Proposal: Remove mod_imap from default list

2003-03-09 Thread Rich Bowen
I've wondered for some time why mod_imap is turned on by default. Perhaps it was for historical reasons. But it is also turned on by default in 2.0, which seems odd, since it's pretty certain that nobody has used this module since about 1996 when Netscape 2.0b1 came out with client-side imagemap su

Re: Proposal: Remove mod_imap from default list

2003-03-09 Thread Lars Eilebrecht
According to Rich Bowen: [Remove mod_imap and mod_asis from the default list] +1 ciao... -- Lars Eilebrecht- All the simple programs have been [EMAIL PROTECTED] - written, and all the good names taken.

Re: Proposal: Remove mod_imap from default list

2003-03-09 Thread Mads Toftum
On Sun, Mar 09, 2003 at 09:30:52PM +0100, Lars Eilebrecht wrote: > According to Rich Bowen: > > [Remove mod_imap and mod_asis from the default list] > > +1 > Looking back, I think I've used each module once, but only mod_asis within the last 5 or 6 years - I suppose most everyone use them even

Re: Proposal: Remove mod_imap from default list

2003-03-09 Thread Joshua Slive
On Sun, 9 Mar 2003, Lars Eilebrecht wrote: > According to Rich Bowen: > > [Remove mod_imap and mod_asis from the default list] > > +1 Two comments: 1. This might be a good opportunity to go through the whole list and see what should be in and out of a default build. For example, mod_expires mi

Re: Proposal: Remove mod_imap from default list

2003-03-09 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
--On Sunday, March 9, 2003 6:48 PM -0500 Joshua Slive <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 2. If we want to keep our contract with the user about the stable series valid, this change should go into 2.1 only. Otherwise, users doing a "configure; make; make install" or even a "config.status" could get a nast

Re: Proposal: Remove mod_imap from default list

2003-03-09 Thread David Burry
are we talking about removing modules entirely, or just modifying what's enabled by default? Dave - Original Message - From: "Justin Erenkrantz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2003 8:39 PM Subject: Re: Proposal: Remove

Re: Proposal: Remove mod_imap from default list

2003-03-10 Thread Thom May
* David Burry ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote : > are we talking about removing modules entirely, or just modifying what's > enabled by default? > Just what's enabled by default. -Thom

Re: Proposal: Remove mod_imap from default list

2003-03-10 Thread Rich Bowen
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2003 8:39 PM > Subject: Re: Proposal: Remove mod_imap from default list > > > > --On Sunday, March 9, 2003 6:48 PM -0500 Joshua Slive <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > 2. If we want to keep our con

Re: Proposal: Remove mod_imap from default list

2003-03-10 Thread Greg Ames
Rich Bowen wrote: > The comment about mod_asis was probably > unwarranted. I think that there are probably people that use mod_asis. We did use mod_asis on daedalus not too long ago, but don't seem to at present. I have no way of knowing how common it is. If we decide to not build it by

Re: Proposal: Remove mod_imap from default list

2003-03-10 Thread Astrid Keßler
> 1. This might be a good opportunity to go through the whole list and see > what should be in and out of a default build. For example, mod_expires > might be a good addition. Of course, I don't have time to do this myself > at the moment, so feel free to ignore this comment. > 2. If we want to

Re: Proposal: Remove mod_imap from default list

2003-03-10 Thread Brian Behlendorf
On Mon, 10 Mar 2003, Greg Ames wrote: > Rich Bowen wrote: > > > The comment about mod_asis was probably > > unwarranted. I think that there are probably people that use mod_asis. > > We did use mod_asis on daedalus not too long ago, but don't seem to at > present. I have no way of knowing h

Re: Proposal: Remove mod_imap from default list

2003-03-10 Thread André Malo
* Astrid Keßler wrote: agreed with the removings. > And I would add: > > mod_logio and mod_expire mod_logio... no. I think 'most' is a good (or say, better) place for it. But I would consider mod_headers as a base module. nd -- Gib' mal folgendes in die Kommandozeile ein (und einen Moment

Re: Proposal: Remove mod_imap from default list

2003-03-11 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
On Mon, 10 Mar 2003, Greg Ames wrote: > Rich Bowen wrote: > > > The comment about mod_asis was probably > > unwarranted. I think that there are probably people that use mod_asis. > > We did use mod_asis on daedalus not too long ago, but don't seem to at present. > I have no way of know

Re: Proposal: Remove mod_imap from default list

2003-03-11 Thread Rich Bowen
On Mon, 10 Mar 2003, Astrid [ISO-8859-1] Keßler wrote: > I suggest to remove from default: > > mod_userdir, mod_asis, mod_imap and mod_status > > I'm not sure about mod_userdir. It's used, yes, but it need not be > default. I think of mod_userdir as an additional feature. Based on IRC and maili

Re: Proposal: Remove mod_imap from default list

2003-03-11 Thread Rich Bowen
On Sun, 9 Mar 2003, Joshua Slive wrote: > 1. This might be a good opportunity to go through the whole list and see > what should be in and out of a default build. For example, mod_expires > might be a good addition. Of course, I don't have time to do this myself > at the moment, so feel free to

Re: Proposal: Remove mod_imap from default list

2003-03-11 Thread Greg Ames
Astrid Keßler wrote: I suggest to remove from default: mod_userdir, mod_asis, mod_imap and mod_status Most users don't know what to do with mod_asis or how to read mod_status. The only active installation of mod_status I've ever seen, has been at beginners first servers. http://www.apache.org

Re: Proposal: Remove mod_imap from default list

2003-03-11 Thread Glenn
On Tue, Mar 11, 2003 at 09:58:58AM -0500, Greg Ames wrote: > Astrid Ke?ler wrote: > > >I suggest to remove from default: > > > > mod_userdir, mod_asis, mod_imap and mod_status > > >Most users don't know what to do with mod_asis or how to read > >mod_status. The only active installation of mod_st

Re: Proposal: Remove mod_imap from default list

2003-03-11 Thread Cliff Woolley
On Tue, 11 Mar 2003, Rich Bowen wrote: > > I suggest to remove from default: > > > > mod_userdir, mod_asis, mod_imap and mod_status > > > > I'm not sure about mod_userdir. It's used, yes, but it need not be > > default. I think of mod_userdir as an additional feature. > > Based on IRC and mailin

Re: Proposal: Remove mod_imap from default list

2003-03-11 Thread Rich Bowen
On Tue, 11 Mar 2003, Cliff Woolley wrote: > On Tue, 11 Mar 2003, Rich Bowen wrote: > > > > I suggest to remove from default: > > > > > > mod_userdir, mod_asis, mod_imap and mod_status > > > > > > I'm not sure about mod_userdir. It's used, yes, but it need not be > > > default. I think of mod_use

Re: Proposal: Remove mod_imap from default list

2003-03-11 Thread Astrid Keßler
First, I'm talking about changes in 2.1 only. I'm opposed against changing the module status in 1.3 or 2.0, too. :) > In this discussion about default modules, I hear three different things: > 1) compile a module by default (or what category, e.g "most" or "all") > 2) enable a module in the

Re: Proposal: Remove mod_imap from default list

2003-03-17 Thread Greg Ames
Astrid Keßler wrote: I do think that mod_userdir, mod_asis, mod_imap, and mod_status should _not_ be enabled by default in the configuration, although I see no reason why the should not be built at compile time. The point is: these modules are copiled statically (by default). I would not compile

mod_asis (was Re: Proposal: Remove mod_imap from default list)

2003-03-11 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Mon, 10 Mar 2003, Greg Ames wrote: > > > Rich Bowen wrote: > > > > > The comment about mod_asis was probably > > > unwarranted. I think that there are probably people that use mod_asis. I myself have used it more than once, and I don't get all that tricky with my code. It a