Re: Proposal Jira (was Re: Partial Page Rendering for tomahawk)

2006-08-25 Thread Mike Kienenberger
On 8/25/06, Wendy Smoak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd be thrilled to have every commit reference a JIRA issue, but that's probably too much to ask all at once. For now I'll be happy with seeing more of them, and maybe we can move closer to 'all' at some point in the future. I am also strongly

[jira] Created: (TOMAHAWK-618) Partial Page Rendering for tomahawk

2006-08-24 Thread Ernst Fastl (JIRA)
Partial Page Rendering for tomahawk --- Key: TOMAHAWK-618 URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TOMAHAWK-618 Project: MyFaces Tomahawk Issue Type: New Feature Components: New Component

Re: Proposal Jira (was Re: Partial Page Rendering for tomahawk)

2006-08-24 Thread Mike Kienenberger
This is not the first time that the use of JIRA for tracking changes has come up. http://www.mail-archive.com/dev@myfaces.apache.org/msg13737.html Every commit has the possibility of breaking the codebase or changing expected behavior, and having JIRA issues helps to know why and how these

[jira] Updated: (TOMAHAWK-618) Partial Page Rendering for tomahawk

2006-08-24 Thread Catalin Kormos (JIRA)
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TOMAHAWK-618?page=all ] Catalin Kormos updated TOMAHAWK-618: Status: Patch Available (was: Open) Partial Page Rendering for tomahawk --- Key: TOMAHAWK-618

Re: Partial Page Rendering for tomahawk

2006-08-23 Thread Cagatay Civici
Hi,Well, sandbox or not. I missed the discussion. Remember client sidevalidation stuff? That was a good thread. Or the s:secureTag thread? These two weremuch more open development than here, I guess. Maybe that's all Imissed here. But to me this particular commit *smells*. Sorry, but that's my

Re: Partial Page Rendering for tomahawk

2006-08-23 Thread Mario Ivankovits
Hi all! This is a initial commit so it is not yet well tested and there are still a lot of things to do, but if anyone wants to start playing around with it and making suggestions for improvements I would be thankful for some feedback. JFYI - I've started to try to use it in our application,

Re: Proposal Jira (was Re: Partial Page Rendering for tomahawk)

2006-08-23 Thread Martin Marinschek
Ok, but that's a far cry from Matze's for all commits. For all major enhancements, I'm absolutely d'accord. regards, Martin On 8/23/06, Wendy Smoak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 8/22/06, Martin Marinschek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I really don't see the necessity for MyFaces committers to do

Re: Proposal Jira (was Re: Partial Page Rendering for tomahawk)

2006-08-23 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
almost all ;) wendy pointed out more detailed, what I was thinking about :) On 8/23/06, Martin Marinschek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, but that's a far cry from Matze's for all commits. For all major enhancements, I'm absolutely d'accord. regards, Martin On 8/23/06, Wendy Smoak [EMAIL

Re: Proposal Jira (was Re: Partial Page Rendering for tomahawk)

2006-08-23 Thread Cagatay Civici
In my case, JIRA helps me to keep track of things I'm working on. For example I've created issues for stuff like security resolver, excel exporter, client side validation and assigned these to myself. Of course this seems unnecessary for minor commits. On 8/23/06, Matthias Wessendorf [EMAIL

Re: Proposal Jira (was Re: Partial Page Rendering for tomahawk)

2006-08-23 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
yeah same for fixing typos or else ;) I had your stuff in mind, when I wrote these emails I quoted some threads On 8/23/06, Cagatay Civici [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In my case, JIRA helps me to keep track of things I'm working on. For example I've created issues for stuff like security

Partial Page Rendering for tomahawk

2006-08-22 Thread Ernst Fastl
Hello everyone, After verifying the patches I send him Catalin was so kind and commited the new sandbox component called PPRPanelGroup to the sandbox. With this component you can souround areas of a page which you want to be updated by AJAX calls. You just specify in the

Re: Partial Page Rendering for tomahawk

2006-08-22 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
After verifying the patches I send him Catalin was so kind and commited the which patches? what is the Jira issue number for that? new sandbox component called PPRPanelGroup to the sandbox. With this component you can souround areas of a page which you want to be updated by AJAX calls. You

Re: Partial Page Rendering for tomahawk

2006-08-22 Thread Wendy Smoak
On 8/22/06, Ernst Fastl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello everyone, After verifying the patches I send him Catalin was so kind and commited the new sandbox component called PPRPanelGroup to the sandbox. Hi there! I think that's the commit I just commented on. :) Matthias already asked if

Re: Partial Page Rendering for tomahawk

2006-08-22 Thread Martin Marinschek
For a substantial contribution like this, we'll need a CLA on file in any case (even if the code came in through a jira-issue). regards, Martin On 8/22/06, Wendy Smoak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 8/22/06, Ernst Fastl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello everyone, After verifying the patches I

Re: Partial Page Rendering for tomahawk

2006-08-22 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
I am not concerned about the icla or not I am more concerned about the fact that patches sent offline and not through Jira. I mean, why ? On 8/22/06, Martin Marinschek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For a substantial contribution like this, we'll need a CLA on file in any case (even if the code came

Proposal Jira (was Re: Partial Page Rendering for tomahawk)

2006-08-22 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
what about using Jira first. for almost all commits ? I mean this makes us more efficent to follow the development process ;) So each change to API, non trivial enhancement, etc must! go through jira. WDYT ? -Matthias On 8/22/06, Matthias Wessendorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am not

Re: Partial Page Rendering for tomahawk

2006-08-22 Thread Craig McClanahan
On 8/22/06, Matthias Wessendorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am not concerned about the icla or notAs a PMC member for Apache MyFaces, you *should* be concerned about this.Part of the responsibility that the ASF Board delegates to each PMC is to ensure that all code ultimately included in the

Re: Partial Page Rendering for tomahawk

2006-08-22 Thread Mario Ivankovits
Hi Matthias! The sort of offline development. Sending offline a patch to a committer for letting him commit the stuff is to me a -1. Looks like a bypass. Do you propose to use jira as mini-incubator? I am not sure this is what it is meant for. In this case it was committed to the sandbox, no?

Re: Partial Page Rendering for tomahawk

2006-08-22 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
On 8/22/06, Mario Ivankovits [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Matthias! The sort of offline development. Sending offline a patch to a committer for letting him commit the stuff is to me a -1. Looks like a bypass. Do you propose to use jira as mini-incubator? I am not sure this is what it is meant

Re: Partial Page Rendering for tomahawk

2006-08-22 Thread Martin Marinschek
Matthias, you're absolutely right - I'm just as concerned as you about offline development, and asked Ernst several times to engage in an discussion on the mailing list. He did so in the beginning, but then ended up going back to his desk to finish off his first draft of what the PPR support

Re: Proposal Jira (was Re: Partial Page Rendering for tomahawk)

2006-08-22 Thread Martin Marinschek
I really don't see the necessity for MyFaces committers to do all extensions of MyFaces through jira, if sufficient communication has happened on the developer list first. Why do you think that opening a jira-issue and adding patches will make us more efficient in the development process?

Re: Proposal Jira (was Re: Partial Page Rendering for tomahawk)

2006-08-22 Thread Martin Marinschek
One clarification: For external contributions, a jira-issue definitely makes sense. regards, Martin On 8/23/06, Martin Marinschek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I really don't see the necessity for MyFaces committers to do all extensions of MyFaces through jira, if sufficient communication has

Re: Proposal Jira (was Re: Partial Page Rendering for tomahawk)

2006-08-22 Thread Craig McClanahan
On 8/22/06, Martin Marinschek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One clarification: For external contributions, a jira-issue definitelymakes sense.A behavior that both the Struts and Shale communities have adopted (albeit recently in the case of Shale :-) is to have a JIRA issue for pretty much any