Re: Updating Java libraries

2013-02-13 Thread Fred Ollinger
Relying on jars, IMHO, is not bad, but it depends on your goals. The point of compiling from source is that it's a first step to actually being a developer which is why I do it. Compiling problems aren't problems for us new developers they are puzzles to solve to help people out. If there are

Re: Updating Java libraries

2013-02-13 Thread Michael Lam
On 02/13/2013 12:48 PM, Fred Ollinger wrote: Relying on jars, IMHO, is not bad, but it depends on your goals. The point of compiling from source is that it's a first step to actually being a developer which is why I do it. Compiling problems aren't problems for us new developers they are

Re: Updating Java libraries

2013-02-12 Thread Michael Lam
On 02/12/2013 12:01 AM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote: On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 11:37:35PM -0500, Michael Lam wrote: I have updated the external_deps.lst with the updated hsqldb information. If someone can give me some pointer into how to just retrieve the jar instead of the source You don't

Re: Updating Java libraries

2013-02-12 Thread Ariel Constenla-Haile
Hi Michael, On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 09:59:02PM -0500, Michael Lam wrote: On 02/12/2013 12:01 AM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote: On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 11:37:35PM -0500, Michael Lam wrote: I have updated the external_deps.lst with the updated hsqldb information. If someone can give me some

Re: Updating Java libraries

2013-02-11 Thread Michael Lam
On 02/06/2013 03:58 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: On Feb 5, 2013, at 8:26 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote: Is there any recommendation/objection on this? After hsqldb I would like to move on to lucene. In this case, it would be nice to investigate if lucence can be replaced by clucene, this will

Re: Updating Java libraries

2013-02-11 Thread Michael Lam
On 02/06/2013 12:50 PM, Kay Schenk wrote: On 02/06/2013 06:15 AM, Michael Lam wrote: On 02/06/2013 05:57 AM, Herbert Duerr wrote: I just saw that Ariel had already provided an excellent answer when I had trouble with my mail connection. Sorry about that. On 06.02.2013 11:49, Herbert Duerr

Re: Updating Java libraries

2013-02-11 Thread Herbert Duerr
Hi Michael, On 11.02.2013 17:21, Michael Lam wrote: I have successfully test hsqldb-2.2.9 against the following 4 issues and it is functioning correctly: https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=96823 https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=103528

Re: Updating Java libraries

2013-02-11 Thread Kay Schenk
On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 9:24 AM, Herbert Duerr h...@apache.org wrote: Hi Michael, On 11.02.2013 17:21, Michael Lam wrote: I have successfully test hsqldb-2.2.9 against the following 4 issues and it is functioning correctly:

Re: Updating Java libraries

2013-02-11 Thread Michael Lam
On 02/11/2013 01:16 PM, Kay Schenk wrote: On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 9:24 AM, Herbert Duerr h...@apache.org wrote: Hi Michael, On 11.02.2013 17:21, Michael Lam wrote: I have successfully test hsqldb-2.2.9 against the following 4 issues and it is functioning correctly:

Re: Updating Java libraries

2013-02-11 Thread Fred Ollinger
I'll help with testing java 6 and java 7 from Oracle. I vote for keeping up with latest and greatest, but we should also respect that many distros are probably going to ship java 6 for a while. Thus, we should probably work with both then officially deprecated java6 when it's time. Fred On

Re: Updating Java libraries

2013-02-11 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 2:06 PM, Michael Lam mnsyl4...@verizon.net wrote: It is partially to address the JDK issue but there have been improvements in HSQLDB for both performance and conformance that would be helpful which is why I lean more towards updating to the latest rather than patching

Re: Updating Java libraries

2013-02-11 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 2:16 PM, Fred Ollinger folli...@gmail.com wrote: but we should also respect that many distros are probably going to ship java 6 for a while. for example? FC

Re: Updating Java libraries

2013-02-11 Thread Fred Ollinger
Haha, I don't know. I could be wrong. I'm not trying to start a debate, but I'm just trying help to get things working on as many current distros as possible. Best Wishes, Fred On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 12:08 PM, Fernando Cassia fcas...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 2:16 PM, Fred

Re: Updating Java libraries

2013-02-11 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 3:13 PM, Fred Ollinger folli...@gmail.com wrote: Haha, I don't know. I could be wrong. OpenJDK 7 is the current version, OpenJDK 8 is coming along nicely. OpenJDK 6 is the past. Yes, there' s been some RedHat volunteers saying they' ll keep releasing OpenJDK 6 updates

Re: Updating Java libraries

2013-02-11 Thread Fred Ollinger
OK, I won't build with java6 anymore then. Fred On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 12:30 PM, Fernando Cassia fcas...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 3:13 PM, Fred Ollinger folli...@gmail.com wrote: Haha, I don't know. I could be wrong. OpenJDK 7 is the current version, OpenJDK 8 is coming

Re: Updating Java libraries

2013-02-11 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 5:19 PM, Fred Ollinger folli...@gmail.com wrote: OK, I won't build with java6 anymore then. don' t get me wrong, I don' t want to influence your decissions one way or the other. For sure there's a lot of openjdk 6 installed out there. My point was that, going forward,

Re: Updating Java libraries

2013-02-11 Thread Kay Schenk
On 02/11/2013 02:19 PM, Fred Ollinger wrote: OK, I won't build with java6 anymore then. Fred More than likely no need unless certain sites/people refuse to update to java 1.7. I really can't imagine who that would be at this point. On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 12:30 PM, Fernando Cassia

Re: Updating Java libraries

2013-02-11 Thread Michael Lam
On 02/11/2013 05:43 PM, Kay Schenk wrote: On 02/11/2013 02:19 PM, Fred Ollinger wrote: OK, I won't build with java6 anymore then. Fred More than likely no need unless certain sites/people refuse to update to java 1.7. I really can't imagine who that would be at this point. On Mon, Feb

Re: Updating Java libraries

2013-02-11 Thread Michael Lam
I am guessing my next steps would be looking into updating the build to pull the jar? Better use the mechanism provided by main/external_deps.lst Herbert I have updated the external_deps.lst with the updated hsqldb information. If someone can give me some pointer into how to just retrieve

Re: Updating Java libraries

2013-02-06 Thread Herbert Duerr
Hi Michael, On 06.02.2013 04:06, Michael Lam wrote: I would like to update some of the Java libraries used, starting with hsqldb. Is there any preference to getting the source and building the jar or just grabbing the jar from the project site? Some other Apache projects are redistributing

Re: Updating Java libraries

2013-02-06 Thread Michael Lam
On 02/06/2013 05:57 AM, Herbert Duerr wrote: I just saw that Ariel had already provided an excellent answer when I had trouble with my mail connection. Sorry about that. On 06.02.2013 11:49, Herbert Duerr wrote: Hi Michael, On 06.02.2013 04:06, Michael Lam wrote: I would like to update some

Re: Updating Java libraries

2013-02-06 Thread Kay Schenk
On 02/06/2013 06:15 AM, Michael Lam wrote: On 02/06/2013 05:57 AM, Herbert Duerr wrote: I just saw that Ariel had already provided an excellent answer when I had trouble with my mail connection. Sorry about that. On 06.02.2013 11:49, Herbert Duerr wrote: Hi Michael, On 06.02.2013 04:06,

Re: Updating Java libraries

2013-02-06 Thread Michael Lam
On 02/06/2013 12:50 PM, Kay Schenk wrote: On 02/06/2013 06:15 AM, Michael Lam wrote: On 02/06/2013 05:57 AM, Herbert Duerr wrote: I just saw that Ariel had already provided an excellent answer when I had trouble with my mail connection. Sorry about that. On 06.02.2013 11:49, Herbert Duerr

Re: Updating Java libraries

2013-02-06 Thread Dave Fisher
On Feb 5, 2013, at 8:26 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote: Is there any recommendation/objection on this? After hsqldb I would like to move on to lucene. In this case, it would be nice to investigate if lucence can be replaced by clucene, this will reduce the need of installing Java for