Re: ranges and cascading releases was: [VOTE]: release maven-changes-plugin 2.6

2011-06-20 Thread Kristian Rosenvold
Technically I'd get away with updating 2-3 artifacts, but I'd end up writing a cookbook on how to add a crapload of dependencies to the plugins in question and answering on the mailing list and irc, and in the end we'd have a ton of poms lying around with 3 overridden dependencies in 4-5 plugin

Re: ranges and cascading releases was: [VOTE]: release maven-changes-plugin 2.6

2011-06-20 Thread Brett Porter
Kristian can describe in more detail what he's working on, but not all changes take 8 artifact changes. In this case I think it's both that it's something that affects multiple things (rather than dependencies), and also a couple of things that have been broken down to one too separate many arti

Re: [VOTE]: release maven-changes-plugin 2.6

2011-06-20 Thread Benson Margulies
Please make a new thread. On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 5:51 PM, Mark Derricutt wrote: > (Other) Mark, > > I'm not sure I see the connection here?  Lukas had made comment that making > one release would trigger cascading releases, which I assume is because > downstream plugins have fixed version number

Re: [VOTE]: release maven-changes-plugin 2.6

2011-06-20 Thread Mark Derricutt
(Other) Mark, I'm not sure I see the connection here? Lukas had made comment that making one release would trigger cascading releases, which I assume is because downstream plugins have fixed version number dependencies. However if those dependencies were [1.0,2.0) then they would use the most re

Re: [VOTE]: release maven-changes-plugin 2.6

2011-06-20 Thread Mark Struberg
Mark, maybe this is not so obvious, but Maven internally has ClassLoader isolation between plugins. This is comparable to a servlet container where 1 webapp only can see its own classes. This way it is no problem that there are more versions of a plugin (or any other dependency) being used in t

Re: [VOTE]: release maven-changes-plugin 2.6

2011-06-20 Thread Mark Derricutt
Wow - that seems like a hell of a lot of releases having to be made... This post is probably drifting off topic but the thing that strikes me here is that this is the exact reason why maven supports version ranges - so that you don't have to make a plethora of rolling releases just because one cha

REMINDER: Participation Requested: Survey about Open-Source Software Development

2011-06-20 Thread Jeffrey Carver
Hi, Apologies for any inconvenience and thank you to those who have already completed the survey. We will keep the survey open for another couple of weeks. But, we do hope you will consider responding to the email request below (sent 2 weeks ago). Thanks, Dr. Jeffrey Carver Assistant Professor U

Re: Missing javax.servlet:jstl:1.2

2011-06-20 Thread Mark Struberg
actually I think javax.jstl NEVER have been on maven.central. It originally was hosted on java.net, but they killed parts of their maven repo while migrating from sun to oracle. There is of course an ALv2 version of jstl: http://repo1.maven.org/maven2/org/apache/geronimo/bundles/jstl/1.2_1/ Li

Re: Missing javax.servlet:jstl:1.2

2011-06-20 Thread Anders Hammar
I though artifacts were supposed to never change at central... This could break people's builds. /Anders On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 19:00, Paul Gier wrote: > It seems that the artifacts were moved to a different location: > https://issues.sonatype.org/browse/MVNCENTRAL-71 > > On 06/20/2011 10:41 A

Re: Missing javax.servlet:jstl:1.2

2011-06-20 Thread Paul Gier
It seems that the artifacts were moved to a different location: https://issues.sonatype.org/browse/MVNCENTRAL-71 On 06/20/2011 10:41 AM, Paul Gier wrote: > The artifacts for javax.servlet:jstl:1.2 seem to have disappeared from > central [1]. They still appear in the Sonatype search [2]. Does any

Missing javax.servlet:jstl:1.2

2011-06-20 Thread Paul Gier
The artifacts for javax.servlet:jstl:1.2 seem to have disappeared from central [1]. They still appear in the Sonatype search [2]. Does anyone know what happened to these files? Were they removed because of a bad license or something? [1]http://repo1.maven.org/maven2/javax/servlet/jstl/ [2]http

Re: When to make a release of a Maven component / plugin

2011-06-20 Thread Baptiste MATHUS
Hi, I'm no Maven PMC member, but please don't care about the kind of recent mail that was recently received here. This was only clueless flaming, not well-thought and constructive critics that would have had a chance to improve something. Having frequent releases is a good thing for people to see

Re: [VOTE]: release maven-changes-plugin 2.6

2011-06-20 Thread Lukas Theussl
Gavin McDonald wrote: -Original Message- From: Benson Margulies [mailto:bimargul...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, 20 June 2011 9:00 PM To: Maven Developers List Cc: ga...@16degrees.com.au Subject: Re: [VOTE]: release maven-changes-plugin 2.6 Gavin, When you sent your message containing

Re: [VOTE]: release maven-changes-plugin 2.6

2011-06-20 Thread Lukas Theussl
Gavin, Don't take it personal. I have expressed my opinion like you have expressed yours, and we are both entitled to do so. But you have to realize that your comments were taken with offence by some developers. I have been with maven for several years now, I know we have taken criticism for

Re: [VOTE]: release maven-changes-plugin 2.6

2011-06-20 Thread Benson Margulies
Gavin, Since I seem to have misread your tone, I apologize. --benson On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 7:53 AM, Gavin McDonald wrote: > > >> -Original Message- >> From: Benson Margulies [mailto:bimargul...@gmail.com] >> Sent: Monday, 20 June 2011 9:00 PM >> To: Maven Developers List >> Cc: ga...

RE: [VOTE]: release maven-changes-plugin 2.6

2011-06-20 Thread Gavin McDonald
> -Original Message- > From: Benson Margulies [mailto:bimargul...@gmail.com] > Sent: Monday, 20 June 2011 9:00 PM > To: Maven Developers List > Cc: ga...@16degrees.com.au > Subject: Re: [VOTE]: release maven-changes-plugin 2.6 > > Gavin, > > When you sent your message containing the wor

Re: [VOTE]: release maven-changes-plugin 2.6

2011-06-20 Thread Benson Margulies
Gavin, When you sent your message containing the words, "ignore me," I was planning to take you at your word. But since you seem to have continued to continue your campaign of sneer here I guess I'll respond. 1: As it turned out, the vote that started all this concerned 10 issues. I was misled by

When to make a release of a Maven component / plugin

2011-06-20 Thread Stephen Connolly
Recently a release vote received some criticism about whether the release candidate contained sufficient changes to deserve a release. Here is my position as a member of the Maven PMC. If you are a Maven Committer and you think that a specific plugin / component has a change which _you_ are prepa

Re: [VOTE]: release maven-changes-plugin 2.6

2011-06-20 Thread Stephen Connolly
On 20 June 2011 10:48, Gavin McDonald wrote: > > >> -Original Message- >> From: Lukas Theussl [mailto:ltheu...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Lukas Theussl >> Sent: Monday, 20 June 2011 7:25 PM >> To: Maven Developers List >> Subject: Re: [VOTE]: release maven-changes-plugin 2.6 >> >> >> >> Gavin

RE: [VOTE]: release maven-changes-plugin 2.6

2011-06-20 Thread Gavin McDonald
> -Original Message- > From: Lukas Theussl [mailto:ltheu...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Lukas Theussl > Sent: Monday, 20 June 2011 7:25 PM > To: Maven Developers List > Subject: Re: [VOTE]: release maven-changes-plugin 2.6 > > > > Gavin McDonald wrote: > > > > > >> -Original Message---

Re: [VOTE]: release maven-changes-plugin 2.6

2011-06-20 Thread Lukas Theussl
Gavin McDonald wrote: -Original Message- From: Benson Margulies [mailto:bimargul...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, 19 June 2011 6:08 AM To: Maven Developers List; Maven Project Management Committee List Subject: [VOTE]: release maven-changes-plugin 2.6 Hi, We solved 3 issues: Really? Y

Re: maven-core tests fail when invoked via ant.

2011-06-20 Thread Kasun Gajasinghe
On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 11:41 AM, Kristian Rosenvold < kristian.rosenv...@gmail.com> wrote: > I somehow think that if I was to do this integration I'd consider reversing > the order; build maven3 from scratch > and then use maven3 to build the older versions. > > Kristian, Thanks for the suggestio