Re: [Marketing] So, OOo infringes 45 MS patents...

2007-05-18 Thread Jonathon Blake
Alex wrote: Although our opinion on the strategies differ, they both involve MS getting heavy and pushing forward with its claims. How many small and medium sized Can Microsoft afford to be the defendant in anti-SLAPP suit? Do you have a minimum of 2 Million dollars to throw into a patent

Re: [Marketing] OOo vs MSO feature comparison - embarrassment

2007-03-25 Thread Jonathon Blake
Kirill wrote: OpenOffice.org software strength is in handling long documents.. Yet we can't handle paragraphs longer than 65535 characters (see almost 4 year old That is not the only thing in that document that is misleading. xan jonathon

Re: [Marketing] Starter for OOo (WAS Re: [Marketing] OpenOffice.org and Computer manufacturers)

2007-03-14 Thread Jonathon Blake
Chad wrote: huge backing as an alternative, not as the main stable of use. The defacto standard ... the most widely used formats of office suite type files By December 2008, roughly 50 countries will require all documents produced,or submitted to them to be in ODF format. [This is based on

Re: [Marketing] The missing .org again

2006-05-29 Thread Jonathon Blake
Daniel wrote: The FAQ could say that Open Office (with the space) is trademarked in Benelux. You can add the following for the US: [The first one is the most significant for the US. The others are useful addenda.] #1: Typed Drawing Word Mark OPEN OFFICE Goods and Services

Re: [Marketing] Microsoft dismisses OpenOffice password removal

2006-04-24 Thread Jonathon Blake
Daniel wrote: it's other people's fault for circumventing it. To the right of your email are several google adds for products that recover passwords of Microsoft products.[On my gmail account.] xan jonathon -- Ethical conduct is a vice. Corrupt conduct is a virtue. Motto of Nacarima.

Re: [Marketing] Need price information

2006-03-31 Thread Jonathon Blake
Alin wrote: I want to know the price information of your company product Open Office for corporation users. You can download it from the Internet for free. Then a burn a CD for every employee to take home and install on their system. [You can figure out how much that will cost --- I saw a

Re: [Marketing] Re: Getting OOo onto all school desktops in the UK

2006-03-17 Thread Jonathon Blake
Ian wrote: provide leadership in open standards by providing teaching materials in an Internationally recognised Open Format. What would it take to convince the British Government to do that? Especially since there is a good possibility of that material being used in/by other countries?

Re: [Marketing] Re: Getting OOo onto all school desktops in the UK

2006-03-14 Thread Jonathon Blake
Michael wrote: It could be an option to see if Ubuntu, or other linux distributors, There is a fork of Ububtu that caters just for the eduction market. xan jonathon -- Ethical conduct is a vice. Corrupt conduct is a virtue. Motto of Nacarima.

Re: [Marketing] Final call for easter egg oppinion!

2006-02-08 Thread Jonathon Blake
Charles wrote: release a build without them and submit it in the CVS. That's the way it The best idea would be to fork OOo, to create an office suite that focuses exclusively on teh corporate/educational market. [These two markets have far more in common, than either have with the individual

Re: [Marketing] Final call for easter egg oppinion!

2006-02-08 Thread Jonathon Blake
On 09/02/06, J David Eisenberg wrote: Having a fork seems a bit excessive. There are a number of other reasons to fork OOo now, rather than later. The only real question is when will OOo fork. Not if it forks. [Indeed, a case can be made that it has already forked twice. And this is without

Re: [Marketing] Goodbye and Good Luck

2005-12-21 Thread Jonathon Blake
Sam wrote: You can expect quiet attrition from this project. Let us pray that the attrition will start with the resignation of Louis and Jacqueline, to be effective at 0.00 Hours UT 24 December 2005 from OOo and Sun. xan jonathon -- AT OK ATD 911 CONNECT

[Marketing] A Christmas Present for OOo

2005-12-21 Thread Jonathon Blake
All: I' This is a public request that the following individuals give the OOo project a Christmas present: i): Jacqueline McNally [EMAIL PROTECTED] ii) : Louis Suarez-Potts [EMAIL PROTECTED]] The Christmas present I ask of them Their _immediate_ resignation from _all_ FLOSS projects that they

Re: [Marketing] French Government Lobbied to Ban Free Software

2005-12-05 Thread Jonathon Blake
Chad wrote: It doesn't make sense. It does make sense. How can the government stop people from giving out the source code that *THE PEOPLE* created? Because one of the illegitimate functions of government is to protect people from themselves. Since free libre software can, (and probably

Re: [Marketing] Top national advocate for the disabled sets terms for endorsement of OpenDocument Format

2005-11-19 Thread Jonathon Blake
Ian wrote: if indeed they are over-priced. The better screen reader was roughly ten times the price of JAWS. IIRC, it made all functions/components OOo 1.0.1 usable by blind people. [Alas, that product isn't on the market any more, a victim of good enough quality driving out high quality.]

Re: [Marketing] Top national advocate for the disabled sets terms for endorsement of OpenDocument Format

2005-11-19 Thread Jonathon Blake
Adam wrote: Don't be so quick to say this. And what is wrong with quoting what they hve publicly stated? xan jonathon -- Does your Office Suite conform to ISO Standards?

Re: [Marketing] Marketing budget for what?

2005-10-09 Thread Jonathon Blake
Ian wrote: I'd vote for spending a few 10s of millions actually making the code more efficient first. +1 One little, but crucial problem with the code, will cost roughly $120 000 000 to fix. [Assuming it is done in the US. If it is done in India, it probably will be half of that. If it

Re: [Marketing] Abiword and OpenDocument

2005-10-07 Thread Jonathon Blake
On 10/5/05, Deepankar Datta wrote: Something else of interest is the English grammar checker they now have Until grammr checkers can correctly punctuate a sentance such s the following, a knowledge of grammar will be required: John where James had had had had had had had had had had had the

Re: [Marketing] Abiword and OpenDocument

2005-10-07 Thread Jonathon Blake
Chad wrote: What is your point? Until a grammar checker can correctly punctuate a sentence such as the one I gave, it is gauranteed to provide corrections that are incorrect. xan jonathon -- Does your Office Suite conform to ISO Standards?

Re: [Marketing] U offers nearly free Office suite

2005-09-08 Thread Jonathon Blake
Chad wrote: They don't have anyone to transfer their years of data from their current database into a more open one That scenario is standard for SOHO land. And will remain so until somebody can come up with tools that will auto magically convert years, if not decades of accumulated data to OOo

Re: [Marketing] Has anyone heard of this product, EasyOffice?

2005-08-29 Thread Jonathon Blake
Chad wrote: EasyOffice has been brought up several times on the list before. Three threads in mrketing since 9/04. Two threads on social since 2 jan 05. Three threads on users since 10/04. At least according to my personal OOo list archives. xan jonathon -- Does your Office Suite conform to

Re: [Marketing] article: LinuxWorld 2005 Thursday

2005-08-20 Thread Jonathon Blake
On 8/15/05, swhiser wrote: What's wrong with Marketing that Erwin needs to initiate having a booth in the .ORG Pavilion? Marketing within OOo tends to reject _all_ ideas that they have not proposed, unless presented fait accompli. At which point they shoot the messenger for deviating

Re: [Marketing] Window closing on Office 2003

2005-07-21 Thread Jonathon Blake
Graham wrote: lack of interoperabilty with common accountancy packages such as Quickbooks and MYOB. I have seen macros that enable one to read/import their file types into OOo. The issue is getting those companies to add the capacity to read/write data in an appropriate OOo format. Part

Re: [Marketing] What does the marketing project *need* to do?

2005-02-18 Thread Jonathon Blake
Christian wrote: Why are people neglecting the current To-Do's which exist They are all but impossible to find. They are of no apparent relevance. If you watch the lists long enough, you'll learn that the most effective way to do something, is to do it _without_ announcing, or mentioning it

Re: [Marketing] What does the marketing project *need* to do?

2005-02-18 Thread Jonathon Blake
Charles wrote: How come you or others did not say this earlier? Maybe you did, but then really it went unnoticed, Pick two years randomly. Pick two random numbers between 1 and 366. Put the first year with the second random number. Read all the emails for that day on all of the OOo lists.

Re: [Marketing] What does the marketing project *need* to do?

2005-02-18 Thread Jonathon Blake
Eric wrote: The prime effective operating size of a team is 5-8 members; and that's not anecdotal. Very true. The last time I looked OOoAuthors had over a 100 people subscribed. I don't know how many of them have contributed material. A lot more have reviewed material, than written original

Re: [Marketing] Banners for booths at conferences

2005-02-14 Thread Jonathon Blake
Eric wrote: I've had the idea of creating some 'marketing kits' for some time now, Is there _one_ list somewhere, that has what a marketing kit should include, and where those items can be downloaded from? Something like: banner: http://www.downloadfrom.here CD:

Re: [Marketing] Conferences and marketing.

2005-02-13 Thread Jonathon Blake
Graham wrote: For me set me up a booth at a Microsoft conference, nothing like selling Fire Extinguishers to the Devil. Now that would be fun. :) Do you want to give OOo to a bunch of microsofties? each parted with a little bit of cash,probably less than their daily coffee budget we