Re: People complaining about a real release

2008-06-22 Thread Jacques Le Roux
Hey Ashish, You were right, here is one : could we not use the work done in https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-1700 ? I think, Tim is the man who can answer... Thanks Jacques From: Jacques Le Roux [EMAIL PROTECTED] We may hope, yes. Jacques From: Ashish Vijaywargiya [EMAIL

Re: People complaining about a real release

2008-06-19 Thread Jacques Le Roux
We may hope, yes. Jacques From: Ashish Vijaywargiya [EMAIL PROTECTED] Inline On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 1:41 PM, Jacques Le Roux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Tim, I have updated the wiki accordingly. We should not get anymore any complaints :p I am sure instead getting complaints we

Re: People complaining about a real release

2008-06-18 Thread Jacques Le Roux
Tim, That's great. Could it be possible to have some words about the size (just telling people that's both are about 100MB to donwload) ? I will try to test them both today and will update wiki accordingly. Thanks Jacques From: Tim Ruppert [EMAIL PROTECTED] Just so that everyone knows, the

Re: People complaining about a real release

2008-06-18 Thread Ashish Vijaywargiya
Jacques , (just telling people that's both are about 100MB to donwload) Adding the details about the external jar files will be good to put altogether. The size of both are about 100MB (External jars size included in the project is around 40MB or 50MB whatever it is) Let's see what other has to

Re: People complaining about a real release

2008-06-18 Thread Ashish Vijaywargiya
I will like the second option i.e if we should simply add it to the Nightly Builds, What Do I Get? . -- Ashish On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 7:43 AM, Tim Ruppert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We can do whatever you like - if you just want it to show the size of each of the files, we can do that - or if

Re: People complaining about a real release

2008-06-18 Thread Jacques Le Roux
I prefer the 1st if it's easy to set :o) I tested (only launched and opened front and back on Windows), not surprinsgly they work well both (release and trunk) BTW I see that we do an svn co instead of an svn export Jacopo suggested (pro : less files and space from 117MB to 95 for trunk for

Re: People complaining about a real release

2008-06-18 Thread Jacques Le Roux
Also in the Nightly Builds, What Do I Get? page we currently have 1.. install Java SDK version 1.5 2.. download and decompress the desired build file 3.. run the executable jar file: 1.. on the command line: % java -Xmx256M -jar ofbiz.jar 2.. in a file explorer/finder window

Re: People complaining about a real release

2008-06-18 Thread Jacques Le Roux
@ofbiz.apache.org Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 3:34 PM Subject: Re: People complaining about a real release Also in the Nightly Builds, What Do I Get? page we currently have 1.. install Java SDK version 1.5 2.. download and decompress the desired build file 3.. run the executable jar file: 1

Re: People complaining about a real release

2008-06-18 Thread Tim Ruppert
PM Subject: Re: People complaining about a real release Also in the Nightly Builds, What Do I Get? page we currently have 1.. install Java SDK version 1.5 2.. download and decompress the desired build file 3.. run the executable jar file: 1.. on the command line: % java -Xmx256M -jar

Re: People complaining about a real release

2008-06-18 Thread Tim Ruppert
Jacques, this is what I'm thinking: 1. SVN export -- I'm not a big fan of the export for just the reason you mentioned -- they'd need to redownload the whole thing to start working directly from it -- I think that's a bigger pain than having the SVN files in there. 2. Filesize - I'll put

Re: People complaining about a real release

2008-06-18 Thread Jacques Le Roux
Tim, First of all thanks for you work on this. I'm sure it's not as easy as it may look from outside. From: Tim Ruppert [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jacques, this is what I'm thinking: 1. SVN export -- I'm not a big fan of the export for just the reason you mentioned -- they'd need to redownload the

Re: People complaining about a real release

2008-06-18 Thread Tim Ruppert
Inline On Jun 18, 2008, at 10:16 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: Tim, First of all thanks for you work on this. I'm sure it's not as easy as it may look from outside. From: Tim Ruppert [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jacques, this is what I'm thinking: 1. SVN export -- I'm not a big fan of the export for

Re: People complaining about a real release

2008-06-18 Thread Jacques Le Roux
From: Tim Ruppert [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Did you have something else in mind? Something very simple (harcoded) as in footer.ftl files in release4.0 The only problem is that since this isn't based upon SVN keywords or anything, that we'll have an updated footer.ftl with incorrect information

Re: People complaining about a real release

2008-06-18 Thread Tim Ruppert
Everything's up there except the new filename with the SVN version number in it - which will happen sometime later today. Cheers, Tim -- Tim Ruppert HotWax Media http://www.hotwaxmedia.com o:801.649.6594 f:801.649.6595 On Jun 18, 2008, at 11:13 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: From: Tim Ruppert

Re: People complaining about a real release

2008-06-17 Thread Tim Ruppert
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Re: People complaining about a real release

2008-06-12 Thread Scott Gray
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Re: People complaining about a real release

2008-06-09 Thread Scott Gray
] [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] gt; Subject: Re: People complaining about a real release To: dev@ofbiz.apache.org Date: Saturday, June 7, 2008, 10:45 AM Adrian, Yes good idea, using Potgres I forgot Derby. A bit

Re: People complaining about a real release

2008-06-09 Thread Jacques Le Roux
][EMAIL PROTECTED] gt; Subject: Re: People complaining about a real release To: dev@ofbiz.apache.org Date: Saturday, June 7, 2008, 10:45 AM Adrian, Yes good idea, using Potgres I forgot Derby. A bit more work on our side though. Moreover, as we don't know the platform which will be used, we have

Re: People complaining about a real release

2008-06-08 Thread Jacques Le Roux
] Are you doing an svn export - to remove all the .svn folders? --- On Sat, 6/7/08, Jacques Le Roux lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; wrote: From: Jacques Le Roux lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] gt; Subject: Re: People complaining about a real release To: dev@ofbiz.apache.org Date

Re: People complaining about a real release

2008-06-08 Thread Scott Gray
? --- On Sat, 6/7/08, Jacques Le Roux lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] gt; wrote: From: Jacques Le Roux lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] gt; Subject: Re: People complaining about a real release To: dev@ofbiz.apache.org

Re: People complaining about a real release

2008-06-08 Thread Jacques Le Roux
lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] gt; Subject: Re: People complaining about a real release To: dev@ofbiz.apache.org Date: Saturday, June 7, 2008, 10:45 AM Adrian, Yes good idea, using Potgres I forgot Derby. A bit more work on our side though. Moreover

Re: People complaining about a real release

2008-06-07 Thread Jacques Le Roux
@ofbiz.apache.org Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2008 4:41 PM Subject: Re: People complaining about a real release Hi all, I began to work on this, I request your opinions, advices. I have : 1. Made an svn export of trunk (rev. 664255) and release4.0 (rev. 664343) and zipped them in 2 zip archives

Re: People complaining about a real release

2008-06-07 Thread Jacques Le Roux
+0200 I don't know why I'm getting a such high spam score. Hope this one will get through... Jacques - Original Message - From: Jacques Le Roux [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: dev@ofbiz.apache.org Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2008 4:41 PM Subject: Re: People complaining about a real release Hi

Re: People complaining about a real release

2008-06-07 Thread Adrian Crum
Why not have the zip file contain a ready-to-run version of OFBiz? In other words, run the install, then zip it. -Adrian --- On Sat, 6/7/08, Jacques Le Roux lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; wrote: Hi all, I began to work on this, I request your opinions, advices. I have : 1. Made an svn export of

Re: People complaining about a real release

2008-06-07 Thread Jacques Le Roux
Adrian, Yes good idea, using Potgres I forgot Derby. A bit more work on our side though. Moreover, as we don't know the platform which will be used, we have to add the plugin.jar in base/lib in each. FYI, the respective size of zipped trunk and release are 50MB and 40MB before creating demo

Re: People complaining about a real release

2008-06-07 Thread Adrian Crum
Are you doing an svn export - to remove all the .svn folders? --- On Sat, 6/7/08, Jacques Le Roux lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; wrote: From: Jacques Le Roux lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; Subject: Re: People complaining about a real release To: dev@ofbiz.apache.org Date: Saturday, June 7, 2008, 10:45 AM

Re: People complaining about a real release

2008-06-07 Thread Jacques Le Roux
about a real release To: dev@ofbiz.apache.org Date: Saturday, June 7, 2008, 10:45 AM Adrian, Yes good idea, using Potgres I forgot Derby. A bit more work on our side though. Moreover, as we don't know the platform which will be used, we have to add the plugin.jar in base/lib in each. FYI

Re: People complaining about a real release

2008-06-07 Thread Bruno Busco
PROTECTED]gt; Subject: Re: People complaining about a real release To: dev@ofbiz.apache.org Date: Saturday, June 7, 2008, 10:45 AM Adrian, Yes good idea, using Potgres I forgot Derby. A bit more work on our side though. Moreover, as we don't know the platform which will be used, we have to add

Re: People complaining about a real release

2008-06-07 Thread Jacques Le Roux
Roux lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; wrote: From: Jacques Le Roux lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; Subject: Re: People complaining about a real release To: dev@ofbiz.apache.org Date: Saturday, June 7, 2008, 10:45 AM Adrian, Yes good idea, using Potgres I forgot Derby. A bit more

Re: People complaining about a real release

2008-06-07 Thread Bruno Busco
: Jacques Le Roux lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; Subject: Re: People complaining about a real release To: dev@ofbiz.apache.org Date: Saturday, June 7, 2008, 10:45 AM Adrian, Yes good idea, using Potgres I forgot Derby. A bit more work on our side

Re: People complaining about a real release

2008-06-07 Thread Tim Ruppert
PROTECTED]gt; wrote: From: Jacques Le Roux lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] gt; Subject: Re: People complaining about a real release To: dev@ofbiz.apache.org Date: Saturday, June 7, 2008, 10:45 AM Adrian, Yes good idea, using Potgres I forgot Derby. A bit more work on our side though. Moreover

Re: People complaining about a real release

2008-06-07 Thread Jacques Le Roux
all the .svn folders? --- On Sat, 6/7/08, Jacques Le Roux lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; wrote: From: Jacques Le Roux lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] gt; Subject: Re: People complaining about a real release To: dev@ofbiz.apache.org Date: Saturday, June 7, 2008, 10:45 AM Adrian

Re: People complaining about a real release

2008-06-07 Thread Tim Ruppert
] [EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; wrote: From: Jacques Le Roux lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] gt; Subject: Re: People complaining about a real release To: dev@ofbiz.apache.org Date: Saturday, June 7, 2008, 10:45 AM Adrian, Yes good idea, using Potgres I forgot Derby. A bit more work on our side

Re: People complaining about a real release

2008-06-07 Thread Tim Ruppert
Roux lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] gt; Subject: Re: People complaining about a real release To: dev@ofbiz.apache.org Date: Saturday, June 7, 2008, 10:45 AM Adrian, Yes good idea, using Potgres I forgot Derby. A bit more work on our side though. Moreover, as we don't know the platform

Re: People complaining about a real release

2008-06-07 Thread Tim Ruppert
doing an svn export - to remove all the .svn folders? --- On Sat, 6/7/08, Jacques Le Roux lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; wrote: From: Jacques Le Roux lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] gt; Subject: Re: People complaining about a real release To: dev@ofbiz.apache.org Date: Saturday

Re: People complaining about a real release

2008-06-07 Thread Tim Ruppert
From: Adrian Crum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Are you doing an svn export - to remove all the .svn folders? --- On Sat, 6/7/08, Jacques Le Roux lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; wrote: From: Jacques Le Roux lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] gt; Subject: Re: People complaining about

Re: People complaining about a real release

2008-06-01 Thread Jacopo Cappellato
A small detail after reading the comments in that Confluence page: ant is no more required to setup OFBiz because we have integrated it into OFBiz. Jacopo On Jun 1, 2008, at 10:22 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: Hi All, We begin to have more and more unpleasant comments like this one

Re: People complaining about a real release

2008-06-01 Thread Jacopo Cappellato
We already talked about this subject in the past... in my opinion a very simple (to manage for the community) and effective way of helping new users, with minimal technical knowledge, that just want to quickly taste how OFBiz is setup in their pc, is to provide a weekly (or montly) zipped

People complaining about a real release

2008-06-01 Thread Jacques Le Roux
Hi All, We begin to have more and more unpleasant comments like this one http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBADMIN/Demo+and+Test+Setup+Guide?focusedCommentId=4377#comment-4377 Should we not take them into account one day or another even if our build processes is so simple ? Tough, maybe we could

Re: People complaining about a real release

2008-06-01 Thread Jacques Le Roux
Hi Jacopo, Thanks for comment, so I would like to try by following http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBADMIN/Release+Plan for trunk and release. I would then put attachments to this page when all would be tested and ok (or maybe create a new specific child page for that). My goal is to have

Re: People complaining about a real release

2008-06-01 Thread Jacopo Cappellato
Hi Jacques, actually, I was not talking about a new release... I was just suggesting to provide some sort of downloadable snapshot of the trunk. Jacopo On Jun 1, 2008, at 3:55 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: Hi Jacopo, Thanks for comment, so I would like to try by following

Re: People complaining about a real release

2008-06-01 Thread Tim Ruppert
Yeah - we can easily make this part of the nightly build and post a link to the most recent one if this is something everyone is into. Cheers, Tim -- Tim Ruppert HotWax Media http://www.hotwaxmedia.com o:801.649.6594 f:801.649.6595 On Jun 1, 2008, at 9:04 AM, Anil Patel wrote: Providing a

Re: People complaining about a real release

2008-06-01 Thread Anil Patel
Providing a downloadable snapshot is a good Idea. Its light weight process compared to doing a release. We can get started anytime. Regards Anil Patel On Jun 1, 2008, at 10:47 AM, Jacopo Cappellato wrote: Hi Jacques, actually, I was not talking about a new release... I was just

Re: People complaining about a real release

2008-06-01 Thread Jacques Le Roux
could help here) Jacques - Original Message - From: Jacopo Cappellato [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: dev@ofbiz.apache.org Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2008 4:47 PM Subject: Re: People complaining about a real release Hi Jacques, actually, I was not talking about a new release... I was just