Hi,
On Fri, Sep 7, 2018 at 8:38 PM Will Hartung wrote:
> ...So, what it's the definition of distribution? Hosted on Apache
> infrastructure?...
Yes that's my understanding. Apache artifacts are distributed via our
mirroring system [1] and that's only for software that we produce.
OTOH if the
On Tue, Sep 4, 2018 at 2:59 PM Geertjan Wielenga
wrote:
> No, it doesn't mean anything at all -- except that what we're trying to do
> here is figure out the best way to solve this particular scenario.
>
> We're discussing here, you're welcome to join in. Where should the binaries
> be hosted,
On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 at 20:10, Geertjan Wielenga
wrote:
>
> That makes sense. Anyone should be able to host it, though it doesn't sound
> like that would be Apache, and it would be best to be as independent as
> possible from Oracle, hence better some other external place -- though
> would that
No, it doesn't mean anything at all -- except that what we're trying to do
here is figure out the best way to solve this particular scenario.
We're discussing here, you're welcome to join in. Where should the binaries
be hosted, in your opinion? That would help, if you have an opinion on
this,
On Tue, Sep 4, 2018 at 11:19 AM Geertjan Wielenga
wrote:
> Note that Oracle has not, and will not, donate the canonical archive of
> NetBeans to Apache. Only the tips of the source code that constitute
> NetBeans are being donated.
>
So does that mean, for example, that after nb.org gets
That makes sense. Anyone should be able to host it, though it doesn't sound
like that would be Apache, and it would be best to be as independent as
possible from Oracle, hence better some other external place -- though
would that have to comply with Apache branding rules?
Gj
On Tue, Sep 4, 2018
On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 at 19:19, Geertjan Wielenga
wrote:
>
> Note that Oracle has not, and will not, donate the canonical archive of
> NetBeans to Apache. Only the tips of the source code that constitute
> NetBeans are being donated.
>
I know, but that is separate to where it gets hosted. Anyone
Note that Oracle has not, and will not, donate the canonical archive of
NetBeans to Apache. Only the tips of the source code that constitute
NetBeans are being donated.
Gj
On Tuesday, September 4, 2018, Neil C Smith wrote:
> On Tue, 4 Sep 2018, 11:35 Ate Douma, wrote:
> > Just chiming in and
On Tue, 4 Sep 2018, 11:35 Ate Douma, wrote:
> Just chiming in and Bertrand may have some more explicit answer, but the
> answer below from Roman *only* concerns allowing *linking* to
> prior official releases. That is very different from *distributing*
> such prior release artifacts from
Hi,
On Tue, Sep 4, 2018 at 12:35 PM Ate Douma wrote:
> ...the
> answer below from Roman *only* concerns allowing *linking* to
> prior official releases. That is very different from *distributing*
> such prior release artifacts from apache.org, which isn't allowed...
I agree with Ate here, it's
On 2018-09-04 12:15, Neil C Smith wrote:
Hi Bertrand,
On Mon, 3 Sep 2018 at 14:31, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
No, only Apache Releases (and the corresponding convenience binaries)
can be distributed from apache.org, if non-Apache releases need to
stay up a different solution will be
Hi Bertrand,
On Mon, 3 Sep 2018 at 14:31, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
> No, only Apache Releases (and the corresponding convenience binaries)
> can be distributed from apache.org, if non-Apache releases need to
> stay up a different solution will be required.
I quoted this email exchange from
Am 03.09.2018 um 15:31 schrieb Bertrand Delacretaz:
On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 11:28 PM Will Hartung wrote:
...Is it even possible for the Apache foundation to distribute older artifacts
if they have, for example, GPL licensed parts within them?...
No, only Apache Releases (and the
Hi,
On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 11:28 PM Will Hartung wrote:
> ...Is it even possible for the Apache foundation to distribute older artifacts
> if they have, for example, GPL licensed parts within them?...
No, only Apache Releases (and the corresponding convenience binaries)
can be distributed from
Sorry, I see there's a typo in my last response.
To be very clear: netbeans.org is not disappearing. :-) Once the domain
transitions to Apache, it will be rerouted to netbeans.apache.org so that
whether netbeans.org or netbeans.apache.org is typed in the browser, you'll
end up at
I don't think anyone is talking about "having a large, established web
presence just vanish in to the ether".
Why would anyone anywhere suggest that? :-) The idea isn that netbeans.org
is going to be rerouted to netbeans.apache.org.
Gj
On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 11:28 PM Will Hartung wrote:
> On
On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 5:10 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
> Yes - I think the only requirement at this point is that the
> *ownership* of the domains is transferred to Apache, moving the
> content is a separate concern.
>
Is it even possible for the Apache foundation to distribute older
On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 3:41 PM Andreas Sewe wrote:
> ...If you switch just the groupId from org.netbeans to
> org.apache.netbeans (but leave artifactIds and package names intact),
> then this is relatively painless, thanks to so-called relocation POMs [1]
Yes, and that's something that
Hi,
> We've discussed it before, will try to track it down -- I think there'd be
> various problems if we switch the names of Maven artifacts to
> org.apache.netbeans, though correct me if I'm wrong or add additional
> points here related to this, anyone who has insights here.
just a pointer: If
23. srpna 2018 13:37:23 SELČ, Bertrand Delacretaz
napsal:
>Hi,
>
>On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 1:01 PM Geertjan Wielenga
> wrote:
>> ...A related knock-on effect is that org.netbeans will be available
>for Apache
>> NetBeans Maven archetypes, since the netbeans.org domain will belong
>to
>>
On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 1:46 PM Neil C Smith wrote:
> ...The DNS settings
> could still point back to Oracle hosting for all, then select,
> subdomains
Yes - I think the only requirement at this point is that the
*ownership* of the domains is transferred to Apache, moving the
content is a
Yes, thanks for flagging this topic.
We've discussed it before, will try to track it down -- I think there'd be
various problems if we switch the names of Maven artifacts to
org.apache.netbeans, though correct me if I'm wrong or add additional
points here related to this, anyone who has insights
> On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 1:01 PM, Geertjan Wielenga <
> geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > To add to the fun, we're getting really close now to actually
> > transitioning the NetBeans brand and domains to Apache.
For everyone else, there was a very brief off-list discussion on this
Hi,
On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 1:01 PM Geertjan Wielenga
wrote:
> ...A related knock-on effect is that org.netbeans will be available for Apache
> NetBeans Maven archetypes, since the netbeans.org domain will belong to
> Apache...
I suppose you mean Maven *artifacts*.
Note that AFAIK NetBeans
Hi all,
To add to the fun, we're getting really close now to actually transitioning
the NetBeans brand and domains to Apache.
I.e., netbeans.org and several other domains are in process of being
donated to Apache. We have the go ahead from Apache VP to open an INFRA
ticket for the transfer of
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