Re: [mentors] + PPMC, Apache Maturity Model self-assessment and graduation

2018-10-01 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi, On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 11:05 AM Eric Barboni wrote: > ...To do maven release we need nb-repository-plugin to be donated first, then > we can modify the code > to fulfill the needs to cope with Apache rules Note that it's fine to use a non-Apache Maven plugin if its license allows it.

Re: [mentors] + PPMC, Apache Maturity Model self-assessment and graduation

2018-10-01 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Here, please, we need to move forward with this, and are wasting a lot of time with this now: https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/6961eedc9d258daf98340cdb484598920ec089a6c11097531cbb93ee@%3Cdev.netbeans.apache.org%3E Gj On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 11:35 AM Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > On Mon,

Re: [mentors] + PPMC, Apache Maturity Model self-assessment and graduation

2018-10-01 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Yes, it's simply a question of timing. We are, in fact, not comfortable in the incubator at all, we want to be a TLP as soon as possible, but we cannot do everything at once, especially now that we're entering the release process for Apache NetBeans 10. Gj On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 11:36 AM

Re: [mentors] + PPMC, Apache Maturity Model self-assessment and graduation

2018-10-01 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 8:38 AM Geertjan Wielenga wrote: > ...I propose we revisit this discussion after Apache NetBeans 10 is released > in November... Works for me! > ...So we could then focus on the TLP status during December... Sounds good as a tentative goal. Your previous messages make me

Re: [mentors] + PPMC, Apache Maturity Model self-assessment and graduation

2018-10-01 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
I propose we revisit this discussion after Apache NetBeans 10 is released in November, at which point several of the other items, i.e., javadoc, Maven, and domain ownership, should also be sorted out better and we’ll have a clearer picture of where we are. So we could then focus on the TLP status

Re: [mentors] + PPMC, Apache Maturity Model self-assessment and graduation

2018-10-01 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
There are just so many open items right now, there simply isn’t time for this TLP process right now. Can mentors please assist in helping Eric Barboni with his requests for assistance regarding Maven artefacts and in getting the DNS management of NetBeans zones received from Oracle set up.

Re: [mentors] + PPMC, Apache Maturity Model self-assessment and graduation

2018-10-01 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 7:40 AM Mark Struberg wrote: > ...Probably we should go forward and extend Geertjans list of high-level > topics which more input from the community... Sounds good to me provided someone is willing to drive this! -Bertrand

Re: [mentors] + PPMC, Apache Maturity Model self-assessment and graduation

2018-10-01 Thread Mark Struberg
I'm +1 with Bertrand's summary regarding community. The only thing which pops up in my head is the trademark transfer. This will become effective when NetBeans goes TLP. And of course there is a xor lock with the domains. So we should at least reach a state where Oracle also is happy and has

Re: [mentors] + PPMC, Apache Maturity Model self-assessment and graduation

2018-10-01 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi, (sorry for the late reply, overloooked these responses initially) On Sat, Sep 22, 2018 at 12:44 PM Geertjan Wielenga wrote: > ...I think it would be best to wait until we have done/figured out the > following... I don't think any of the points listed below should block graduation.

Re: [mentors] + PPMC, Apache Maturity Model self-assessment and graduation

2018-09-23 Thread Antonio
+1 to Geertjan words. I am particulary concerned about: "CD30 The code can be built in a reproducible way using widely available standard tools." We of course can build NetBeans using "widely available standard tools" (Apache Ant). But I am not sure the build is reproducible if the

Re: [mentors] + PPMC, Apache Maturity Model self-assessment and graduation

2018-09-22 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
6. Maven artifacts available, now possible because Apache now owns the org.netbeans domain. Gj On Saturday, September 22, 2018, Geertjan Wielenga < geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: > It's good to hear these positive signals from the Apache NetBeans mentors, > many thanks. > > It is

Re: [mentors] + PPMC, Apache Maturity Model self-assessment and graduation

2018-09-22 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
It's good to hear these positive signals from the Apache NetBeans mentors, many thanks. It is truly a reflection as well of the support that the mentors and the Apache infrastructure as a whole have given Apache NetBeans -- and, bear in mind, all of it for free. Really, unbelievable, when you

Re: [mentors] + PPMC, Apache Maturity Model self-assessment and graduation

2018-09-21 Thread Mark Struberg
+1, community is big enough and self government works reasonably well. The best part is that lots of people already developed a sense about what might potentially be not ok for the ASF. LieGrue,strub On Thursday, 20 September 2018, 11:43:46 CEST, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: Hi

[mentors] + PPMC, Apache Maturity Model self-assessment and graduation

2018-09-20 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi Netbeans mentors + PPMC. I feel that NetBeans is getting ready to graduate, and would welcome other opinions on this (either here or on the private@ list if really needed), especially from mentors. I think there are more donations upcoming but as the NetBeans PPMC has demonstrated it knows