[jira] Commented: (MYFACES-1855) hidden fields created when using h:commandLink and f:param should be created and removed using javascript

2008-04-11 Thread Mario Ivankovits (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MYFACES-1855?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanelfocusedCommentId=12587862#action_12587862 ] Mario Ivankovits commented on MYFACES-1855: --- It would be really great if you

Re: [Trinidad] private / protected final methods in renderers

2008-04-11 Thread Martin Marinschek
Hi Scott, your statement is really irrelevant - in JSF, renderers are designed to be extended/exchanged. JSF has been built this way. Trinidad (or where Trinidad comes from) tries to make this impossible, out of support reasons inside Oracle. If you go into a wider space, and want Trinidad to be

Re: [Trinidad] private / protected final methods in renderers

2008-04-11 Thread Martin Marinschek
Sounds like a reasonable suggestion - I would love to be able to replace/extend small chunks of code, not having to rewrite/copy the renderer-code fully, so this suggestion might go into this direction. regards, Martin On 4/11/08, Andrew Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay, I have yet

Re: [proposal] jsf validation with annotations

2008-04-11 Thread Martin Marinschek
Hi Gerhard, let's start a vote _after_ we have discussed the code - just give us a link to a zip-file with the code in it somewhere. regards, Martin On 4/11/08, Gerhard Petracek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hello, as mentioned: sev-en started as feasibility study. so there are some topics i

Re: [proposal] jsf validation with annotations

2008-04-11 Thread Gerhard Petracek
ok - i'll upload it within the next view days. regards, gerhard 2008/4/11, Martin Marinschek [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi Gerhard, let's start a vote _after_ we have discussed the code - just give us a link to a zip-file with the code in it somewhere. regards, Martin On 4/11/08, Gerhard

Re: [proposal] jsf validation with annotations

2008-04-11 Thread Gerhard Petracek
ok - i'll upload it within the next few days. should i also provide a list with the main todo's? regards, gerhard 2008/4/11, Gerhard Petracek [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ok - i'll upload it within the next view days. regards, gerhard 2008/4/11, Martin Marinschek [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi

[jira] Resolved: (TOMAHAWK-1214) allow to process form submits in a queue for high-speed input handling

2008-04-11 Thread Mario Ivankovits (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TOMAHAWK-1214?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ] Mario Ivankovits resolved TOMAHAWK-1214. Resolution: Later Immediate need for this feature is no longer existent. It

Re: [Trinidad] why does Trinidad override javax.faces.* renderers?

2008-04-11 Thread cristi . toth
Hey Matthias! Can you give me a concrete use case in which RI could break without this? I would test it during the week-end. thanks, On 4/10/08, Matthias Wessendorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Christi, yes I forgot, that I renamed the method :-) We now *decorate* the HTML_BASIC (see log of

Re: [Trinidad] why does Trinidad override javax.faces.* renderers?

2008-04-11 Thread Martin Marinschek
Try to include an h:commandLink / in a tr:form/ or the other way round and see if you can submit the form like this - if it works, all should be well. It should work with RI 1.2, but also with 1.1 departing from 1.1_04, I think. regards, Martin On 4/11/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Trinidad] private / protected final methods in renderers

2008-04-11 Thread cristi . toth
I like very much Andrew's idea of having more smaller renderers and being able to override them the standard way (via faces-config.xml) Also maybe some of you understood me wrong. I didn't mean that all/most of the renderer methods should be protected. But there are cases where it's needed. Lets

Re: Quickstart + Archetypes...

2008-04-11 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
I saw it during a Wicket talk On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 5:18 PM, Grant Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's very nice. Good find. On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 4:12 AM, Matthias Wessendorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, we now finally have release for our archetypes (thanks leonardo).

[jira] Commented: (MYFACES-1854) f:selectItems does not evaluates EL expressions

2008-04-11 Thread Guy Bashan (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MYFACES-1854?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanelfocusedCommentId=12587921#action_12587921 ] Guy Bashan commented on MYFACES-1854: - The IDE tells me that these xml elements are

Re: [Trinidad] why does Trinidad override javax.faces.* renderers?

2008-04-11 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
Yeah, I know there was some work done, in that area, but... I am lazy... :) so never bothered to check back ;-) On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 10:15 AM, Martin Marinschek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Try to include an h:commandLink / in a tr:form/ or the other way round and see if you can submit the form

[jira] Commented: (TRINIDAD-989) InputListOfValues limitations

2008-04-11 Thread Wolfgang Chico Toepfer (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TRINIDAD-989?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanelfocusedCommentId=12587924#action_12587924 ] Wolfgang Chico Toepfer commented on TRINIDAD-989: - PPR does not seem to

Re: [OT] IP Clearance for Tiles-Kaolin: seeking a volunteer

2008-04-11 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
Antonio, in case you don't find sb. w/ in the next week. I'll volunteer to help (I did it some weeks ago already for my employer) -M On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 5:42 PM, Antonio Petrelli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear friends, First of all, sorry for the cross posting. I am Antonio Petrelli,

Re: [OT] IP Clearance for Tiles-Kaolin: seeking a volunteer

2008-04-11 Thread Antonio Petrelli
2008/4/11, Matthias Wessendorf [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Antonio, in case you don't find sb. w/ in the next week. I'll volunteer to help (I did it some weeks ago already for my employer) Wow! Thanks a lot Matthias! Im this case, when the new week has come, may I ask you to join the Tiles

Re: [Trinidad] delegated sub-renderers

2008-04-11 Thread cristi . toth
Andrew I really like you idea from the other thread (the trick one :) ). Having new renderer types in the API and being able to override them via faces-config sounds much more standard and clean. Probably we should wait and see where the other thread leads to and then start a vote on this

[VOTE] Release Tobago 1.0.16

2008-04-11 Thread Bernd Bohmann
Hello, after my wlan survival I would like to release Tobago 1.0.16, For a detail list please consult the release notes: http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=12310273styleName=Htmlversion=12312966 The version is available at the staging location and the revision

Re: [VOTE] Release Tobago 1.0.16

2008-04-11 Thread Udo Schnurpfeil
Here is my +1 Regards Udo Bernd Bohmann schrieb: Hello, after my wlan survival I would like to release Tobago 1.0.16, For a detail list please consult the release notes: http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=12310273styleName=Htmlversion=12312966 The version is

Re: [Trinidad] private / protected final methods in renderers

2008-04-11 Thread Andy Schwartz
Hey Martin (and all) - It seems to me that what this comes down to is how we view classes in trinidadinternal. There are a range of possible views here: 1. These classes are entirely private/off-limits, and if you want to extend one of these tough luck. No love for you. Go away. 2. These

Re: [Trinidad] private / protected final methods in renderers

2008-04-11 Thread Andrew Robinson
As someone who has experience in attempting to use Trinidad, I think #3 is a requirement for short term usage and #2 as the goal. What I mean by this is that rendereds should make an effort to expose functionality even if it isn't thought through so that ppl can get work done, and then have users

Re: [VOTE] Release Tobago 1.0.16

2008-04-11 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
+1 On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 1:44 PM, Udo Schnurpfeil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here is my +1 Regards Udo Bernd Bohmann schrieb: Hello, after my wlan survival I would like to release Tobago 1.0.16, For a detail list please consult the release notes:

Re: [Trinidad] private / protected final methods in renderers

2008-04-11 Thread Andy Schwartz
Hey Andrew - I think we are getting closer together, but not exactly there yet. :-) On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 10:10 AM, Andrew Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As someone who has experience in attempting to use Trinidad, I think #3 is a requirement for short term usage and #2 as the goal. I

Re: [VOTE] Release Tobago 1.0.16

2008-04-11 Thread Grant Smith
+1 On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 7:33 AM, Matthias Wessendorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: +1 On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 1:44 PM, Udo Schnurpfeil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here is my +1 Regards Udo Bernd Bohmann schrieb: Hello, after my wlan survival I would like to

Re: [Trinidad] private / protected final methods in renderers

2008-04-11 Thread Andrew Robinson
What I mean by this is that rendereds should make an effort to expose functionality even if it isn't thought through I am not a fan of this. If people want to put in the effort to think through APIs that they expose on their renderers, then +1. But big -1 from me for exposing APIs

Re: [Trinidad] private / protected final methods in renderers

2008-04-11 Thread Scott O'Bryan
I pretty much agree with everything Andy said here.. Andy Schwartz wrote: Hey Andrew - I think we are getting closer together, but not exactly there yet. :-) On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 10:10 AM, Andrew Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As someone who has experience in attempting to use

Re: [Trinidad] private / protected final methods in renderers

2008-04-11 Thread Scott O'Bryan
Andrew, That's a fair assesment, but that same pressed for time company will be angry when their stuff no longer works and those will turn into JIRA tickets. I'm not saying we shouldn't make Trinidad more flexible. I'm just saying that it's unrealistic to expose logic hap-hazardly. If this

Re: [Trinidad] private / protected final methods in renderers

2008-04-11 Thread Andrew Robinson
1) the company will not be angry, as I mentioned that I would be making the hack as a temporary solution, fully expecting that it will need to be converted later 2) It is impossible to control renderers 100% through component attributes and Skinning. For example, sometimes their DOM may just be

[jira] Commented: (MYFACES-1855) hidden fields created when using h:commandLink and f:param should be created and removed using javascript

2008-04-11 Thread Leonardo Uribe (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MYFACES-1855?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanelfocusedCommentId=12588044#action_12588044 ] Leonardo Uribe commented on MYFACES-1855: - I will take this suggestion into

Re: [Trinidad] private / protected final methods in renderers

2008-04-11 Thread Blake Sullivan
Andrew Robinson said the following On 4/11/2008 8:53 AM PT: What I mean by this is that rendereds should make an effort to expose functionality even if it isn't thought through I am not a fan of this. If people want to put in the effort to think through APIs that they expose on their

Re: [Trinidad] private / protected final methods in renderers

2008-04-11 Thread Blake Sullivan
Andy Schwartz said the following On 4/11/2008 7:45 AM PT: Hey Andrew - I think we are getting closer together, but not exactly there yet. :-) On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 10:10 AM, Andrew Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As someone who has experience in attempting to use Trinidad, I think #3

Re: [Trinidad] private / protected final methods in renderers

2008-04-11 Thread Andrew Robinson
Rhetorical question--why would a company have such a policy? Companies don't usually make sense, you must be one of those people that think Dilbert is fiction :) I have worked for more than one company that enforces this policy. They hate using open source for liability reasons, and hate you

Re: [Trinidad] private / protected final methods in renderers

2008-04-11 Thread Blake Sullivan
Andrew Robinson said the following On 4/11/2008 11:02 AM PT: Rhetorical question--why would a company have such a policy? Companies don't usually make sense, you must be one of those people that think Dilbert is fiction :) I have worked for more than one company that enforces this

Re: [Trinidad] private / protected final methods in renderers

2008-04-11 Thread Scott O'Bryan
I don't necessarily agree with your last statement Blake. Some of us like to argue for argument's sake. :) Blake Sullivan wrote: Andrew Robinson said the following On 4/11/2008 11:02 AM PT: Rhetorical question--why would a company have such a policy? Companies don't usually make

Re: [Trinidad] private / protected final methods in renderers

2008-04-11 Thread Andrew Robinson
Could we move this discussion away from a debate? Could MyFaces Committers or PMC members _only_ please share their thoughts on this to keep the discussion to the stake holders only? Please share other solutions as you have them. Here some view points to discuss: 1) remove the restriction of

Re: [Trinidad] private / protected final methods in renderers

2008-04-11 Thread Simon Lessard
Hello, 1) remove the restriction of trinidad-impl being non-API and enforce that code in this package be backward-compatible No, it's way too messed up still to say that we're going to be backward compatible, ui and uinode for example and some renderer are messed up as well, they renderer what

New to Trinidad

2008-04-11 Thread Nutulapati, Krishna
Hello all, I have currently been working with JSF, SPRING, HIBERNATE WITH FACELETS. I recently looked into apache trinidad, And felt that it is good fit for my requirement. I just downloaded trinidad examples war file and apache trinidad, and run it from tomcat. The application, is very big

[jira] Created: (MYFACES-1858) Resource bundle values are not evaluated properly in java code

2008-04-11 Thread Guy Bashan (JIRA)
Resource bundle values are not evaluated properly in java code -- Key: MYFACES-1858 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MYFACES-1858 Project: MyFaces Core Issue Type: Bug

Re: [Trinidad] private / protected final methods in renderers

2008-04-11 Thread Andrew Robinson
BTW, I want to apologize to making this thread out to be such a mess and hope that I haven't damaged Christi's goal with improving the library. I tend to get too passionate about code and get quite bothered when only negative feedback is offered with no constructive comments to suggest forward

Re: [Trinidad] private / protected final methods in renderers

2008-04-11 Thread Scott O'Bryan
Andrew Robinson wrote: Could we move this discussion away from a debate? Could MyFaces Committers or PMC members _only_ please share their thoughts on this to keep the discussion to the stake holders only? Please share other solutions as you have them. Here some view points to discuss: 1)

New to Trinidad Please help

2008-04-11 Thread Nutulapati, Krishna
-Original Message- From: Nutulapati, Krishna Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 2:58 PM To: 'MyFaces Development' Subject: New to Trinidad Hello all, I have currently been working with JSF, SPRING, HIBERNATE WITH FACELETS. I recently looked into apache trinidad, And felt that it is good

Re: New to Trinidad Please help

2008-04-11 Thread Andrew Robinson
Krishna, please post to the users list for these type of questions. The dev list is for MyFaces developers to collaborate on working on the code, not working with the code. Thanks, Andrew On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 2:50 PM, Nutulapati, Krishna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message-

Re: [Trinidad] private / protected final methods in renderers

2008-04-11 Thread Gabrielle Crawford
Generally I really do agree with Simon that a simple, serious redesign of every component would probably do better than hooks. Also, I really think once you put restrictions on your renderers you run into issues, like you have a bug or a new feature which makes you need to reorganize in an

[jira] Updated: (TRINIDAD-1037) Trinidad tree/treeTable expand all handling

2008-04-11 Thread Scott O'Bryan (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TRINIDAD-1037?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ] Scott O'Bryan updated TRINIDAD-1037: Resolution: Fixed Fix Version/s: (was: 1.2.7-core)

[jira] Created: (MYFACES-1859) Optimize javascript following good practices

2008-04-11 Thread Leonardo Uribe (JIRA)
Optimize javascript following good practices Key: MYFACES-1859 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MYFACES-1859 Project: MyFaces Core Issue Type: Improvement Reporter: Leonardo

[jira] Created: (TRINIDAD-1049) XmlHttpConfigurator is implemented incorrectly

2008-04-11 Thread Scott O'Bryan (JIRA)
XmlHttpConfigurator is implemented incorrectly -- Key: TRINIDAD-1049 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TRINIDAD-1049 Project: MyFaces Trinidad Issue Type: Bug Affects Versions:

[jira] Commented: (MYFACES-1842) commandLink with parameters behaves differently in Firefox and IE

2008-04-11 Thread Leonardo Uribe (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MYFACES-1842?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanelfocusedCommentId=12588155#action_12588155 ] Leonardo Uribe commented on MYFACES-1842: - After checking the problem and try to

[jira] Commented: (MYFACES-1691) beforeUnload event handler breaks form submission

2008-04-11 Thread Leonardo Uribe (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MYFACES-1691?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanelfocusedCommentId=12588159#action_12588159 ] Leonardo Uribe commented on MYFACES-1691: - I have tested this on firefox and IE

[jira] Commented: (MYFACES-1726) IE7 - AutoComplete Does Not Work When You Use Script to Submit a Form

2008-04-11 Thread Leonardo Uribe (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MYFACES-1726?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanelfocusedCommentId=12588166#action_12588166 ] Leonardo Uribe commented on MYFACES-1726: - On the http page mentioned before:

Re: [All MyFaces] Local properties vs. ValueExpression/Binding

2008-04-11 Thread Andrew Robinson
Could it be done in an event mechanism? Some way of letting a listener say that it handled the event and therefore not have the property updated on the component? I honestly cannot think of a solution at this time that sounds good Andrew On 4/8/08, Martin Marinschek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One