[ ] Blackrabbit
[x] Oak
"The oak is a common symbol of strength and endurance ..." -> wikipedia
regards,
david
wrote:
> Hi David,
>
> On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 2:59 PM, David Nuescheler wrote:
>> please find a draft of the JSR 283 html version online.
>>
>> http://www.day.com/specs/jcr/2.0/
>
> Cool
>
>> ...After looking into the split-up I am tempted to created few
Hi all,
please find a draft of the JSR 283 html version online.
http://www.day.com/specs/jcr/2.0/
this should mostly facilitate referring to parts of the
specification. This is a draft that was generated mostly
automatically so I expect a lot of clean-up work, please let
me know if you run into
http://jcp.org/en/jsr/results?id=4979
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>
> I was thinking that it might be a good idea to schedule another plugfest
> later in the year to see how things have progressed and possibly have an
> idea of interoperability close to the final release of the specification ?
>
> Best Regards,
> Serge...
>
> On 3 mai 09,
Dear TC members & Jackrabbit-devs,
I would like to thank everybody who attended the CMIS PlugFest in
Basel. I think it was very successful and
we uncovered a lot of issues while having a lot of fun achieving 31
(!) client / server connections.
http://liip.to/cmismatrix
I think we should be able
Hi all,
currently the URL layout of chemistry is exposed in a fashion that
prefixes the operation (eg. "/children/") and by coincidence
also permits the use of slashes in the folder & document ids.
I would like to propose a more natural mapping that also reflects a nicer
mapping for repositories
raft / magnolia
Cedric Huesler / Day
Dave Caruana / Alfresco
David Nuescheler / Day
Dominique Pfister / Day
Florent Guillaume / Nuxeo
Florian Mueller / OpenText
Jens Huebel / OpenText
Martin Hermes / SAP
Michael Marth / Day
Paul Goetz / SAP
Sameer Charles / magnolia
Serge Huber / Jahia
Ugo Cei / SourceS
hi serge,
> Is this code already accessible somewhere ? I'd love to have a look at it
> before I come on Wednesday. Even a snapshot of your working version would be
> fine :)
i think our focus is on getting as much as possible done for wednesday, so
we will check stuff in whenever it makes sense..
Hi guys,
i think we definitely have to distinguish between the JCR bindings of
Chemistry and a specific repository implementations bindings.
The JCR bindings of Chemistry make up a big part of my interest in
Chemistry as a project, so I would really be interested in keeping those
around in Chemist
On Wednesday, April 8, 2009, Florent Guillaume wrote:
> On 7 Apr 2009, at 14:43, David Nuescheler wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> Given the fact that we are now looking into applying florents contributions,
> I would like to propose that we rename the "jcr-cmis" folde
Hi All,
Given the fact that we are now looking into applying florents contributions,
I would like to propose that we rename the "jcr-cmis" folder in sandbox
to "chemistry". Thoughts?
regards,
david
On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 10:23 AM, Dominique Pfister
wrote:
> Hi Florent,
>
> I was very busy latel
us (the JR community) a good milestone to pick up our
work on the CMIS sandbox development and make sure that we have
something interesting to show for, for the PlugFest ;)
please let me know if you intend to join us.
regards,
david
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From: David Nuescheler
, 2009 at 8:44 PM, David Nuescheler wrote:
> Dear Jackrabbit-Devs & Sling-Devs,
>
> as you may have seen JSR-283 has been posted for proposed final draft.
> http://jcp.org/aboutJava/communityprocess/pfd/jsr283/index.html
>
> Unfortunately, there seems to be an error in
Dear Jackrabbit-Devs & Sling-Devs,
as you may have seen JSR-283 has been posted for proposed final draft.
http://jcp.org/aboutJava/communityprocess/pfd/jsr283/index.html
Unfortunately, there seems to be an error in the posting since the
download link on the page results in a "Not Found Error".
I
.org
Roy T. Fielding field...@apache.org
Stefan Guggisbergste...@apache.org
Alex Klimetschek alex...@apache.org
Philipp Koch pk...@apache.org
Felix Meschbergerfmesc...@apache.org
Thomas Mueller thom...@apache.org
David Nuescheler unc...@apache.org
Dominique Pfiste
hi guys,
to facilitate the conversation around the cmis sandbox architecture and goals
i quickly put together a little bit of documentation from my perspective
and dumped it on the wiki as a starting point.
http://wiki.apache.org/jackrabbit/SandboxCMIS
... any sort of modification would be very
hi all,
i think we are making great progress on the server side of the cmis
implementation and it is great to see both the ws and the atompub
binding progress so quickly.
since i think it should also be a goal of this implementation to
make our code as re-uable as possible, it is great that it do
hi torgeir,
just the term that you are looking for will search all properties.
just like in google.
if you want to limit the query to a certain property you prepend its name
separated by a colon. some examples.
foo // -> will find foo in all properties
title:foo
> Also, I don't think we should implement any of the HTTP
> extensions in the AtomPub binding -- they are neither
> necessary nor desirable. We should show the TC how to
> implement it right, not just implement whatever they suggest.
very good point!
this also puts us into a good position to file
+1
regards,
david
hi julian,
thanks for your comments.
>> ...
>> Since functionally the CMIS specification is a subset of the
>> JCR specification it allows a very simple and straight-forward mapping to
>> a fully compliant JCR repository such as Jackrabbit.
>> ...
> Yes, the more challenging part is the mapping *
Hi Jukka,
>> Most of the organizations on the technical committee of CMIS
>> are already heavily involved at Apache either as contributors or as
>> sponsors and are also on the JCR expert group.
> If there are existing Apache committers from other projects who'd be
> interested in working on this,
Hi all,
I am currently working in a technical committee on OASIS defining a
document management interoperability specification called CMIS [1].
CMIS shoots for a protocol level interoperability between applications
and various repository vendors.
The specification is in a very early stage and a l
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hi cedric,
as you can see in the "X
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David Nuescheler commented on JCR-1837:
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i just checked with our servlet engine ca
+1
regards,
david
Today a broad group of document management vendors lead
by IBM, Microsoft and EMC announced their efforts of around a
protocol specification for content management interoperability [1].
I would like to congratulate the group to all their efforts that has
been put into this specification and we loo
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David Nuescheler updated JCR-1556:
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Summary: PersistenceManager API change breaks backward compatibility (was:
PersistenceManager
> Yes, that is correct -- this is not about JCR compliance, but about what we
> expect *Jackrabbit* to do.
ah i see... ok, my expectation would be that jackrabbit does not throw ;)
regards,
david
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> I indeed get the expected exception, but not for
>
> n1.getProp
> n2.getProp
>
> n1.setProp
> n1.save
>
> n2.setProp
> n2.save
>
> ...which I hoped for.
i think it would be totally legitimate for a content repository to either
throw or not... personally, i would not support a test
[RT] Evolution of Persistence
To be able to address some of the performance and scalability
limitations that we run into in the past based on our growing
experience I would like to propose that we kick
off a discussion around an evolution of the persistence model
of Jackrabbit.
In various convers
hi martin,
i would agree that it makes sense to compare different technologies in terms of
their featureset...
i agree with andreas that comparing performance beyond one specific
implementation
may be complicated. generally performance is very much subject to configuration
and relevant usecases (
hi martin,
> Jackrabbits' competitors would be other implementations of jsr-170/jsr283
> (Alfresco, Exo etc.)
> But is there any technology competing with JCR (generally)? As far as I
> know there are only technologies that can do "some part of job" that JCR can
> do.
i think it depends
> > On the other hand I would really like to give people a means to
> > work with large anonymous unordered collections.
> > I think a feature that would address the "I have a bag of objects
> > and I just want to persist them without thinking of a 'name' for
> > each" usecase, would definitely be
Hi Jukka,
thanks a lot for bringing up the point.
> Support for same name siblings is troublesome and currently the best
> practice is to avoid them if possible. In many cases the default
> response when we see people having problems with SNS is to tell them
> not to use the feature.
I think one
hi alex,
> I don't want to sound as I don't appreciate this effort, but I would
> have thought that people looking into
> this direction would firstly consider the JPA annotations firstly and
> then introduce new/custom annotations for special cases (I think a
> parallel with Hibernate and its JPA
hi all,
Olafur Gauti Gudmundsson pointed me today to his effort called JCROM
(pronounced "Jack-rom"). [1]
I am excited about the refreshing, quick and simple annotation based
approach [2]
and would like to find out what everybody's thoughts are on possibly
finding synergies
with the ocm framework
excellent. congratulations to the whole team.
> I put Jukka's annoucement on Dzone to get some attention. Please vote
> for it:
cool. done ;)
regards,
david
Hi Michael,
> Which of the proposed changes have been accepted resp. will be implemented?
> http://wiki.apache.org/jackrabbit/Proposed_JCR_2.0_API_Changes
> Thanks
Thomas extracted the changes for the jackrabbit wiki from the public review
document, so these come directly from the expert group. S
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I would take the following position on this.
I think that JCR2SPI and
+1
regards,
david
Hi Michi,
> well, I want my local filesystem accessible via JCR and allowing me to
> change files still with "vi(m)" from time to time.
> Or do you consider that covered by A, B or C? But I guess my usecase is
> probably neglectable as a usecase ...
I usually use a webdav or an smb mount to be abl
hi all,
i can appreciate both positions, looking at jackrabbit as the datastore
or looking at jackrabbit as running on top of a datastore (rdbms).
personally, i don't believe that the latter perception will go away for
quite a while, so i think jackrabbit should support both views.
in my experi
Hi Bertrand,
thanks for your comment.
I agree that it is sometimes hard to make sense on an application level
of what operation triggered the creation of an event.
One way of trying to make that more meaningful was the introduction
of "method events" in JSR-283.
I think that an EventCargo API ma
hi bertrand,
i agree that this would be interesting, and could get us to a certain extent
out of the method events issue.
if you dont mind and others feel like this would be a valuable addition
you could eventually send this as a public review comment to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] so i can include it in
hi thomas,
> > But since jsr283 should be mainly backwards compatible
> It's not. Some methods now return something that didn't before.
as christoph mentioned i think those are in relatively isolated places
so we would probably try to postpone any work that would
require the api change (which in m
Hi All,
I would like to try to make the argument for the AQM and explain
why it is not about reinventing the wheel.
I personally hate long emails, so please let me apologize. If you are
interested in the topic though, I can guarantee that this will certainly
save you some time future discussions
Dear Jackrabbit Community,
I am happy to report on behalf of the JSR-283 Expert Group that JCR v2.0
has reached public review status.
During the next 60 days we will collect input from the general public about
the changes that the Expert Group propose to JCR.
I think that members of the Jackrab
Hi,
Thanks for the additional Information.
Here is what we are trying to accomplish.
We have several "sites" {Public, Local, National, Press, etc...} and wanted
to use separate workspaces for each one in order to segment the content.
However, occasionally, content from one "site" must refer to
Hi,
the JSR-170 spec explicitly states that references are within the
same workspace only. generally, there are a number of issues with
cross workspace references. to mention one, your session is
tied to one workspace and the access to another workspace
is not obvious without creating another ses
hi viraf,
thanks for your mail.
Has anyone built an application similar to that described above?
What version of Jackrabbit was used, and what were the issues that you ran into.
How much meta-data did a node carry, what was the average depth of a leaf
node, and how many nodes did you have in
: David Nuescheler
Assigned To: Stefan Guggisberg
Even though the JCR specification does not make a statement about Sessions
shared across a number of threads I think it would be great for many
applications if we could state that sharing a read-only session is supported by
Jackrabbit.
On
hi jukka,
i am very much in favor of such an approach.
My idea is to store each value in a unique and immutable "value
record" identified by a "value identifier". Duplicate values are only
stored once in a single value record. This saves space especially when
storing multiple copies of large bi
Hi Vikas,
maybe a contribution as a separate zOS DB2 Persistence Manager would
be an idea. I could certainly see something like that as a contrib.
Similar to the Oracle9BundlePersistenceManager idea from Jukka.
regards,
david
On 4/18/07, Stefan Guggisberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
hi vikas,
[ ] +1 Accept JCR Mapping from Graffito
[ ] -1 Do not accept the component because ...
+1
regards,
david
Hi Sten,
thanks for looking into that. I would like to express my support
of any effort going into that direction.
I think it would be great to have SOAP bindings for the SPI in Jackrabbit.
In combination with JCR2SPI and SPI2JCR it makes for a
very interesting remoting layer.
I think that this
hi christoph,
I'm mostly using XPath, but SQL gives me better performance if I only need a
particular property of a node in the result set.
can you elaborate on this? it would be great to have more background
information on this...
afaik, there should not be any difference in performance, and
ement with Apache Jackrabbit
Session 401: David Nuescheler
Blitzing the Content Repository: AJAX meets JCR
In addition to the JCR and Jackrabbit sessions Roy is giving a Keynote
on the topic of: "A little REST and Relaxation".
regards,
david
[1] http://jazoon.com/en/conference/ts.html
[2] http://jazoon.com/
Hi all,
after talking to Jukka and Stefan, I added the jackrabbit-jcr-wikipedia
project for the Google Summer of Code 2007 to the wiki.
http://wiki.apache.org/general/SummerOfCode2007#jackrabbit-jcr-wikipedia
Generally, I think that this application is an ideal candidate for a demo
application a
Hi,
I would like to comment on a particular section of Jukka's excellent
summary of the major topics that we need to clarify on the development
roadmap. I would like to apologize for the delay.
SPI
---
The SPI effort has been ongoing for a while already, and it would be
good to come up with a c
rk the CCLA as an addendum to the one
currently on file. You can FAX it to us (410-803-2258) or
Email a scanned copy of the signed-and-filled-out CCLA
to [EMAIL PROTECTED] *and* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanks!
On Feb 27, 2007, at 5:43 AM, David Nuescheler wrote:
> Hi Jim,
>
> I would l
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+1
regards,
david
hi peter,
i think you are right. i will file an issue in jsr-283 to make sure
that we don't
forget to fix this.
i think it would basically boil down to something like:
---
The node N and its connected subtree become read-only, with the exception
of properties and child-nodes that are set to OPV=
Hi Andreas,
sorry for my very delayed answer.
In your answer on TheServerSide, you said that "Scalability is mainly
a matter of choosing and configuring the persistence layer correctly."
Are there any scenario recommendations / best practises available?
I'll check out the website again, but ins
Hi Andreas,
Now, a news message [1] on TheServerSide about benchmarks provided
by Alfresco to prove the superiority
ermhh let's say "state" not "prove" ;)
...of their JCR implementation raises some concerns.
I guess that this may exactly have been the intention ;)
Also, the term "JCR i
[X] +1 Release the packages as Apache Jackrabbit 1.1.1
regards,
david
Hi Christophe,
Before starting my own presentation slides, are there somewhere good
slides on JCR & Jackrabbit (powerpoint, ...). This is for a technical
team.
Yes I'm lazy :-)
Try this:
http://www.day.com/o.file/cmf-2006.pdf?get=073d75dc38e1f3af470652f5e9086972
This is a preso I used recently
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David Nuescheler commented on JCR-644:
--
I think that the would initially setup his namespaces to be mapped on a
session basis to whatever makes sense for the
Hi guys,
since we ship our CRX product packaged as a .war file for
quite a while we built some helpers to allow us to have
the JCR explorer, WebDAV and a couple of other features
packaged into a single webapp.
You can see some of that running on http://jcr.day.com .
We'd be happy contribute that
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Hi Robert,
Actually one thing that I find really interesting about Alfresco - in
case anyone wants to implement it as an add-on to Jackrabbit - is the
CIFS layer which supposedly allows good access to the server (as a
document server) from Windows clients. I would imagine that using
the jCIFS l
alfresco using database to store meta, and jackrabbit using file,
No, that's simply not true.
[ I appreciate that this is not the level of discussions we should
have on this list but, I just didn't want to leave this one unanswered
in the archives. ]
John said this movement make Alfresco more
Hi David,
Personally, I think that there are going to be more volatile and
less volatile paths in a content repository based on many
different characteristics of the application(s) running on the
repository. Generally SNS paths are less stable
because they are not only impacted by "moves" of the
Hi,
However, I'm a bit concerned about the revolutionary approach of the
SPI effort. Rather than refactoring the Jackrabbit core to better
separate the session-local parts, the SPI comes up with a brand new
interface contract. This is probably the best thing to do given the
SPI goals, but it doe
Hi J,
I had already tried your approach with multiple workspaces. The problem with
that is, I don't want a workspace for every user, since there might be a lot
of users.
Do you have a lot of users that do reading and a few that actually modify
something? Or do generally all users read and write
and ;) as marcel put it:
"as a quick guideline: if you don't know how to achieve something ask on the
user list, if you think something is wrong and doesn't work as
expected use the dev list. Thank you."
Hi J,
I think that your explanations point into the direction of multiple
workspaces. If user A has a workspace A that user can make
modifications in his workspace without user B in workspace B
can see the changes. As soon as user A checks something
into the version store user B can check it out
Hi Thomas,
Thanks for your thoughtful comment.
I don't understand why it needs to be stateless (about my understanding of
stateless, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stateless_server). As far as I
see stateless means it's slower, and I really don't like slow ;-) Even HTTP
is becoming more and m
oops...
[1] http://jackrabbit.apache.org/images/arch/jackrabbit-ism.jpg
should have been:
[1] http://jackrabbit.apache.org/images/arch/jackrabbit-ism_small.jpg
Hi All,
I would like to use Jukka's initiative as a starting point to discuss
a couple of high level architecture topics around the SPI initiative
and its potential effect on the overall Jackrabbit architecture.
Please consider all of the following comments as my
personal views which I would lik
Hi Roy,
Thanks for helping me crystallize my thoughts and
trying to sharpen my statements ;)
That is why each of the core developers has veto power over the code.
If we want to ensure that every line is adequately reviewed, then ask
for the core code to be governed by the RTC (review-then-commi
Hi Nico,
Thanks for your mail.
I will work on the documentation directly on the wiki (when I can start this
task). I will ask a lot of questions *though*.
Looking forward to it ;)
One precision on the backup tool: it is working (and I am polishing the code
that needs to fit in Core). And wit
Hi Jukka,
Thanks for your thoughtful comments.
I'm most concerned about the overhead for people going in trying to
trace why Jackrabbit is behaving the way it does in some specific
issue. This is often the first step of becoming a contributor, and in
my opinion it's currently quite a high step
Hi Nico,
thanks for your explanations.
My point was unclear: I meant JR core would have more functionnality (and
some new ones are still needed) with a little bit of documentation of this
part. I would gladly work on this part with your help since I will need to
understand some parts better tha
Hi All,
Dave, thanks a lot for your input.
. Screenshots or easily downloadable sample app which
actually does something with custom node types. the base war
download is good, but how far could you go with it. Most open
source applications have a contacts application or a phone book,
or somethi
Hi JavaJ,
For each version of a node, I would like to attach additional metadata such
as the uuid of the user who created the node, a "user-friendly" version
number, user comments, etc. Has anyone tried to do something similar?
I would recommend to populate the node with additional
"versioning
Hi Roy,
first of all I think this is rather a post for the user list
than the dev list of Jackrabbit.
On 9/2/06, Roy Russo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Running in to a problem when searching jcr:data types...
"select * from portalcms:content where jcr:data like '%JBoss%'";
I assume that in you
Hi Jukka,
I think an active Object to Content mapping subproject in Jackrabbit
would be a great addition, since this really builds the bridge between
the Java Developer and JCR, basically in a similar way how something
like Hibernate or JDO makes JDBC development faster, simpler and more
reliable
+1
regards,
david
Just one little question about graphs into documentation. For example
: http://jackrabbit.apache.org/images/arch/level-2.jpg
Witch software have you use to make this picture ?
a random 3d-shader for the blocks and then (i am almost
ashamed to admit) mostly ms powerpoint ;)...
all manual labour a
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