Re: [Trinidad] Skinning and rounded corners

2008-04-25 Thread Matt Cooper
Hey Andrew, How about just using the CSS3 rounded corner styles already available in Firefox and Safari? Of course we'd fall back into square corners in IE. -Matt On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 6:13 PM, Andrew Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Looking at the many of the renderers for Trinidad

Re: [Trinidad] Skinning and rounded corners

2008-04-25 Thread Andrew Robinson
So use @agent with the new version support in the skin? FF3, IE8 - rounded - FF2, IE7 squared (I can't speak to Opera and Safari since I have never used them)? Would take a long time for people to used these browsers, but it would dramatically increase performance (much less HTML bulk). I am not

Re: [Trinidad] Skinning and rounded corners

2008-04-25 Thread Scott O'Bryan
I like Matt's idea personally. Scott Andrew Robinson wrote: So use @agent with the new version support in the skin? FF3, IE8 - rounded - FF2, IE7 squared (I can't speak to Opera and Safari since I have never used them)? Would take a long time for people to used these browsers, but it would

Re: [Trinidad] Skinning and rounded corners

2008-04-25 Thread Andrew Robinson
The problem is that approx 50% of firefox users use 1.5 and the other 50% use 2, about 0% use FF3. No one is on IE 3 yet. (not counting developers) -Andrew On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 11:04 AM, Scott O'Bryan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I like Matt's idea personally. Scott Andrew Robinson

Re: [Trinidad] Skinning and rounded corners

2008-04-25 Thread Andrew Robinson
IE 8 not 3. Was still thinking FF3. On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 11:26 AM, Andrew Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The problem is that approx 50% of firefox users use 1.5 and the other 50% use 2, about 0% use FF3. No one is on IE 3 yet. (not counting developers) -Andrew On Fri, Apr 25,

Re: [Trinidad] Skinning and rounded corners

2008-04-25 Thread Scott O'Bryan
So.. 3 isn't even released yet. Soon it will be 50% on 2 and 50% on 3.. I'm of the opinion that the people who really care about eye candy will have a more up to date browser. And besides, this is a technical demo, there are developers and PM's who will be looking at it. Scott Andrew

Re: [Trinidad] Skinning and rounded corners

2008-04-25 Thread Andrew Robinson
This has nothing to do with the demo. I am asking about the new myfaces skin which users will be able to create their applications using it. -Andrew On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 11:35 AM, Scott O'Bryan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So.. 3 isn't even released yet. Soon it will be 50% on 2 and 50% on 3..

Re: [Trinidad] Skinning and rounded corners

2008-04-25 Thread Andrew Robinson
Actually FF3 doesn't support it Go to this in FF3: http://www.w3.org/Style/Examples/007/roundshadow2.html No borders :( -Andrew On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 11:31 AM, Andrew Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IE 8 not 3. Was still thinking FF3. On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 11:26 AM, Andrew Robinson

Re: [Trinidad] Skinning and rounded corners

2008-04-25 Thread Glauco P. Gomes
These new browsers (with CSS3) support shadows? Glauco P. Gomes Andrew Robinson escreveu: This has nothing to do with the demo. I am asking about the new myfaces skin which users will be able to create their applications using it. -Andrew On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 11:35 AM, Scott O'Bryan

Re: [Trinidad] Skinning and rounded corners

2008-04-25 Thread Andrew Robinson
Well, they support multiple background images for an HTML element, so that you can do rounded corners manually with shadows but not have to add extra HTML elements to make it possible. -Andrew On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 1:14 PM, Glauco P. Gomes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: These new browsers (with

Re: [Trinidad] Skinning and rounded corners

2008-04-25 Thread Matt Cooper
I was referring to -foo-border-radius, etc. as seen here: http://www.css3.info/preview/rounded-border/ That website is using only the proposed CSS3 syntax. As far as shadows, I believe only Safari currently supports it: http://www.css3.info/preview/box-shadow/ Regards, Matt On Fri, Apr 25,

Re: [Trinidad] Skinning and rounded corners

2008-04-25 Thread Andrew Robinson
While that produces a plain rounded border, it would not allow us to use graphic borders with gradients and such. In this case to mirror what Adonis has done for the MyFaces site. Not to mention it looks ugly on Linux FF2 at least (really choppy line). On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 4:05 PM, Matt Cooper

Re: [Trinidad] Skinning and rounded corners

2008-04-25 Thread Glauco P. Gomes
+1 to skining selectors. It's more flexible, and if the user/developer/designer prefer CSS3, he/she can use without problems. Glauco P. Gomes Andrew Robinson escreveu: While that produces a plain rounded border, it would not allow us to use graphic borders with gradients and such. In

Re: [Trinidad] Skinning and rounded corners

2008-04-25 Thread Matt Cooper
+1 to the extra DOM and corresponding selectors; it is the most flexible On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 4:35 PM, Glauco P. Gomes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: +1 to skining selectors. It's more flexible, and if the user/developer/designer prefer CSS3, he/she can use without problems. Glauco P.

Re: [Trinidad] Skinning and rounded corners

2008-04-25 Thread Andrew Robinson
What about a utility method that could be used for many renderers. It could leverage IE=7, FF, opera and safari's ability to stretch via CSS. function: encodeRounded(baseSelector : string, radius : int) : void if skin supports rounded corners (increase perf): if supports CSS

Re: [Trinidad] Skinning and rounded corners

2008-04-25 Thread Glauco P. Gomes
+1 for tableless. Glauco P. Gomes Andrew Robinson escreveu: What about a utility method that could be used for many renderers. It could leverage IE=7, FF, opera and safari's ability to stretch via CSS. function: encodeRounded(baseSelector : string, radius : int) : void if skin

[Trinidad] Skinning and rounded corners

2008-04-24 Thread Andrew Robinson
Looking at the many of the renderers for Trinidad components I do not see a lot of skinning selectors that would enable rounded corners. For example, the panelTabbed has some nice selectors for the tabs, but only one selector for the body, so it would not be possible to round the body corners,