Re: [l10n-dev] NEW Locale Data Audit - please participate!

2006-03-02 Thread Eike Rathke
Hi Samphan, On Wed, Mar 01, 2006 at 18:49:24 +0700, Samphan Raruenrom wrote: > I've used CLDR Survey Tool to enter the data. > Is this OK? Or should I file a bug? No, everything fine, the survey tool is the new way of submitting data and changes to the CLDR. When I started the audit the tool was

Re: [l10n-dev] NEW Locale Data Audit - please participate!

2006-03-01 Thread Samphan Raruenrom
I've used CLDR Survey Tool to enter the data. Is this OK? Or should I file a bug? Eike Rathke wrote: Hi Samphan, On Wed, Feb 01, 2006 at 08:17:22 +0700, Samphan Raruenrom wrote: OK. I have consulted this issue with other Thai developers. We all agree that almost all of the data in OOo is r

Re: [l10n-dev] NEW Locale Data Audit - please participate!

2006-02-10 Thread Eike Rathke
Hi Danilo, On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 21:44:50 +0100, Danilo �?egan wrote: > You can count it as voice from "people": Ok, granted ;) Thanks Eike -- OOo/SO Calc core developer. Number formatter stricken i18n transpositionizer. GnuPG key 0x293C05FD: 997A 4C60 CE41 0149 0DB3 9E96 2F1A D073 29

Re: [l10n-dev] NEW Locale Data Audit - please participate!

2006-02-09 Thread Danilo Šegan
Hi Eike, Today at 18:39, Eike Rathke wrote: > On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 14:27:03 +0100, Tomislav Randjic wrote: > >> > I will add EUR to the used currencies for *_CS, just that it opens the >> > question which would be the default. CLDR lists EUR as default. Is that >> > correct? Nope, CSD is corr

Re: [l10n-dev] NEW Locale Data Audit - please participate!

2006-02-09 Thread Eike Rathke
Hi Tomislav, On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 14:27:03 +0100, Tomislav Randjic wrote: > > I will add EUR to the used currencies for *_CS, just that it opens the > > question which would be the default. CLDR lists EUR as default. Is that > > correct? > > For now, default for sr_CS should be CSD, and EUR s

Re: [l10n-dev] NEW Locale Data Audit - please participate!

2006-02-09 Thread Kartik Mistry
>From: Eike Rathke, >Thanks, I added that to the audit document and hope my editor didn't >introduce any errors when copying the utf-8 characters. >Would you mind filing a bug against the CLDR for those items that now >have a TODO in the gu_IN audit? Please see the audit document for >pointers, a

Re: [l10n-dev] NEW Locale Data Audit - please participate!

2006-02-09 Thread Tomislav Randjic
Eike, > Another thing: I know the confusing fact that, although being a state > union, Montenegro severed its economy from Serbia, and while Serbia uses > the Serbian Dinar (CSD) as currency, Montenegro uses the Euro (EUR). > I will add EUR to the used currencies for *_CS, just that it opens the >

Re: [l10n-dev] NEW Locale Data Audit - please participate!

2006-02-07 Thread Eike Rathke
Hi Kartik, On Fri, Feb 03, 2006 at 21:24:05 +0530, Kartik Mistry wrote: > Here is what I have missed! Thanks, I added that to the audit document and hope my editor didn't introduce any errors when copying the utf-8 characters. > StartDayOfWeek - mon should be સોમ which is similar to CLDR day of

Re: [l10n-dev] NEW Locale Data Audit - please participate!

2006-02-07 Thread Eike Rathke
Hi Danilo, On Sat, Feb 04, 2006 at 01:30:51 +0100, Danilo �?egan wrote: > > 318 LC_CTYPETimeAM > Yes, uppercase AM/PM is as good as am/pm. Good, another one sorted out. I assume this is the same for Serbian Latin script then. > > 326 CurrencyCurrencySymbol > > TO

Re: [l10n-dev] NEW Locale Data Audit - please participate!

2006-02-03 Thread Danilo Šegan
Hi Eike, On January 25th, Eike Rathke wrote: > I created a new locale data audit document, 320kb > http://l10n.openoffice.org/nonav/i18n_framework/cldr/LocaleDataAudit_OOo202.html This is another audit response for Serbian (22/sr_YU/sr_CS/sr_Cyrl_CS). I am ignoring all the entries marked "obs

Re: [l10n-dev] NEW Locale Data Audit - please participate!

2006-02-03 Thread Kartik Mistry
On Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 18:21:15 +0100 Eike Rathke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ok, I'll align to CLDR. > > > Do I need to file issue for that? > > No, I'll do all changes in a bulk session when finished with the audit. Hi Eike, Thanks !! > What you didn't mention though are: > TimeAM, TimePM

Re: [l10n-dev] NEW Locale Data Audit - please participate!

2006-02-02 Thread Eike Rathke
Hi Samphan, On Thu, Feb 02, 2006 at 13:14:44 +0700, Samphan Raruenrom wrote: > >What made me wonder though is, that OOo's TimeAM and TimePM are said to > >be AM/PM and not some localized expressions as listed by the CLDR. > > > Thai normally use 24 hours system. When we use 12 hours system, we

Re: [l10n-dev] NEW Locale Data Audit - please participate!

2006-02-01 Thread Samphan Raruenrom
Eike Rathke wrote: On Wed, Feb 01, 2006 at 08:17:22 +0700, Samphan Raruenrom wrote: OK. I have consulted this issue with other Thai developers. We all agree that almost all of the data in OOo is right. Only CurrencyID discussed below has to be changed to 'THB'. For other entries, CLDR should

Re: [l10n-dev] NEW Locale Data Audit - please participate!

2006-02-01 Thread Eike Rathke
Hi Kartik, On Wed, Feb 01, 2006 at 21:12:27 +0530, Kartik Mistry wrote: > For gu_IN (Gujarati Language) these are diffrences, > > 1. Days Of Week > 2. Months Of Year > 3. And Currency Symbol > > and all these due to using wrong character ઋુ. instead of રુ ! > > Section where correct char

Re: [l10n-dev] NEW Locale Data Audit - please participate!

2006-02-01 Thread Eike Rathke
Hi Yury, On Tue, Jan 31, 2006 at 11:57:50 +0200, Yury Tarasievich wrote: > > It is safe. Just what do people expect if, for example, they have a Calc > > value cell and click the currency format icon? Do they want to see some > > sort of symbol or abbreviation, even if more than one charater or g

Re: [l10n-dev] NEW Locale Data Audit - please participate!

2006-02-01 Thread Eike Rathke
Hi Samphan, On Wed, Feb 01, 2006 at 08:17:22 +0700, Samphan Raruenrom wrote: > OK. I have consulted this issue with other Thai developers. > We all agree that almost all of the data in OOo is right. > Only CurrencyID discussed below has to be changed > to 'THB'. For other entries, CLDR should be

Re: [l10n-dev] NEW Locale Data Audit - please participate!

2006-02-01 Thread Kartik Mistry
> From: Eike Rathke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: NEW Locale Data Audit - please participate! > Hi, > > I created a new locale data audit document, 320kb > http://l10n.openoffice.org/nonav/i18n_framework/cldr/LocaleDataAudit_OOo202.html Hi Eike, For gu_IN (Gujarati Language) these are diffrences

Re: [l10n-dev] NEW Locale Data Audit - please participate!

2006-01-31 Thread Samphan Raruenrom
OK. I have consulted this issue with other Thai developers. We all agree that almost all of the data in OOo is right. Only CurrencyID discussed below has to be changed to 'THB'. For other entries, CLDR should be aligned to OOo locale. Eike Rathke wrote: Hi Samphan, On Thu, Jan 26, 2006 at 08:27

Re: [l10n-dev] NEW Locale Data Audit - please participate!

2006-01-31 Thread Yury Tarasievich
On 30 January 2006 20:00, Eike Rathke wrote: ... > > doesn't equal symbol, after all. Perhaps, we should leave ISO code there? > > Safe choice? > > It is safe. Just what do people expect if, for example, they have a Calc > value cell and click the currency format icon? Do they want to see some > so

Re: [l10n-dev] NEW Locale Data Audit - please participate!

2006-01-30 Thread Eike Rathke
Hi Yury, On Sat, Jan 28, 2006 at 11:53:34 +0200, Yury Tarasievich wrote: > > > #1387 CurrencySymbol // BYR > > > "руб." or "бел.руб." > ... > > The string length doesn't matter technically, it should be a choice of > > usage if there is no national standard. I guess few people write long > > term

Re: [l10n-dev] NEW Locale Data Audit - please participate!

2006-01-30 Thread Eike Rathke
Hi dwb, On Mon, Jan 30, 2006 at 14:51:09 +, dwb wrote: > I didn't seriously think my suggestion would fly! :-O Glad to see you give in ;-) > So, on behalf of the British I hereby declare that the first day of the > week for en-GB is Monday, as stated in BS EN 28601:1992. Accepted. > Shoul

Re: [l10n-dev] NEW Locale Data Audit - please participate!

2006-01-30 Thread dwb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Eike, Eike Rathke wrote: >>Given that both Sunday and Monday appear to be in common usage, why don't >>we consider making the first day of the week user configurable within the >>options settings? We could then default to the ISO standard (Monday) and

Re: [l10n-dev] NEW Locale Data Audit - please participate!

2006-01-30 Thread David Fraser
Eike Rathke wrote: Hi dwb, On Fri, Jan 27, 2006 at 08:57:24 +, dwb wrote: Given that both Sunday and Monday appear to be in common usage, why don't we consider making the first day of the week user configurable within the options settings? We could then default to the ISO standard (Monda

Re: [l10n-dev] NEW Locale Data Audit - please participate!

2006-01-28 Thread Yury Tarasievich
On 27 January 2006 14:43, Eike Rathke wrote: > > > > 3. gregorian:MonthsOfYear.Month.MonthID // may ... > > Well, I'd still say current ooo setting is marginally better, w/r to ... > If that is the case, then please add it to your CLDR bug report. ... > CLDR doesn't accept it, it was at least wor

Re: [l10n-dev] NEW Locale Data Audit - please participate!

2006-01-27 Thread Farzaneh Sarafraz
Hi, The locale fa_IR is missing. Maybe I should have provided this patch earlier. Anyhow, I'll try to make it complete ASAP. Shall I file an issue as well? Here is the patch: http://bamdad.org/~farzaneh/ooo/fa.patch Thanks, Farzaneh On چهارشنبه, 2006-01-25 at 21:22 +0100, Eike Rathke wrote: > I c

Re: [l10n-dev] NEW Locale Data Audit - please participate!

2006-01-27 Thread Eike Rathke
Hi dwb, On Fri, Jan 27, 2006 at 08:57:24 +, dwb wrote: > Regarding en-GB (British English), and probably the same applies to en-IE, > the only issue is over the first day of the week. > > I wrote to Dr Stockton at Surrey University - he has done research on the > subject and can offer argume

Re: [l10n-dev] NEW Locale Data Audit - please participate!

2006-01-27 Thread Eike Rathke
Hi Rail, On Fri, Jan 27, 2006 at 02:03:56 +0300, Rail Aliev wrote: > I filed an issue with patch. Thanks Eike -- OOo/SO Calc core developer. Number formatter stricken i18n transpositionizer. GnuPG key 0x293C05FD: 997A 4C60 CE41 0149 0DB3 9E96 2F1A D073 293C 05FD

Re: [l10n-dev] NEW Locale Data Audit - please participate!

2006-01-27 Thread Eike Rathke
Hi Yury, On Fri, Jan 27, 2006 at 12:38:53 +0200, Yury Tarasievich wrote: > Done. CLDR bug #962 (audit issues #1378 and #1379). Thank you. > > > 3. gregorian:MonthsOfYear.Month.MonthID // may > > > Formally, both variants are permissible. Bit of ambiguity here. Let it > > > be? > > > > If it rea

Re: [l10n-dev] NEW Locale Data Audit - please participate!

2006-01-27 Thread Yury Tarasievich
On 26 January 2006 16:17, Eike Rathke wrote: > On Thu, Jan 26, 2006 at 12:24:05 +0200, Yury Tarasievich wrote: > > Mismatches for be_BY: > > > > 1. gregorian:Eras.Era.EraID // ad, bc > > Locale data is correct in this matter, and CLDR is incorrect. > > Would you mind writing a CLDR bug report? See

Re: [l10n-dev] NEW Locale Data Audit - please participate!

2006-01-27 Thread dwb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Eike Rathke wrote: > I created a new locale data audit document, 320kb > http://l10n.openoffice.org/nonav/i18n_framework/cldr/LocaleDataAudit_OOo202.html Regarding en-GB (British English), and probably the same applies to en-IE, the only issue is over

Re: [l10n-dev] NEW Locale Data Audit - please participate!

2006-01-26 Thread Rail Aliev
On 15:53, Thu 26.01.06, Eike Rathke wrote: Hi Rail, On Thu, Jan 26, 2006 at 17:00:16 +0300, Rail Aliev wrote: 127 az_AZ (Azerbaijani_Azerbaijan) Currency name was changed after beginning of this year (denominated 1:5000). Old one is AZM and new one is AZN. AZM will be used till the end of t

Re: [l10n-dev] NEW Locale Data Audit - please participate!

2006-01-26 Thread Eike Rathke
Hi Yury, On Thu, Jan 26, 2006 at 12:24:05 +0200, Yury Tarasievich wrote: > Mismatches for be_BY: > > 1. gregorian:Eras.Era.EraID // ad, bc > Locale data is correct in this matter, and CLDR is incorrect. Would you mind writing a CLDR bug report? See the audit document for pointers. And please re

Re: [l10n-dev] NEW Locale Data Audit - please participate!

2006-01-26 Thread Eike Rathke
Hi Rail, On Thu, Jan 26, 2006 at 17:00:16 +0300, Rail Aliev wrote: > 127 az_AZ (Azerbaijani_Azerbaijan) > > Currency name was changed after beginning of this year (denominated > 1:5000). Old one is AZM and new one is AZN. AZM will be used till the end > of this year. So we need to have both in

Re: [l10n-dev] NEW Locale Data Audit - please participate!

2006-01-26 Thread Rail Aliev
On 21:22, Wed 25.01.06, Eike Rathke wrote: Hi, I created a new locale data audit document, 320kb http://l10n.openoffice.org/nonav/i18n_framework/cldr/LocaleDataAudit_OOo202.html 127 az_AZ (Azerbaijani_Azerbaijan) Currency name was changed after beginning of this year (denominated 1:5000). O

Re: [l10n-dev] NEW Locale Data Audit - please participate!

2006-01-26 Thread Eike Rathke
Hi Samphan, On Thu, Jan 26, 2006 at 08:27:53 +0700, Samphan Raruenrom wrote: > What should be used for CurrencyID? > http://l10n.openoffice.org/nonav/i18n_framework/cldr/LocaleDataAudit_OOo202.html#219 > I see inconsistencies between locales. > - bank symbol > - currency symbol > - translated cur

Re: [l10n-dev] NEW Locale Data Audit - please participate!

2006-01-26 Thread Eike Rathke
Hi Dwayne, On Thu, Jan 26, 2006 at 00:50:26 +0200, Dwayne Bailey wrote: > Out of curiosity do you have a list of locales that are in Microsoft but > not in OOo? No, but you may compare with http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/en-us/intl/nls_238z.asp I didn't check yet if that's complete though, t

Re: [l10n-dev] NEW Locale Data Audit - please participate!

2006-01-26 Thread Eike Rathke
Hi Dwayne, On Thu, Jan 26, 2006 at 00:49:16 +0200, Dwayne Bailey wrote: > 1413: This was reported under #645 to CLDR ah, I'll update that > 1414: align to CLDR. ok > LC_CURRENCY is inherited from en_ZA. en_ZA should > also be corrected to have CurrencyName=Rand. So CurrencyName in both > CL

Re: [l10n-dev] NEW Locale Data Audit - please participate!

2006-01-26 Thread Yury Tarasievich
On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 22:22:40 +0200, Eike Rathke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I created a new locale data audit document, 320kb http://l10n.openoffice.org/nonav/i18n_framework/cldr/LocaleDataAudit_OOo202.html that does a comparison between locale data as of OOo m151 and CLDR 1.3. For details and d

Re: [l10n-dev] NEW Locale Data Audit - please participate!

2006-01-25 Thread Samphan Raruenrom
What should be used for CurrencyID? http://l10n.openoffice.org/nonav/i18n_framework/cldr/LocaleDataAudit_OOo202.html#219 I see inconsistencies between locales. - bank symbol - currency symbol - translated currency name - currency name in English I see all cases in the OOo locale. Should we have a

Re: [l10n-dev] NEW Locale Data Audit - please participate!

2006-01-25 Thread Dwayne Bailey
Hi Eike, Out of curiosity do you have a list of locales that are in Microsoft but not in OOo? On Wed, 2006-01-25 at 21:22 +0100, Eike Rathke wrote: > Hi, > > I created a new locale data audit document, 320kb > http://l10n.openoffice.org/nonav/i18n_framework/cldr/LocaleDataAudit_OOo202.html > >

Re: [l10n-dev] NEW Locale Data Audit - please participate!

2006-01-25 Thread Dwayne Bailey
Hi Eike, 1413: This was reported under #645 to CLDR 1414: align to CLDR. LC_CURRENCY is inherited from en_ZA. en_ZA should also be corrected to have CurrencyName=Rand. So CurrencyName in both CLDR and OOo for en_ZA is incorrect. The other South African languages I assume are listed because the

[l10n-dev] NEW Locale Data Audit - please participate!

2006-01-25 Thread Eike Rathke
Hi, I created a new locale data audit document, 320kb http://l10n.openoffice.org/nonav/i18n_framework/cldr/LocaleDataAudit_OOo202.html that does a comparison between locale data as of OOo m151 and CLDR 1.3. For details and description please see the document. Again, I would like to ask as many p