Re: [RESULT] [VOTE] Release Apache Maven 3.0-alpha-4

2009-11-18 Thread Brian Fox
I searched on the asf repository [1], [2] but I didn't found it : [1] https://repository.apache.org/index.html#nexus-search;quick~org.apache.mavenhttps://repository.apache.org/index.html#nexus-search;quick%7Eorg.apache.maven [2]

Re: Non-unique Snapshot Deployments is not in Maven 3

2009-11-17 Thread Brian Fox
This use case currently isn't covered, you're right and it's really the only reason anymore to use non unique snapshots. Bringing this over to @dev to figure out what to do. On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 3:41 PM, Paul Benedict pbened...@apache.org wrote: I did read the link. I thought Jason was saying

Re: Using a specific plugin version in custom lifecycle

2009-11-17 Thread Brian Fox
Personally I didn't even know you could put a version into the lifecycle, I've never seen that done. Second, I always subscribe to the theory that closest wins. In the inheritance case, it means things in my pom override my parent pom, which overrides the grandparent etc. I think in this case,

Re: [VOTE] Commit access for Igor Fedorenko

2009-11-16 Thread Brian Fox
Vote results: +14 : Jason, Jesse, Oliver, Brett, John, Herve, Oleg, Benjamin, Mark, Arnaud, Lucas, Ralph, Nicolas, Brian Igor, congratulations, sorry for the delay. On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 10:51 PM, Brett Porter br...@apache.org wrote: time to close this vote? :) On 28/07/2009, at 6:52 PM,

Re: Proposal after-the-fact: Experimental multithreading support

2009-11-14 Thread Brian Fox
This is more a plan to implement the existing multi-threading patch than an actual proposal. Imo a proposal should describe the solution...ie how will this multi-threading work, how will it decide what to build and in what order, etc. I think essentially the details you Ralph and I briefly

Re: Site Update for Maven 3.0-alpha-3

2009-11-13 Thread Brian Fox
The stable versions are 2.0.10 and 2.2.1, 2.1.0 is not considered stable. On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 1:59 AM, Stevo Slavić ssla...@gmail.com wrote: IMO 2.1.0 should stay as it is, if I'm not mistaken, most recent stable release of maven which is compatible with Java 1.4. When maven 2.2.1 is

Re: version${project.version}/version

2009-11-13 Thread Brian Fox
In snapshots that used to be a problem but was fixed ~2.0.6ish. The properties aren't interpolated on deploy so it works ok. On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 1:23 PM, Alan D. Cabrera l...@toolazydogs.com wrote: A while back this would not have been a safe thing to do.  Will this now work correctly?

Re: IT failure (was: [VOTE] Release Apache Maven 3.0-alpha-3)

2009-11-12 Thread Brian Fox
That sounds like the one that is supposed to be fixed in alpha-4 On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 8:20 AM, Brett Porter br...@apache.org wrote: Doesn't affect my vote, but I noted that this IT fails on 3.0-alpha-3, even though it is marked as fixed in JIRA: - mng4361ForceDependencySnapshotUpdate

Re: integration test versioning policy?

2009-11-12 Thread Brian Fox
There should be a start and end range for the tests. These new ones start in alpha-4-snapshot and end ] On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 8:20 AM, Brett Porter br...@apache.org wrote: Hi, I ran the ITs against 3.0-alpha-3 and got a number of failures. Several of those are because they are fixed in

Re: Use-case for multiple plugin entries in the same plugins section

2009-11-12 Thread Brian Fox
You should use the inherited element of the execution for that. On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 4:43 AM, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: Just thought of a use-case for listing the same plugin twice in the one plugins section namely inheritedtrue/inherited and

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Maven 3.0-alpha-3

2009-11-11 Thread Brian Fox
+1 On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 6:35 PM, Paul Gier pg...@redhat.com wrote: +1 I tested it on a few projects and in general it seems to be working well. I ran into a problem resolving local snapshots with classifiers after I had just installed them which appears to be related to an existing

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Source-Release Assembly Descriptor 1.0.2

2009-11-11 Thread Brian Fox
+1 On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 10:25 AM, Olivier Lamy ol...@apache.org wrote: +1 2009/11/8 Benjamin Bentmann benjamin.bentm...@udo.edu: Hi, This is a maintenance release for the assembly descriptor that we use to create ASF-compliant source distros. This release fixes a bug in version 1.0.1

Re: Scandinavian maven2 mirror !

2009-11-11 Thread Brian Fox
1) Where did you get the artifacts? 2) It's pretty out of date: http://maven.sensate.se/maven2/last_updated.txt On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 10:02 AM, Rickard Lundin rickard.lun...@sensate.se wrote: Hi ! is it possible to add my freshly setup maven2 repo as an official scandinavian mirror/Repo ?

Re: [VOTE] Release Maven Findbugs plugin version 2.2

2009-11-11 Thread Brian Fox
I think you have the wrong dev list On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 7:53 PM, Garvin LeClaire garvin.lecla...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, We solved 5 issues: http://jira.codehaus.org/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=11701version=15548 There are still a couple of issues left in JIRA:

Re: m2eclipse was: Proposal after-the-fact: Experimental multithreading support

2009-11-10 Thread Brian Fox
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 3:21 PM, Dan Fabulich d...@fabulich.com wrote: Jason van Zyl wrote: The trunk is now critical for M2Eclipse and anyone else who is embedding and new features just aren't going in without adequate ITs. m2eclipse depends on the Maven 3.0-SNAPSHOT trunk? Kinda Does

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Maven 3.0-alpha-3

2009-11-09 Thread Brian Fox
I haven't tested alpha-3 yet, but I don't want to see anything derail that, since it's been a long time coming. I think it would be better for issues found after the last 11 months of changes to be separate from anything introduced by a multi-threaded build. Agreed. Unless you can attach the

Re: maven dependency version inprovment

2009-11-09 Thread Brian Fox
It's not done yet. On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 5:38 AM, Gilles Scokart gscok...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/11/6 Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com I suspect that the plug-ability being introduced in 3.0 will mean that we are able to provide a hook for m3 to discover how to handle newer

Re: [VOTE] Apache (parent POM) version 7

2009-11-08 Thread Brian Fox
-1 lets get the new descriptor benjamin staged included On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 4:52 PM, Brian Fox bri...@infinity.nu wrote: +1 On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 1:00 PM, Olivier Lamy ol...@apache.org wrote: +1 -- Olivier 2009/11/5 John Casey jdca...@commonjava.org: Hi, I've included the source

Re: [VOTE] Apache (parent POM) version 7

2009-11-05 Thread Brian Fox
+1 On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 1:00 PM, Olivier Lamy ol...@apache.org wrote: +1 -- Olivier 2009/11/5 John Casey jdca...@commonjava.org: Hi, I've included the source-release assembly configuration in the Apache parent POM since it's working pretty well here in Maven. This will allow other

Re: Dropping staged repository maven-archetype:2.0-alpha-5

2009-11-03 Thread Brian Fox
Yes, we now have the source bundle issue resolved, just upgrade to the latest maven parents...and we are still using Nexus where you staged it last time ;-) 2009/11/3 Raphaël Piéroni raphaelpier...@gmail.com: Hello Benjamin, I am really sorry for not having concluded the release process (yet).

Re: Enable source-release assembly on Apache parent POM?

2009-11-03 Thread Brian Fox
+1, a few people here at the hackathon have asked it to be promoted so they can benefit on other ASF projects. On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 4:05 PM, John Casey jdca...@commonjava.org wrote: Hi, Seems like the source-release assembly is working pretty well, particularly now that Benjamin refined it.

Re: [DISCUSS] Handling of repositories in POMs of dependencies

2009-10-30 Thread Brian Fox
of the chain. We should think about collision detection, but this should be detectable at least. There are most probably also things to consider for repository managers. I'm not sure if it is worth the effort though. LieGrue, strub - Ursprüngliche Mail Von: Brian Fox bri

Re: [DISCUSS] Handling of repositories in POMs of dependencies

2009-10-30 Thread Brian Fox
I think 2) and 3) require a lot of discussion. So really I think it boils down to are we going to really make 1) the way it works? Otherwise I think we are also obliged to look at the models in P2 and OBR because it probably doesn't make sense to re-invent another mediation and reconciliation

Re: Maven 3: Deprecating old-style references?

2009-10-30 Thread Brian Fox
Yeah deprecated in 3.x. However we'll always have to support them when resolving things from the repo since that's cast in stone for projects already released. We should not support them for projects being built with 3.x though. On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 1:34 PM, Paul Benedict pbened...@apache.org

Re: [VOTE] Release Maven Parent POM 14, Maven Plugins Parent POM 15 and Maven Shared Components Parent POM 13

2009-10-29 Thread Brian Fox
+1 On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 11:25 AM, Benjamin Bentmann benjamin.bentm...@udo.edu wrote: Hi, these releases are primarily meant to incorporate the fixed source release assembly descriptor into our projects, thereby addressing the issue outlined in

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Source Release Assembly Descriptor 1.0.1

2009-10-29 Thread Brian Fox
+1 On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 11:18 AM, Benjamin Bentmann benjamin.bentm...@udo.edu wrote: Hi, This is a maintenance release for the assembly descriptor that we use to create ASF-compliant source distros. This release fixes a bug in version 1.0 that erroneously includes paths like

Re: [DISCUSS] Handling of repositories in POMs of dependencies

2009-10-29 Thread Brian Fox
It's amazing how google's thread compression of a discussion can cause me to overlook a huge thread so near and dear to my heart. To start, Benjamin has hit the nail on the head of a discussion point Jason and I have had going for quite some time. In fact, we even wrote up a proposal for it

Maven Meetup at ApacheCon US

2009-10-23 Thread Brian Fox
and agenda ideas. I have some content to talk about Maven 3.x changes if desired, but the community can drive the final agenda. [1]https://docs.sonatype.org/display/COMM/Maven+Meetup+at+US+Apache+Con+09 Thanks, Brian Fox Apache Maven PMC Chair

Re: Download path for just deployed snapshot

2009-10-22 Thread Brian Fox
The only way to do this reliably would be to go get the metadata from the repository and use that...it's inside the deploy plugin that this transformation occurs and it happens based on the metadata that it just retrieved. Alternatively you could do this with a repo manager. Nexus provides rss

preparing for the next 3.x alpha release

2009-10-22 Thread Brian Fox
Just summing up a conversation I had with Jason and Benjamin: After Benjamin finishes up the current issue MNG-4221 (http://jira.codehaus.org/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=truepid=10500fixfor=14719resolution=-1sorter/field=issuekeysorter/order=DESC) then we think it's time to prepare the next

Re: preparing for the next 3.x alpha release

2009-10-22 Thread Brian Fox
this will need a release of some stuff. [1]. This need some jobs to be really complete (sorry not enough spare atm) -- Olivier [1] http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MAVEN/Maven+3.x+and+site+plugin 2009/10/22 Brian Fox bri...@infinity.nu: Just summing up a conversation I had with Jason

Re: How to retrieve the current maven version from a plugin?

2009-10-21 Thread Brian Fox
What was wrong with the RuntimeInformation that was present in M2? There should be one canonical interface to get the version of Maven that everyone uses. The implementation behind that may implement some of these suggestions, but I wouldn't want to see this in every plugin that cares. On Wed,

Re: How to retrieve the current maven version from a plugin?

2009-10-21 Thread Brian Fox
On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 7:08 PM, Benjamin Bentmann benjamin.bentm...@udo.edu wrote: Brian Fox wrote: What was wrong with the RuntimeInformation that was present in M2? It was put in maven-compat and deprecated in M3 so we were looking for alternatives. Yeah, but why? Benjamin

Re: How to retrieve the current maven version from a plugin?

2009-10-21 Thread Brian Fox
On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 7:15 PM, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/10/22 Brian Fox bri...@infinity.nu On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 7:08 PM, Benjamin Bentmann benjamin.bentm...@udo.edu wrote: Brian Fox wrote: What was wrong with the RuntimeInformation

Re: svn commit: r824607 - in /maven/maven-3/trunk: apache-maven/src/main/assembly/ maven-core/src/main/java/org/apache/maven/project/ maven-embedder/src/main/java/org/apache/maven/cli/ maven-model-b

2009-10-13 Thread Brian Fox
On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 3:05 AM, Jason van Zyl ja...@sonatype.com wrote: Nope, I had that in my copy from a new days ago and then I asked the question. I'll make a profile to publish all formats. Huh? At least 4 more lines in the pom to save 2 in the assembly? I say drop the bz2 and leave

Re: Maven 3.0: just shipping a zip

2009-10-12 Thread Brian Fox
On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 12:00 PM, Daniel Kulp dk...@apache.org wrote: I personally think that not having a tar.gz will be very unnatural for unix folks and will cause a barrage of where's the unix build?  emails to users@ and such. To me, there is no downside of having it.  It takes an extra

Re: Release Problem: Commit failure to SVN

2009-10-12 Thread Brian Fox
This should be posted to the user list, along with an example of your pom and perhaps some mvn -x output to go with it. On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 10:50 AM, Franco Ehrat franco.eh...@giniality.ch wrote: Hi developers, I send you this mail because I'm totally irritated. I tried a few times  to

Re: Release guide outdated

2009-10-11 Thread Brian Fox
I'll get them updated, the steps are substantially the same but screens slightly different. On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 7:52 PM, Arnaud HERITIER arnaud.herit...@exoplatform.com wrote: Hi,  I'm doing a release and noticed that many screenshots of Nexus are outdated in the current version we are

Re: a cleaned up central repository?

2009-10-06 Thread Brian Fox
On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 9:30 AM, Albert Kurucz albert.kur...@gmail.com wrote: Tamas, I cannot predict when, but once it will be done in a machine way or a mathematical/logical proof will be discovered that it is impossible. Agreed, it will not be easy. This is why in suggestion 1) I said lets

Re: a cleaned up central repository?

2009-10-05 Thread Brian Fox
, Albert On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 6:51 PM, Brian Fox bri...@infinity.nu wrote: Albert, Clearly you seem to have plenty of enthusiasm for helping to provide better metadata, and I don't want to discourage that. Providing and hosting a repository containing 90 thousand files that serves greater

Re: a cleaned up central repository?

2009-10-05 Thread Brian Fox
On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 3:16 PM, Albert Kurucz albert.kur...@gmail.com wrote: Brian, Ok then, I assert they are all fine. Now you can provide a list and refute me ;-). In this case (if they were all fine) here is your list: http://repo2.maven.org/maven2/.index/ (But unfortunately they are

Re: a cleaned up central repository?

2009-10-05 Thread Brian Fox
On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 4:36 PM, Albert Kurucz albert.kur...@gmail.com wrote: Brian, If you start maintaining a list of violators I have zero motivation to contribute to your list, because this kind of list is useless for me. If you start maintaining a list of compliant artifacts (what many

Re: [maven-scm] RFC fetch/push URL format

2009-10-03 Thread Brian Fox
I think it would be more legible if the fetch and push urls were separated with something not part of the url normally, ie a | instead of : would stand out visually. Otherwise, this seems like the only workable solution in the current pom model. On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 2:52 AM, Mark Struberg

Re: a cleaned up central repository?

2009-10-02 Thread Brian Fox
On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 5:57 AM, Paul Gier pg...@redhat.com wrote: Why would everyone need to use both repos?  If the legacy repository is done correctly, the vast majority of users would never need to hit it, or even know about it at all. Note that this idea is different than creating a new

Re: a cleaned up central repository?

2009-10-01 Thread Brian Fox
personally think attempting to fork an entire repository is not going to help the users as much as even items #1,2,3 above. Brian Fox Apache Maven PMC Chair-Elect On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 12:13 PM, Albert Kurucz albert.kur...@gmail.com wrote: I would like to see some votes: 1. Big Rotten Onion 2

Re: a cleaned up central repository? (was: Maven Central Repository - Cleanup Efforts)

2009-10-01 Thread Brian Fox
On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 2:24 PM, Albert Kurucz albert.kur...@gmail.com wrote: Wayne, Who paid Linus to create version 1.0 of the Linux Kernel? If somebody can create a Maven repo crawler as a hobby project, then somebody will. The Nexus Indexer already runs on Central, directly on the machine.

Re: a cleaned up central repository?

2009-10-01 Thread Brian Fox
Brian, do you want expand on this for the rest of us? What are the rules, how will it work, and how can we use it? The details belong in another thread, but we'll be able to implement these rules for projects using repository.apache.org and oss.sonatype.org. This isn't really new information,

Re: Stephen's credentials Re: [VOTE] maven-resources-plugin 2.4.1

2009-10-01 Thread Brian Fox
Yes it counts. Hopefully you'll see your account tomorrow. Please confirm or deny when it does or doesn't show up ;-) On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 1:51 AM, Arnaud HERITIER aherit...@gmail.com wrote: I think your vote count but for infra I don't know what to do. On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 9:33 AM,

Re: [VOTE] maven-resources-plugin 2.4.1

2009-09-30 Thread Brian Fox
+1 On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 1:54 PM, Paul Benedict pbened...@apache.org wrote: +1 here - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org

Re: Repository Plugin: Should SCM be Required??

2009-09-29 Thread Brian Fox
I think having it even if over time it rots, is better than having nothing to start with. Bottom line is that we will want this in central and will look to automate enforcement, so the bundle plugin should line up with that process to simplify life for everyone. On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 2:14 PM,

Re: Repository Plugin: Should SCM be Required??

2009-09-29 Thread Brian Fox
If we don't require it then people simply won't populate it even when it could be done. There will always be a manual way to get artifacts through a process into central if they don't meet the requirements that would have to be judged on a case by case basis. I think that a significant majority

Re: Repository Plugin: Should SCM be Required??

2009-09-29 Thread Brian Fox
unmanageable, you can bet we'll act to solve it. On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 3:42 PM, Brian Fox bri...@infinity.nu wrote: If we don't require it then people simply won't populate it even when it could be done.  There will always be a manual way to get artifacts through a process into central if they don't

Re: Question on transitive dependency resolution

2009-09-28 Thread Brian Fox
The managing of Child A doesn't necessarily mean that Child A's dependencies are weighed higher than other direct dependencies. Also, given the same depth in the tree, the first version processed for a given group:artifact wins...ie the order in the pom can have subtle impacts. On Mon, Sep 28,

Re: [VOTE] Release Maven Jarsigner Plugin 1.2

2009-09-26 Thread Brian Fox
+1 On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 8:54 AM, Benjamin Bentmann benjamin.bentm...@udo.edu wrote: Hi, We solved 2 issues: http://jira.codehaus.org/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?version=15698styleName=HtmlprojectId=11990 There are still a couple of issues left in JIRA:

Apache Snapshot repository is offline

2009-09-24 Thread Brian Fox
The server hosting the zone for repository.apache.org is having some maintenance issues at the moment so the repository is offline. You can follow the apache infra twitter for updates on the status: http://twitter.com/infrabot -

Re: MNG-3876: moving maven-artifact to archive

2009-09-24 Thread Brian Fox
It can't hurt. On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 6:03 PM, Brett Porter br...@apache.org wrote: On 24/09/2009, at 7:22 AM, Hervé BOUTEMY wrote: I also think we should move all the MARTIFACT JIRAs back into MNG. I don't know how to do the move to MNG Artufact and Repositories component, then disable

Re: a cleaned up central repository? (was: Maven Central Repository - Cleanup Efforts)

2009-09-24 Thread Brian Fox
Central regarding size or the number of artifacts, but some OSS developers might prefer to use from and supply to this one instead of the big and ugly. On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 6:44 PM, Brian Fox bri...@infinity.nu wrote: On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:16 PM, Albert Kurucz albert.kur...@gmail.com wrote

Re: [DISCUSS] MNG-4148 - Apply profiles from settings.xml to POMs built from the repository

2009-09-21 Thread Brian Fox
Making resolution of things from a repository dependent on an environment is definitely dangerous. The only way I would consider it valid is if there's some default provided in the pom itself, but that's going to be difficult to enforce reliably I think. On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 6:09 AM, Jason van

Re: Multi-Platform snapshots

2009-09-17 Thread Brian Fox
to find the first jar I uploaded. Jira issue: MDEPLOY-48 Brian Fox wrote: I was recently working with a customer to move them off of using non-unique snapshots for various reasons. In the process we discovered a problem with snapshots, classifiers and multi-platform builds. In this scenario

Re: Help regarding Overriding the property value in pom.xml

2009-09-08 Thread Brian Fox
This list is for development of maven only. AND i already answered your question on the user list the last time you asked. On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 7:54 AM, Praveenkumar Kasupraveenkum...@hcl.in wrote: Hi All, I am having a property named test.version in pom.xml  properties    

Re: [vote] Invite Stephen Connolly to join Maven committers

2009-09-08 Thread Brian Fox
+1 On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 7:24 PM, Arnaud HERITIERarnaud.herit...@exoplatform.com wrote: Hi all,  I'd like to propose giving commit access to Stephen Connolly.  He is already a committer @ Mojo for many monthes and did a great work on several plugins.  He is the author of the very useful

Re: Multi-Platform snapshots

2009-09-06 Thread Brian Fox
I agree, but I got the feeling Brian would like the same version on these parallel builds which will need extra to make sure they are in sync. I'm just exploring the concepts and options. I think most cases could be solved by being able to resolve the latest snapshot of a particular

Re: Multi-Platform snapshots

2009-09-04 Thread Brian Fox
. And I also like to look in my repo or my package and know exactly which snapshot i have in case there's a discrepancy. -Stephen 2009/9/4 Brian Fox bri...@infinity.nu I was recently working with a customer to move them off of using non-unique snapshots for various reasons. In the process we

Re: Help regarding Overriding the property value in child pom.xml

2009-09-04 Thread Brian Fox
These questions belong on the user list. If you asked there, I'll answer it ;-) On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 4:26 PM, Arul Anand S Parulanan...@gmail.com wrote: hi all, I am having a property named test.version in parent pom.xml  properties    test.version8/test.version  /properties and I have

dropping non-unique snapshots in Maven 3

2009-09-04 Thread Brian Fox
I saw this on Benjamin's compat page yesterday and thought I'd throw it up for discussion: Non-unique Snapshot Deployments The setting uniqueVersionfalse/uniqueVersion for a distribution repository has no effect in version 3.x, snapshot artifacts will always be deployed using a timestamped

Multi-Platform snapshots

2009-09-04 Thread Brian Fox
I was recently working with a customer to move them off of using non-unique snapshots for various reasons. In the process we discovered a problem with snapshots, classifiers and multi-platform builds. In this scenario, we have a project that is built on multiple platforms, say windows, solaris

Re: dropping non-unique snapshots in Maven 3

2009-09-04 Thread Brian Fox
On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 4:06 PM, Jason van Zyljvan...@sonatype.com wrote: I think it can be in the same vein as the no versions for plugins. Not a very good idea and potentially harmful. We put it in, deprecate it over 3.0 and it becomes taboo in 3.1. If it's a bad practice in the majority of

Re: Re : non-xml poms in 3.x

2009-09-04 Thread Brian Fox
Just my 2 cents as a Maven evangelist in a big private company. Even if Maven is around for years now, basic endusers just start to get accustomed to pom.xml and Maven philosophy (really! people are far slowest to change than in OpenSource project team). Please, please don't mess

Re: Multi-Platform snapshots

2009-09-04 Thread Brian Fox
On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 4:36 PM, Jason van Zyljvan...@sonatype.com wrote: Why not just incorporate the full coordinate in the metadata. This is also a problem for finding attached artifacts like javadocs and sources. There is no record of them in the metadata. If we had a complete catalog of the

Re: MRRESOURCES-41 and project-resolution API

2009-08-31 Thread Brian Fox
Ok here. On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 7:40 AM, Benjamin Bentmannbenjamin.bentm...@udo.edu wrote: John Casey wrote: I have a working implementation [...] but it currently depends on Java 1.5. [...] I'd really prefer to leave this requirement on 1.5 in place, to help us gradually pull ourselves out

Re: Hibernate feedback about Maven usage.

2009-08-25 Thread Brian Fox
I've never seen make or ant scripts that effectively crawled up a disk looking for other things to build. I don't see how maven is different. On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 4:27 PM, Jochen Wiedmannjochen.wiedm...@gmail.com wrote: Arnaud HERITIER-3 wrote: What do you think about this post and

Re: [ANN] Apache Source-Release Assembly Descriptor 1.0 Released

2009-08-23 Thread Brian Fox
We still have some fixes to make before we promote it apache wide. Once it's working for all our stuff we can upgrade the apache pom. On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 7:08 PM, Arnaud HERITIERaherit...@gmail.com wrote: perhaps you could forward this to all PMCs ? Cheers, Arnaud # Arnaud Héritier #

Re: [DISCUSS] Add new mojo annotation @requiresDependencyCollection

2009-08-21 Thread Brian Fox
+1 On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 4:43 PM, Benjamin Bentmannbenjamin.bentm...@udo.edu wrote: Hi, for Maven 3.x, I would like to discuss the introduction of a new mojo annotation �...@requiresdependencycollection required-scope As the name probably suggests, the intended effect is to resemble an

Re: [VOTE] maven-parent-13, apache-resources-3, apache-source-release-assembly-descriptor-1.0

2009-08-19 Thread Brian Fox
+1. This works as I had envisioned but I did uncover one small issue: the DEPENDENCIES file for a multi-module project is not complete, and in the case of the enforcer simply empty because that pom is serving only aggregation purposes. I talked to John and he's preparing a remote-resources

Re: [VOTE] maven-parent-13, apache-resources-3, apache-source-release-assembly-descriptor-1.0

2009-08-18 Thread Brian Fox
They fall under different profiles. Hopefully tonight i can give this a test whirl on something like the enforcer. On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 11:51 AM, John Caseyjdca...@commonjava.org wrote: Thanks Benjamin. I made a dumb assumption that the only difference would be the number. Clearly that's

Re: deploy on apache.snapshots ?

2009-08-14 Thread Brian Fox
You only have permissions to deploy artifacts based on the groupId for configured projects. IOW you as a Maven committer can deploy /org/apache/maven/.* but commons-monitoring is not configured in repository.apache.org so you have no permissions for those artifacts. You can get it migrated here:

Re: [DISCUSS] Aggregator Plugins

2009-08-14 Thread Brian Fox
Such a project would be built after its child modules. Basically, the occurrence of parent in a POM should no longer establish any kind of dependency between the parent project and the inheriting project, only aggregation would do so. So in essence we are relying on the resolution of this

Re: Replacing old Wagons in Maven 3.0 with the Jetty-client based Wagon

2009-08-13 Thread Brian Fox
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 5:58 PM, Jason van Zyljvan...@sonatype.com wrote: John, What's the range of features across the two http Wagon's right now? Currently the lightweight impl handles NTLMv2 and does a better job caching the data when the repository asks for authentication (this one uses

Re: [DISCUSS] Aggregator Plugins

2009-08-13 Thread Brian Fox
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 4:50 PM, Stephen Connollystephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/8/13 Wendy Smoak wsm...@gmail.com: It would also be good to post the original document on the mailing list, so it will be in the archives as a basis for the discussion. Confluence may not be there

Re: svn commit: r803723 - /maven/pom/trunk/maven/pom.xml

2009-08-13 Thread Brian Fox
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 5:57 PM, jdca...@apache.org wrote: Author: jdcasey Date: Wed Aug 12 21:57:19 2009 New Revision: 803723 URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=803723view=rev Log: Adding source-release assembly configuration. Modified:    maven/pom/trunk/maven/pom.xml Modified:

Re: maven2 question from an end user

2009-08-12 Thread Brian Fox
Tell him to email repo-maintain...@maven.apache.org. The ibiblio copy seems to match what is in the central repository so this isn't an ibiblio issue. On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 9:45 AM, Don Sizemored...@ibiblio.org wrote:  Hello,  We received the following question in our help queue today:

Re: maven2 question from an end user

2009-08-12 Thread Brian Fox
Here's what I got from the Selenium team: The user is simply confused: http://nexus.openqa.org/content/repositories/releases/org/seleniumhq/selenium/server/selenium-server/1.0.1/ What he wants is the standalone jar which contains all the dependencies rolled up in it:

Re: Source-release excludes patterns (was: Re: svn commit: r802166)

2009-08-11 Thread Brian Fox
Fine with me. On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 11:09 AM, John Caseyjdca...@commonjava.org wrote: Re-posting to get this out of the original message thread, so it doesn't hide on some email clients: --- This is something I wanted to bring up on the dev list, actually. I simply went through all of

Re: Maven Release Plugin Question

2009-08-11 Thread Brian Fox
You may want to take a look at the enforcer plugin and the rules, many of the release criteria checks are already implemented as enforcer rules. If you build something that could consume the enforcer rule api, that would be pretty handy at least for the validation parts of the release process. On

Re: [VOTE] Maven Repository Plugin 2.2

2009-08-10 Thread Brian Fox
Before we push this, I'd like to add a requirement to include the scm url and project url in the pom that is bundled. This information is currently required in Jira, but it should be in the pom. On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 10:10 AM, John Caseyjdca...@commonjava.org wrote: Oops, forgot to record my

Re: svn commit: r802166 - /maven/resources/trunk/apache-source-release-assembly-descriptor/src/main/resources/assemblies/source-release.xml

2009-08-10 Thread Brian Fox
The cobertura one yes because it would be produced potentially by the tests. The others probably have less harm. On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 4:41 PM, Brett Porterbr...@apache.org wrote: On 07/08/2009, at 4:11 PM, jdca...@apache.org wrote: +        !-- misc --        

Re: [PLEASE TEST] Maven 2.2.1-RC2

2009-08-05 Thread Brian Fox
I tested it briefly by deploying some enforcer snapshots. Nothing unusual detected, but I definitely didn't look at the detailed issues we had earlier. On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 7:49 PM, John Caseyjdca...@commonjava.org wrote: Hi again, After Brett sorted out some issues that got lost in the

Re: [DISCUSS] Extend Mojo API to allow for resolution of multiple dependency scopes

2009-08-03 Thread Brian Fox
I think the disconnect here is that the resolution scope != specified scope That is to say if you ask for the runtime scope in a plugin, you get more than things declared runtime. We all know this intuitively but it is confusing at times. Perhaps what is needed is the addition of a few more

Re: [DISCUSS] Extend Mojo API to allow for resolution of multiple dependency scopes

2009-08-02 Thread Brian Fox
In the dependency and enforcer plugins where I potentially need everything, I just ask for test to be resolved and then i pick the elements i need. On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 2:28 PM, Benjamin Bentmannbenjamin.bentm...@udo.edu wrote: Brian Fox wrote: I think those bugs may be due to the plugin

Re: svn commit: r799755 - in /maven/scm/trunk: pom.xml src/main/ src/main/assembly/ src/main/assembly/source-release.xml

2009-07-31 Thread Brian Fox
2009/7/31 Jason van Zyl jvan...@sonatype.com: Ok, we need to figure out how to do this generally. I really don't want to see this in every POM we have. Brian, is there no way to share this? Yes there is. The problem was getting the license and notice files included. On the infra list it seems

Re: [DISCUSS] Extend Mojo API to allow for resolution of multiple dependency scopes

2009-07-31 Thread Brian Fox
I think those bugs may be due to the plugin using the runtime scope not the runtime classpath? The runtime classpath should include the compile scope artifacts. 2009/7/31 Benjamin Bentmann benjamin.bentm...@udo.edu: Hi, I would like to propose an extension of the mojo annotation

Re: [Proposal] EasyVersionMaintenance

2009-07-30 Thread Brian Fox
/dependency Which I think we've seen suggested before. Anything more than that is probably not going to be as feasible and prone to confusion. On 29/07/2009, at 7:27 PM, Brian Fox wrote: First question, wouldn't ${project.version} solve the use case of updating same versioned dependencies

Re: [Proposal] EasyVersionMaintenance

2009-07-30 Thread Brian Fox
dependency  groupId${project.groupId}/groupId  artifactIdother-artifactId/artifactId  version${project.version}/version /dependency would become: dependency  artifactIdother-artifactId/artifactId /dependency Besides saving a few keystrokes I don't see how that helps much? It's

Re: [VOTE] Commit access for Mark Struberg

2009-07-30 Thread Brian Fox
+1 2009/7/30 Brett Porter br...@apache.org: Hi, Mark has been contributing regularly to Maven SCM for quite some time (in particular the git support recently, and I think has been wanting to help with improving the API and release mechanism for git), as well as being more broadly active.

Re: [Proposal] EasyVersionMaintenance

2009-07-30 Thread Brian Fox
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 9:51 AM, Ralph Goersralph.go...@dslextreme.com wrote: On Jul 30, 2009, at 5:03 AM, Brian Fox wrote: We also have to be careful of the problems introduced in 2.1.0 because of transforming the pom...gpg can't sign etc. Are those itemized anywhere? Eventually

Re: Trade-Off with pluginManagement in Super-Pom

2009-07-29 Thread Brian Fox
Therefore I think that the pluginManagement in Super-Pom caused some trouble and confusion that you might not be aware of. It should use the version even if you invoke directly from the command line, if not, that's a separate bug.

Re: [Proposal] EasyVersionMaintenance

2009-07-29 Thread Brian Fox
First question, wouldn't ${project.version} solve the use case of updating same versioned dependencies? Also: A version that was omitted in a dependency section can only be resolved if the referenced modules are resolved. So if it is NOT part of the sub-tree where the build was invoked we have a

Re: [VOTE] Commit access for Igor Fedorenko

2009-07-28 Thread Brian Fox
+1 On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 6:52 PM, Jason van Zyljvan...@sonatype.com wrote: Hi, Igor has been submitting patches for over a year now and in the last 12 weeks he's been submitting some very substantive changes to 3.x. Igor has done things like create a performance framework for Maven 3.x to

Re: [VOTE] Release Maven Remote Resources Plugin version 1.0.1

2009-07-26 Thread Brian Fox
I used the same parent as the jarsigner plugin which does appear to have the source archive. I just assumed the -source now contained the self-building requirement. Using the same parent and not getting the same output I'll look into tomorrow. That's on me, I haven't finished it yet. My boss

Re: [VOTE] Release Maven Remote Resources Plugin version 1.0.1

2009-07-25 Thread Brian Fox
Yep, it needs to be closed. On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 7:53 AM, Benjamin Bentmannbenjamin.bentm...@udo.edu wrote: Jason van Zyl wrote: It's there if you go to the UI, something appears to be wrong with the redirects. The repo isn't closed, that could explain why it doesn't show up in public

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