Re: Deciding on a protocol, need help

2007-08-28 Thread Stanczak Group
I've been doing a lot of research on this, and you're saying if for example I created an application in Java, probably delivered with Webstart, you would use SOAP and not MINA? Is MINA more for creating servers? Are there any examples of Mina being used of client applications over a WAN? For

Re: Deciding on a protocol, need help

2007-08-28 Thread Pat Farrell
Stanczak Group wrote: I need something I can use for everything from streaming audio/video/object, to RMI like requests. Well, TCP/IP can deliver anything, but as Mike said, it's about not reinventing the wheel. In the past two decades, I've worked on many systems that needed RMI or Corba

Re: Deciding on a protocol, need help

2007-08-19 Thread Stanczak Group
Well, I've been reading more on this Restlet. I'm starting to like the idea. Maarten Bosteels wrote: Pat, Have you done REST on top of MINA ? I am thinking about implementing a REST service that would be consumed by a client application written in Flex. Are there any java

Deciding on a protocol, need help

2007-08-18 Thread Stanczak Group
I'm at a impasse with protocols. I don't know which to use. Does anyone have a suggestion? I like something simple like JMS uses. I tried serialization, but feel I'll run into limitations. I looked at things like JSON, and XStream. -- Justin Stanczak Stanczak Group 812-735-3600 All that is

Re: Deciding on a protocol, need help

2007-08-18 Thread Rodrigo Madera
Hello Justin, Deciding on a protocol is something that involves a lot of variables. Describe what your project's needs are and we may be able to help you better. Regards, Rodrigo On 8/18/07, Stanczak Group [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm at a impasse with protocols. I don't know which to use.

Re: Deciding on a protocol, need help

2007-08-18 Thread Stanczak Group
I'm creating a client/server learning management system. It will involve everything from passing objects to multimedia audio/video. I need some kind of control structure to pass requests to different services on the handler. I was just creating a main handler and having it call an array of

Re: Deciding on a protocol, need help

2007-08-18 Thread Rodrigo Madera
Justin, By what you said, you definitely described a HTTP based application. Everything you need can be used using simple JSP stuff. Of course you could do it in many other ways, but I would professionally advise you to seriously consider HTTP. Hope I helped a bit, Rodrigo On 8/19/07,

Re: Deciding on a protocol, need help

2007-08-18 Thread Stanczak Group
So you're saying not to use Mina? Us Tomcat and JSP? Or Http over Mina? I don't want a browser based client. I want a rich Java client. Rodrigo Madera wrote: Justin, By what you said, you definitely described a HTTP based application. Everything you need can be used using simple JSP stuff.

Re: Deciding on a protocol, need help

2007-08-18 Thread Stanczak Group
I would reference something like Adobe Breeze as an example of what I'd like to create. Except using Java and Webstart. Rodrigo Madera wrote: Justin, By what you said, you definitely described a HTTP based application. Everything you need can be used using simple JSP stuff. Of course you

Re: Deciding on a protocol, need help

2007-08-18 Thread Stanczak Group
I was also looking at Restlet, now that you say HTTP. Rodrigo Madera wrote: Justin, By what you said, you definitely described a HTTP based application. Everything you need can be used using simple JSP stuff. Of course you could do it in many other ways, but I would professionally advise you

Re: Deciding on a protocol, need help

2007-08-18 Thread Stanczak Group
I was also looking at Restlet, now that you say HTTP. I looked at JBoss Remoting as well. Rodrigo Madera wrote: Justin, By what you said, you definitely described a HTTP based application. Everything you need can be used using simple JSP stuff. Of course you could do it in many other ways,

Re: Deciding on a protocol, need help

2007-08-18 Thread Rodrigo Madera
I'll give you my opinion based on your description. Or course, this is only one of the various ways you can implement your project. It would be awesome that other members of the list provide their own implementations so we can compare. I'm creating a client/server learning management system. It

Re: Deciding on a protocol, need help

2007-08-18 Thread Pat Farrell
Rodrigo Madera wrote: By what you said, you definitely described a HTTP based application. Everything you need can be used using simple JSP stuff. What Rodrigo said. If what you want to do can be directly done using HTTP, I believe you are much better off using it than using any other

Re: Deciding on a protocol, need help

2007-08-18 Thread Stanczak Group
Ya, I've written web applications for many years, using many different frameworks. I looked at the XFire approach, but I find it a very heavy stack. However I've never used it so I can't say for sure. Mina just seemed like a very fast and flexible framework, being a network framework for

Re: Deciding on a protocol, need help

2007-08-18 Thread Stanczak Group
So would something like Restlet be better for this then Mina? Pat Farrell wrote: Rodrigo Madera wrote: By what you said, you definitely described a HTTP based application. Everything you need can be used using simple JSP stuff. What Rodrigo said. If what you want to do can be directly done

Re: Deciding on a protocol, need help

2007-08-18 Thread Pat Farrell
Stanczak Group wrote: So would something like Restlet be better for this then Mina? I don't want to say anything bad about Mina as its very nice. Very clean, and approachable. I have loved REST for a long time. It solves a lot of real problems. One of my favorite things about REST is that

Re: Deciding on a protocol, need help

2007-08-18 Thread Stanczak Group
Ya. I downloaded and tried it out some. Looks pretty good. But it does bring up a good question. Where does Mina fit when doing a project. Is there things it's better for over others? Is it something that's used to make servers or something that's used for client server. Is it LAN or WAN?

Re: Deciding on a protocol, need help

2007-08-18 Thread Pat Farrell
Stanczak Group wrote: Where does Mina fit when doing a project. Is there things it's better for over others? Sure, look at the mina.apache.org # Unified API for various transport types: * TCP/IP UDP/IP via Java NIO * Serial communication (RS232) via RXTX * In-VM pipe