case you have,
please ?
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On 7/25/06, Holger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
We are playing around with servicemix and the jsr181 component when we run
into a strange problem. We are sending a SOAP request to a defined
-core/apidocs/org/apache/servicemix/client/Client.html
http://incubator.apache.org/servicemix/maven/servicemix-core/apidocs/org/apache/servicemix/client/Destination.html
Should we revert back to it ?
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On 7/25/06, James Strachan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 7/25/06, Guillaume
animation easily, I'm happy to contribute
similar docs for the site?
Terry
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structure, a page on builds. As for the user guide I've
found the best way to start those is to create an index page and start
organizing that then people can take bits out as they see fit to fill them
in.
P
On 7/26/06, Guillaume Nodet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 7/23/06, Philip Dodds [EMAIL
Cool, thx.
I'm ready to help in any way I can, so if you have any question on the
component or
JBI in general, feel free to ask :)
Cheers,
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ant elder wrote:
Bringing this into Tuscany sounds really good to me and I'd like to
help you
do it. I'll go have a look at whats needed
it
and deploy it
on the servicemix-http component.
See http://servicemix.goopen.org/site/servicemix-http.html
Cheers,
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On 7/31/06, emicalc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
thank you,
but where I can find other information on this?
Are there some examples on wsdl file necessary to publish
that the samples will be moved to the trunk/samples dir and the source
distribution
of these artifacts will be included in the main distribution.
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to
automatically bundle it in the SU. We do not need to generate the classpath
tag
in the xbean.xml, but the jar would be bundled along with the classes in the
SU.
Any thoughts on how to do that ?
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On 8/1/06, Philip Dodds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sounds great!
P
On 8
issues within SUs, which is
likely to become a problem in the lifecycle of richly featured
applications using the container.
Do you have an example, I'm not sure to understand.
Are you talking about a SU that depends on another SU ?
Terry
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be great :)
P
On 8/1/06, Guillaume Nodet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've just seen a problem though.
I though the maven-jbi-plugin would embed jar dependencies in the
service
unit, but it does not seem to be the case.
Let's say I have a multiproject build containing a jar, a SU and a SA
, apache-servicemix
step1 = container + tooling
step2 = components + assembly
The default profile will build everything.
This way, we should be able to build everything on a clean host using
mvn -Dprofile=step1
mvn -Dprofile=step2
On 8/1/06, Guillaume Nodet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Right
, Guillaume Nodet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have just added some profiles to the build system.
They can be activated using
mvn -Dprofile=name
where name can be
container = servicemix-services, servicemix-jbi, servicemix-core
tooling = tooling
components = beanflow
new components and I can help out on
the
documentation.
What do you think?
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Guillaume Nodet
the classapth.
Do I need to do anything else?
Thanks
Soumadeep
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From: Guillaume Nodet [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: servicemix-dev@geronimo.apache.org
Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2006 3:11 PM
Subject: Re: creating a standard JBI Component using servicemix-common
module
What do you
: Thursday, August 03, 2006 6:08 PM
Subject: Re: creating a standard JBI Component using servicemix-common
module
Yup.. the classpath variable in Eclipse. I am changing the classes to
BAMxxx
Thanks
Soumadeep
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To: servicemix-dev
to have a
quick
look.
Screenshots rock :)
They will send to the mailing list a beta version of cimero for
testing it.
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On 8/4/06, Guillaume Nodet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yeah, I like the idea of a maven plugin. I need to dig in the AMQ perf
code.
On 8/4/06, James Strachan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm sure JMeter could work. I do like the idea of using a Maven plugin
like the ActiveMQ Maven plugin
goal was something I started, I should be able to finish it up
and try and get it back in today :)
P
On 8/4/06, Guillaume Nodet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Also, for examples not using the std JBI packaging, I though that we
could
have a new goal in the
maven plugin to start
/resources/servicemix.xml?
P
On 8/4/06, Philip Dodds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The new goal was something I started, I should be able to finish it
up
and try and get it back in today :)
P
On 8/4/06, Guillaume Nodet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Also, for examples not using
structure.
P
On 8/4/06, Guillaume Nodet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Not sure for the artifact. There aren't much to do in an archetype, just
reference the
needed components afaik. And for the default location, i would have
tought
to look
for it in the current dir
installed in the lib directory by default, so the
jbi:embeddedServicemix can't start...
Terry
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of this configuration or do you have
existing examples this should be integrated into?
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same error :-(
Guillaume Nodet wrote:
AFAIK, i have fixed that yesterday. Could you try with the svn head ?
On 8/11/06, Antoni Reus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It seems there is a problem in samples:
It seems there is a problem with relative/absolute path of file
samples/wsdl-first/wsdl
] Final Memory: 24M/48M
[INFO]
Guillaume Nodet wrote:
:(
It works fine for me.
Could you try to run with -e at the end ? maven should print any
exception
stack trace.
On 8/11/06, Antoni Reus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I
Nightly snapshots can be downloaded at
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[INFO] Total time: 1 minute 41 seconds
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Here is something i'd like to be able to do.
This is really pseudo code, and some kind of beanflow oriented annotations.
This service would simply send two concurrent requests and wait for their
answers to reply to the main request. Of course, this would
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On 8/22/06, James Strachan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 8/22/06, Guillaume Nodet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think we should release 3.0 asap.
+1
The remaining todos are:
* xbean 2.6 release
* jencks 1.3 release (dependant on xbean)
* check samples and ensure they work
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On 8/24/06, Guillaume Nodet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I haven't tried it under maven.
I guess there is some problems in the pom ...
I think you have to add the jencks dependency in test scope.
On 8/24/06, vikas kumar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am trying out the BAM
scopetest/scope
/dependency
If thats the case.. I am still stuck..
Or is it a pom file in someother location that I am supposed to modify?
Please help..
Am new to the mvn way of things..
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Did you add the jencks dependency to the pom ?
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