Re: Docs: remaining questions

2006-06-19 Thread Brett Porter
On 20/06/2006 7:19 AM, John Casey wrote: 1) should we drop the standard reports from the maven site? I never was really pushing to drop reports altogether; it just didn't really make sense to me to have them on the main site, in addition to the individual reference pages. IMO, until we can a

Re: [proposal] Maven front page, navigation

2006-06-19 Thread Thierry Barnier
+1 2006/6/19, Brett Porter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: (adapted from "Making the current web site suck less" initial proposal, based on user/dev feedback) I'm embarrassed to say that the front page looks a whole lot like the one I created about this time last year for 2.0 alpha 1. I think it needs an

Re: Please sync ...

2006-06-19 Thread Carlos Sanchez
done On 6/19/06, Jochen Wiedmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: the following directories on people.apache.org: /www/www.apache.org/dist/maven-repository/org/apache/ws/commons/ws-commons-java5/ /www/www.apache.org/dist/maven-repository/org/apache/ws/commons/ws-commons-util/ Thank you, Jochen

Re: Docs: remaining questions

2006-06-19 Thread John Casey
comments inline. Cheers, john 1) should we drop the standard reports from the maven site? I never was really pushing to drop reports altogether; it just didn't really make sense to me to have them on the main site, in addition to the individual reference pages. IMO, until we can aggregate

Please sync ...

2006-06-19 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
the following directories on people.apache.org: /www/www.apache.org/dist/maven-repository/org/apache/ws/commons/ws-commons-java5/ /www/www.apache.org/dist/maven-repository/org/apache/ws/commons/ws-commons-util/ Thank you, Jochen --

Re: [Proposal] Documenting Maven

2006-06-19 Thread Raphaël Piéroni
Hi Jason and List, The last result was on the mavenuser wiki. I can also found some paper notes i wrote some month ago. If you are interrested, i could rewrote what i had. Raphaël 2006/6/19, Jason van Zyl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: On 19 Jun 06, at 8:37 AM 19 Jun 06, Brett Porter wrote: > > Do

Re: [Proposal] Documenting Maven

2006-06-19 Thread Rinku
Hi, Some sites: [A] http://java.sun.com/javase/ [B] http://ant.apache.org/ Some notes: 1) L.H.S nav categories are concise. For example, "Reference" in [A] above has links to all documentation resources. "Community" has all the stuff about forums, issues etc etc (can map to JIRA, mailing l

[ANN] Maven War Plugin 1.6.2 for Maven 1.x Released

2006-06-19 Thread Stephane Nicoll
The maven team is pleased to announce the Maven WAR Plugin 1.6.2 release! http://maven.apache.org/maven-1.x/plugins/war/ War Plugin for Maven Changes in this version include: New Features: o Aded the ability to customize the Class-Path entry of the manifest Issue: MPWAR-43. o Added property

[ANN] Maven Eclipse Plugin 1.11 for Maven 1.x Released

2006-06-19 Thread Stephane Nicoll
The maven team is pleased to announce the Maven Eclipse Plugin 1.11 release! http://maven.apache.org/maven-1.x/plugins/eclipse/ A plugin to generate various files for the Eclipse IDE and ease the use of Maven within that environment. Changes in this version include: New Features: o Added new

[ANN] Maven XDoc Plugin 1.10 for Maven 1.x released

2006-06-19 Thread Lukas Theussl
We are pleased to announce the Maven XDoc Plugin 1.10 release! http://maven.apache.org/maven-1.x/plugins/xdoc/ Convert xdocs into HTML. === Changes in this version include: New Features: o Add a public DTD identif

[ANN] Maven Distribution Plugin 1.7 for Maven 1.x released

2006-06-19 Thread Lukas Theussl
We are pleased to announce the Maven Distribution Plugin 1.7 release! http://maven.apache.org/maven-1.x/plugins/dist/ === Changes in this version include: New Features: o New property maven.dist.include.dirs to inc

Re: suggestions for handling native libraries

2006-06-19 Thread Richard van der Hoff
Mark Donszelmann wrote: Hi System.load: - for the user we still need to make some assembly goal that grabs all the shared and jni like libs and puts them in a lib directory. A small setup script can then set the appropriate ld_library_path or the like. - for maven the nar plugin includes an

Re: suggestions for handling native libraries

2006-06-19 Thread Mark Donszelmann
Hi System.load: - for the user we still need to make some assembly goal that grabs all the shared and jni like libs and puts them in a lib directory. A small setup script can then set the appropriate ld_library_path or the like. - for maven the nar plugin includes an integration test goal

[proposal] Maven front page, navigation

2006-06-19 Thread Brett Porter
(adapted from "Making the current web site suck less" initial proposal, based on user/dev feedback) I'm embarrassed to say that the front page looks a whole lot like the one I created about this time last year for 2.0 alpha 1. I think it needs an update. IMO, the front page should be: * an intr

Re: Docs: remaining questions

2006-06-19 Thread Jesse McConnell
comments inline... 1) should we drop the standard reports from the maven site? I would agree with that 'new brand of puppy chow' version of this question...I would keep these generating though to a 'old style' link until something better is all hammered out and in place.. 2) JIRA & documen

Re: svn commit: r415349 - in /maven/surefire/trunk/surefire-booter: ./ src/main/java/org/apache/maven/surefire/booter/ src/main/java/org/apache/maven/surefire/booter/output/ src/test/ src/test/java/ s

2006-06-19 Thread Trygve Laugstøl
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Author: carlos Date: Mon Jun 19 08:00:44 2006 New Revision: 415349 URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=415349&view=rev Log: [MSUREFIRE-136] Added option to redirect test output to a file, redirectTestOutputToFile How is this different that useFile=true? Should this

Re: Plugin documentation standard

2006-06-19 Thread Brett Porter
I agree, I think there are some lessons to be learned from this for apis and other project types in general (archetypes, and so on), and the same tools can be used. Worth keeping in mind, but I believe we've identified a particular problem with plugin docs and should work to improve that asap.

Re: suggestions for handling native libraries

2006-06-19 Thread Richard van der Hoff
Mark Donszelmann wrote: The NAR gets unpacked in the local repository under the directory where the jar file is stored, so underneath a parent directory with that version number. Ah ha, I see. In that case, how does your System.load() call know where to find the library? I guess it has knowle

RE: Plugin documentation standard

2006-06-19 Thread Ruel Loehr
Why stop at a plugin? Wouldn't this be valuable to have for thirdparty dependencies as well? Ruel Loehr JBoss QA - 512-342-7840 ext 2011 Yahoo: ruelloehr Skype: ruelloehr AOL: dokoruel -Original Message- From: Jason van Zyl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent:

Re: action items

2006-06-19 Thread Jason van Zyl
On 19 Jun 06, at 10:14 AM 19 Jun 06, Brett Porter wrote: Hi, Aside from the stuff related to plugin documentation, we have some other things to do. Same approach - here's a list, looking for a show of hands on who's interested (or if these seem wrong). Eventually all need to get to JIRA:

Re: Plugin documentation standard

2006-06-19 Thread Brett Porter
On 20/06/2006 12:56 AM, Jason van Zyl wrote: Make a plugin to check all these thing and plug it into the validation phase. This is all nice to enumerate but it will only take effect when it is easy for people to comply. Yah, sorry, I assumed everyone knew what docck was by osmosis or somethin

Re: Plugin documentation standard

2006-06-19 Thread Jason van Zyl
On 19 Jun 06, at 9:47 AM 19 Jun 06, Brett Porter wrote: Hi, Just thought I'd break this one out. This needs to be converted to a guide - which is one of the tasks I'll list at the end. (this is MNG-1987, btw) * Required POM Elements - modelVersion, version, group ID, artifact ID, packagi

Re: Docs: remaining questions

2006-06-19 Thread Brett Porter
Not sure if this is serious, but I'm asking if the other guys are suggesting we develop a new brand of dog food to eat. - Brett On 20/06/2006 12:33 AM, Jochen Wiedmann wrote: On 6/19/06, Brett Porter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 1) should we drop the standard reports from the maven site? -1

RE: Request for release of maven-archiver-plugin

2006-06-19 Thread Mike Perham
I can continue to work with Jochen. Jochen, if you want to go through JIRA and send me pointers to issues you think are ready, please do. I'll have a few hours to spend on this tomorrow night. > -Original Message- > From: Brett Porter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, June 19, 2

Re: Docs: remaining questions

2006-06-19 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
On 6/19/06, Brett Porter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 1) should we drop the standard reports from the maven site? -1 (Eat your own dog food. :-) -- Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. (Mark Twain) -

Re: suggestions for handling native libraries

2006-06-19 Thread Mark Donszelmann
The jar file and its attached nar files share one pom, so are associated to one version. The NAR gets unpacked in the local repository under the directory where the jar file is stored, so underneath a parent directory with that version number. Nothing is currently done about locking the f

Re: Configure plugins through settings.xml

2006-06-19 Thread John Allen
Tomasz Pik gmail.com> writes: > > Hello, > > It's currently not possible but generally I think it would be nice to have > possibility to configure plugins through profiles using $HOME/.m2/settings.xml Please note there are some bugs in maven that prevent all of the aspects of plugin configurat

Docs: remaining questions

2006-06-19 Thread Brett Porter
Hi (again), From reviewing the threads, I found the following things to still be a bit up in the air so thought there should be further discussion: 1) should we drop the standard reports from the maven site? Tim and John C seemed to think so (if I understand John's stand), among others (Bria

action items

2006-06-19 Thread Brett Porter
Hi, Aside from the stuff related to plugin documentation, we have some other things to do. Same approach - here's a list, looking for a show of hands on who's interested (or if these seem wrong). Eventually all need to get to JIRA: - apply the maven site skin consistently (MNG-1212) - site s

Plugin documentation standard

2006-06-19 Thread Brett Porter
Hi, Just thought I'd break this one out. This needs to be converted to a guide - which is one of the tasks I'll list at the end. (this is MNG-1987, btw) * Required POM Elements - modelVersion, version, group ID, artifact ID, packaging (required anyway to build) - name - description - url -

Re: Request for release of maven-archiver-plugin

2006-06-19 Thread Brett Porter
They should be the ones scheduled for 2.1 (and there may be some unscheduled that should be scheduled - I haven't reviewed recently). I know at least that Jerome had a queue of patches. I've been meaning to take a look if anyone can take an assessment (or better, a committer run with it),

Re: Plugin documentation standard

2006-06-19 Thread Brett Porter
Here's some additions, sorry I missed these: # must have link to the API docs of of additional types (eg MavenArchiveConfiguration) # must describe how the configuration of some elements affects others, where applicable (for example, surefire's suiteXmlFiles disables the includes/excludes opti

Re: [Proposal] Documenting Maven

2006-06-19 Thread Jason van Zyl
On 19 Jun 06, at 8:56 AM 19 Jun 06, Brett Porter wrote: Pretty hesitant to modify APT since we got it from another source (afraid I already violated that with || for table headers). Oh, it was maimed the second it arrive here :-) Is there a standard way we can add extra markup? Is it some

Re: Request for release of maven-archiver-plugin

2006-06-19 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
On 6/19/06, Brett Porter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: maven-archiver-plugin doesn't exist (it's just maven-archiver, a component). Right, sorry. That can be released when the JAR plugin is, but there are a number of other scheduled issues for 2.1 that need to be fixed first (I think some of t

Re: [Proposal] Documenting Maven

2006-06-19 Thread Jason van Zyl
On 19 Jun 06, at 8:56 AM 19 Jun 06, Brett Porter wrote: Pretty hesitant to modify APT since we got it from another source (afraid I already violated that with || for table headers). Oh, it was maimed the second it arrive here :-) Is there a standard way we can add extra markup? Is it some

Re: [Proposal] Documenting Maven

2006-06-19 Thread Jason van Zyl
On 19 Jun 06, at 8:54 AM 19 Jun 06, Brett Porter wrote: On 19/06/2006 10:47 PM, Jason van Zyl wrote: Then I'll work with John and yourself to bring them back into the discussions on the mailing list. I'm curious to see what might fall out though I might just be setting myself up to be dis

Re: Request for release of maven-archiver-plugin

2006-06-19 Thread Brett Porter
maven-archiver-plugin doesn't exist (it's just maven-archiver, a component). That can be released when the JAR plugin is, but there are a number of other scheduled issues for 2.1 that need to be fixed first (I think some of the new functionality is not completely implemented/documented). - Br

Re: [Proposal] Documenting Maven

2006-06-19 Thread Brett Porter
Pretty hesitant to modify APT since we got it from another source (afraid I already violated that with || for table headers). Is there a standard way we can add extra markup? Is it something that is also possible in other input formats? (I guess But yes, I think that's a good idea. I don't ha

Request for release of maven-archiver-plugin

2006-06-19 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
Hi, as MJAR-38 and MJAR-39 are now fixed and as suggested by Brett in http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MJAR-38#action_67562 How about releasing the maven-archiver-plugin and the maven-jar-plugin? Thanks, Jochen - To unsu

Re: [Proposal] Documenting Maven

2006-06-19 Thread Brett Porter
On 19/06/2006 10:47 PM, Jason van Zyl wrote: Then I'll work with John and yourself to bring them back into the discussions on the mailing list. I'm curious to see what might fall out though I might just be setting myself up to be disappointed by lack of involvement but I'll give a shot. I think

Re: [Proposal] Documenting Maven

2006-06-19 Thread Jason van Zyl
On 19 Jun 06, at 8:39 AM 19 Jun 06, Brett Porter wrote: We should have (a possibly categorised) index. What if we slightly altered the the APT parser to pick up a tags/ categories identifier? We could even just put it in the title line so we could start categorizing today. Something like:

Re: [Proposal] Documenting Maven

2006-06-19 Thread Jason van Zyl
On 19 Jun 06, at 8:37 AM 19 Jun 06, Brett Porter wrote: Do we really think there are any ideas that haven't been encountered in all these messages? Absolutely. If 10 people make a site I guarantee you something will fall out that hasn't been seen. If users don't want to help in this

Re: [Proposal] Documenting Maven

2006-06-19 Thread Brett Porter
We should have (a possibly categorised) index. On 19/06/2006 10:30 PM, Jeff Jensen wrote: Contrarian, one thing that is useful about the current approach is the browser search feature. It works pretty well to find the topics on a doc page with lots of entries and common search words. Hopefully

Re: [Proposal] Documenting Maven

2006-06-19 Thread Jason van Zyl
On 19 Jun 06, at 8:30 AM 19 Jun 06, Jeff Jensen wrote: Contrarian, one thing that is useful about the current approach is the browser search feature. It works pretty well to find the topics on a doc page with lots of entries and common search words. Hopefully the reorg solution doesn't l

Re: [Proposal] Documenting Maven

2006-06-19 Thread Brett Porter
On 19/06/2006 10:16 PM, Jason van Zyl wrote: A lot of the folks here and users had ideas on how to make the site better so how about we solicit for a users' favourite site with respect to usability. Actually, that's what I was aiming for. There was a lot of feedback before, so I wanted to ma

Re: [vote] Release all wagons (was Re: [vote] Release wagon-webdav 1.0-beta-1)

2006-06-19 Thread Emmanuel Venisse
Result: binding +1: 6 non-binding +1 : 3 Emmanuel Mike Perham a écrit : +1 -Original Message- From: Emmanuel Venisse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 2:51 PM To: Maven Developers List Subject: Re: [vote] Release all wagons (was Re: [vote] Release wagon-webdav

RE: [Proposal] Documenting Maven

2006-06-19 Thread Jeff Jensen
Contrarian, one thing that is useful about the current approach is the browser search feature. It works pretty well to find the topics on a doc page with lots of entries and common search words. Hopefully the reorg solution doesn't lose a search-ability/adds a better search. -Original Messa

Re: [Proposal] Documenting Maven

2006-06-19 Thread Jason van Zyl
On 19 Jun 06, at 8:08 AM 19 Jun 06, Geoffrey De Smet wrote: Humans aren't capable to read more then 9 entries. Many of the questions asked on the user list are actually in the guides. So why don't they find it? http://maven.apache.org/guides/index.html links to a lot of good guides, but the

Re: [Proposal] Documenting Maven

2006-06-19 Thread Jason van Zyl
On 19 Jun 06, at 12:37 AM 19 Jun 06, Brett Porter wrote: John Casey wrote: Hi everyone, I know we've talked about this quite a bit already. Actually, I'm having trouble finding the past threads on this topic in my email...can someone who knows please link them in? btw: http://mail-archi

Re: [Proposal] Documenting Maven

2006-06-19 Thread Brett Porter
Yep, I think this thread was unanimous on that point. - Brett On 19/06/2006 10:08 PM, Geoffrey De Smet wrote: Humans aren't capable to read more then 9 entries. Many of the questions asked on the user list are actually in the guides. So why don't they find it? http://maven.apache.org/guides/in

Re: [Proposal] Documenting Maven

2006-06-19 Thread Geoffrey De Smet
Humans aren't capable to read more then 9 entries. Many of the questions asked on the user list are actually in the guides. So why don't they find it? http://maven.apache.org/guides/index.html links to a lot of good guides, but the way it is structured is plain wrong imho: - When people want to

Re: [jira] Closed: (MSITE-149) tag is ignored for plugins in the section of the POM

2006-06-19 Thread Brett Porter
Was this actually fixed, or "Cannot reproduce"? - Brett On 19/06/2006 7:46 PM, Edwin Punzalan (JIRA) wrote: [ http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MSITE-149?page=all ] Edwin Punzalan closed MSITE-149: Assign To: Edwin Punzalan Resolution: Fixed

Re: suggestions for handling native libraries

2006-06-19 Thread Richard van der Hoff
Mark Donszelmann wrote: Hi in the freehep-nar-plugin (for maven 1, being ported to maven 2) we have such a solution. > Hrm, I wish I'd heard about this sooner! Sounds very interesting. I have a couple of questions... Do you unpack all nar files into the same directory? If so, how do you dea

Re: svn commit: r415252 - in /maven/sandbox/plugins/maven-docck-plugin/src/main/java/org/apache/maven/plugin/docck: AbstractCheckDocumentationMojo.java CheckPluginDocumentationMojo.java

2006-06-19 Thread Brett Porter
started - last_changed AFAIK So in this case, just 2006. - Brett On 19/06/2006 5:03 PM, Edwin Punzalan wrote: Heheh, I didn't notice that... I just copied that from the other class. ^_^ btw, is that supposed to be 2006 only or 2001-2006 ? I remember Carlos said I'd change only the latter

Re: svn commit: r415252 - in /maven/sandbox/plugins/maven-docck-plugin/src/main/java/org/apache/maven/plugin/docck: AbstractCheckDocumentationMojo.java CheckPluginDocumentationMojo.java

2006-06-19 Thread Edwin Punzalan
Heheh, I didn't notice that... I just copied that from the other class. ^_^ btw, is that supposed to be 2006 only or 2001-2006 ? I remember Carlos said I'd change only the latter part Brett Porter wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: + * Copyright 2001-2005 The Apache Software Foundation. B