Re: do I need a custom proxy?

2009-06-03 Thread Joachim Zobel
Am Dienstag, den 02.06.2009, 08:45 -0400 schrieb Sam Carleton: My thought is create a custom mod_proxy that will redirect some URL's from the public facing Apache to the internal IIS. Is this the correct approach or is there an approach that does not require actual development? Probably

Loadtesting tools ?

2009-06-03 Thread Elison Smith
Hello, (I realize that this question is not an exact fit for this mailing list) I have a website that runs Apache 2.x. I want to loadtest this site. I want to loadtest with as much as 50-100 requests per second. Any pointers to tools/ online services ? I am happy to pay for a tool that can do

Re: Loadtesting tools ?

2009-06-03 Thread Jérôme Renard
Hello, Sorin Manolache a écrit : On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 19:41, Elison Smith elison.sm...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, (I realize that this question is not an exact fit for this mailing list) I have a website that runs Apache 2.x. I want to loadtest this site. I want to loadtest with as much as

Re: file listing oddity

2009-06-03 Thread Jim Jagielski
On Jun 2, 2009, at 5:32 PM, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: Here's an oddity to consider; FNM_PERIOD is part of the pattern match of both autoindex and ftp. In the case of autoindex, we default to a pattern NULL so there is no fnm pattern matching, and by default all files are autoindexed. But

Re: file listing oddity

2009-06-03 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Jim Jagielski wrote: Likely moot right now (r779989) but +1 to either removing APR_FNM_PERIOD or changing pattern to NULL... the APR_FNM_PERIOD fix is likely better since the * pattern was a holder, iirc, from the old dir glob code. Good point; these are separate fixes, both would make

Re: [VOTE] release httpd mod_ftp-0.9.3 beta?

2009-06-03 Thread Guenter Knauf
Bill, William A. Rowe, Jr. schrieb: reverted. Thanks; something aught to be said under a Netware heading of README-FTP, if you can whip up a paragraph or two? hmmm, honestly spoken I dont know how to so. The problem is that its not possible to do an easy in-tree build since that would require

Re: file listing oddity

2009-06-03 Thread Jim Jagielski
On Jun 3, 2009, at 9:48 AM, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: Jim Jagielski wrote: Likely moot right now (r779989) but +1 to either removing APR_FNM_PERIOD or changing pattern to NULL... the APR_FNM_PERIOD fix is likely better since the * pattern was a holder, iirc, from the old dir glob code.

Some ramblings on httpd config

2009-06-03 Thread Akins, Brian
Some ramblings from playing with other servers, particularly varnish and lighttpd. It would be interesting if we ditched the current configuration system and just used lua. I know this has been said before, but I've been doing a bit of playing with mod_lua and I think it it actually doable. We

add OS to BugZilla

2009-06-03 Thread Guenter Knauf
Hi, we support NetWare already from 1.3.x days, and I think it would make sense to add 'NetWare' to the OS dropdown selector in BugZilla; can perhaps someone with the needed karma add this please? thanks, Günter.

Re: Some ramblings on httpd config

2009-06-03 Thread Joachim Zobel
Am Mittwoch, den 03.06.2009, 11:08 -0400 schrieb Akins, Brian: It would be interesting if we ditched the current configuration system and just used lua. This does IMHO not address any of the problems users usually have and that are mainly due to a lack of validation. See

Re: Some ramblings on httpd config

2009-06-03 Thread Akins, Brian
On 6/3/09 2:09 PM, Joachim Zobel jzo...@heute-morgen.de wrote: This does IMHO not address any of the problems users usually have and that are mainly due to a lack of validation. First of all, I don't really care about normal users, to be honest. Admit it, I'm not the only one. However, I do

Re: Loadtesting tools ?

2009-06-03 Thread Sorin Manolache
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 19:41, Elison Smith elison.sm...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, (I realize that this question is not an exact fit for this mailing list) I have a website that runs Apache 2.x. I want to loadtest this site. I want to loadtest with as much as 50-100 requests per second. Any

Re: Some ramblings on httpd config

2009-06-03 Thread Jorge Schrauwen
I know I'm playing with fire now but... XML based config could solve a few of the problems, XML can also be validated. I have to admit lua would be more flexible but I think most server admins have atleast come into contact with XML... while not necessarily the case with lua. of course a sort

Re: Some ramblings on httpd config

2009-06-03 Thread Akins, Brian
On 6/3/09 2:45 PM, Jorge Schrauwen jorge.schrau...@gmail.com wrote: I have to admit lua would be more flexible but I think most server admins have atleast come into contact with XML... while not necessarily the case with lua. XML with conditionals. Please, make it stop... I think we are

Re: Some ramblings on httpd config

2009-06-03 Thread Jorge Schrauwen
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 9:07 PM, Akins, Brian brian.ak...@turner.com wrote: On 6/3/09 2:45 PM, Jorge Schrauwen jorge.schrau...@gmail.com wrote: I have to admit lua would be more flexible but I think most server admins have atleast come into contact with XML... while not necessarily the case

Re: Some ramblings on httpd config

2009-06-03 Thread Rich Bowen
On Jun 3, 2009, at 14:09, Joachim Zobel wrote: Am Mittwoch, den 03.06.2009, 11:08 -0400 schrieb Akins, Brian: It would be interesting if we ditched the current configuration system and just used lua. This does IMHO not address any of the problems users usually have and that are mainly due

Re: Some ramblings on httpd config

2009-06-03 Thread Rich Bowen
On Jun 3, 2009, at 16:35, Bertrand Mansion wrote: Lua can look like this : DocumentRoot = /htdocs ServerName = www.example.com VirtualHosts = { www.example.com = { DocumentRoot = /example.com/htdocs } } I'm sure that, given time, I can be persuaded that this is a good thing. This

Re: Some ramblings on httpd config

2009-06-03 Thread Niklas Edmundsson
On Wed, 3 Jun 2009, Jorge Schrauwen wrote: I know I'm playing with fire now but... XML based config could solve a few of the problems, XML can also be validated. I have to admit lua would be more flexible but I think most server admins have atleast come into contact with XML... while not

Re: Some ramblings on httpd config

2009-06-03 Thread Akins, Brian
Has anyone looked at VCL that varnish uses? That and some playing with lighttpd's mod_magnet is what rekindled my interest: http://varnish.projects.linpro.no/wiki/Introduction http://varnish.projects.linpro.no/wiki/VCLExamples -- Brian Akins Chief Operations Engineer Turner Digital Media

Re: Some ramblings on httpd config

2009-06-03 Thread Jorge Schrauwen
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 10:55 PM, Niklas Edmundsson ni...@acc.umu.se wrote: On Wed, 3 Jun 2009, Jorge Schrauwen wrote: I know I'm playing with fire now but... XML based config could solve a few of the problems, XML can also be validated. I have to admit lua would be more flexible but I

Re: Some ramblings on httpd config

2009-06-03 Thread Plüm, Rüdiger, VF-Group
-Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Bertrand Mansion Gesendet: Mittwoch, 3. Juni 2009 22:35 An: dev@httpd.apache.org Betreff: Re: Some ramblings on httpd config Lua can look like this : DocumentRoot = /htdocs ServerName = www.example.com VirtualHosts = { www.example.com = {

Re: Some ramblings on httpd config

2009-06-03 Thread Graham Dumpleton
2009/6/4 Plüm, Rüdiger, VF-Group ruediger.pl...@vodafone.com: 2. I admit that some improvements are needed. How about an approach that allows   to embed a macro / scripting language into the current configuration system   that allows you to do more advanced things if you need to.   (OK, yes

Re: Some ramblings on httpd config

2009-06-03 Thread Graham Leggett
Akins, Brian wrote: This does IMHO not address any of the problems users usually have and that are mainly due to a lack of validation. First of all, I don't really care about normal users, to be honest. Admit it, I'm not the only one. However, I do know that we can't just break everything

Re: Some ramblings on httpd config

2009-06-03 Thread Brian McCallister
I would like to see the *output* of configuration be a struct (of structs), and the actual config files are never looked at again (until reload). At that point we don't need to care how it is built, and we can try using lua, vcl, xml, jelly, groovy, windows ini files, or plists :-) I suspect

Re: Some ramblings on httpd config

2009-06-03 Thread Graham Leggett
Brian McCallister wrote: I would like to see the *output* of configuration be a struct (of structs), and the actual config files are never looked at again (until reload). At that point we don't need to care how it is built, and we can try using lua, vcl, xml, jelly, groovy, windows ini files,