Re: Pivot components & the keyboard

2010-06-20 Thread Greg Brown
> I don't disagree with your comments. ... > I don't think you need every possible approach directly in pivot. OK, thanks for clarifying. I agree that not every approach should or needs to be directly supported by the platform. However, the platform shouldn't preclude other approaches, and shoul

Re: Pivot components & the keyboard

2010-06-20 Thread Sandro Martini
Hi to all, > However, some small changes allow other major approaches! I've only advocated > for making those small changes so that another approach is not too hard to > make happen. Probably my mind focus is not-so-much as library writer, but generally speaking I'm near the suggested approach.

RE: Pivot components & the keyboard

2010-06-20 Thread aappddeevv
ent: Sunday, June 20, 2010 12:56 PM To: dev@pivot.apache.org Subject: Re: Pivot components & the keyboard > Bindable only works on the root object of the serializer and does not have > the proper link to the component to initialize off of it Generally, the Bindable object will be the c

Re: Pivot components & the keyboard

2010-06-20 Thread Greg Brown
> Bindable only works on the root object of the serializer and does not have > the proper link to the component to initialize off of it Generally, the Bindable object will be the component, so it doesn't need a reference to it (beyond "this"). > pivot also uses the Bindable interface to tag an >

RE: Pivot components & the keyboard

2010-06-20 Thread aappddeevv
;s a simple app. At least I have line numbering working! -Original Message- From: Greg Brown [mailto:gkbr...@mac.com] Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2010 10:31 AM To: dev@pivot.apache.org Subject: Re: Pivot components & the keyboard Not sure if you are suggesting adding something like this to the platf

Re: Pivot components & the keyboard

2010-06-20 Thread Greg Brown
t cannot be used. It > paints a picture of a transparent approach to configuring behavior. Again, > all with pros and cons. > > > > > > -Original Message- > From: Chris Bartlett [mailto:cbartlet...@googlemail.com] > Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 10:42 AM >

Re: Pivot components & the keyboard

2010-06-19 Thread Chris Bartlett
nts a picture of a transparent approach to configuring behavior. Again, > all with pros and cons. > > > > > > -Original Message- > From: Chris Bartlett [mailto:cbartlet...@googlemail.com] > Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 10:42 AM > To: dev@pivot.apache.org > Subject: Re:

Re: Pivot components & the keyboard

2010-06-18 Thread Noel Grandin
Chris, most of those look like useful suggestions. Could you log an entry in JIRA so we don't lose track of them? Thanks, Noel Grandin On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 15:23, Chris Bartlett wrote: > Please see below for my comments having quickly reviewed all of the Pivot > components (from trunk) that

RE: Pivot components & the keyboard

2010-06-18 Thread aappddeevv
s, subclassing and "component extensions." In other toolkits, you have fewer options and they are not flexible. I'll post the code. But I'll add some more javadoc first. -Original Message- From: Chris Bartlett [mailto:cbartlet...@googlemail.com] Sent: Friday, June 18, 201

Re: Pivot components & the keyboard

2010-06-18 Thread Greg Brown
omething negative. > > Thanks for allowing me to clarify my comments. > > > -Original Message- > From: Greg Brown [mailto:gkbr...@mac.com] > Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 10:32 AM > To: dev@pivot.apache.org > Subject: Re: Pivot components & the keyboard >

RE: Pivot components & the keyboard

2010-06-18 Thread aappddeevv
com] Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 10:32 AM To: dev@pivot.apache.org Subject: Re: Pivot components & the keyboard > I think this is a classic tension between people > like us and the core library team. No offense meant, but this comes across as a bit divisive. There hasn't even been an

Re: Pivot components & the keyboard

2010-06-18 Thread Greg Brown
elf if its not in the component >> already. This approach has code for working with keyboard handling today, >> but I am finalizing the design pattern for common command >> invocation/execution patterns. GregB made a change to the serializer for >> the >> API you need to deal

Re: Pivot components & the keyboard

2010-06-18 Thread Chris Bartlett
is Bartlett [mailto:cbartlet...@googlemail.com] > Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 9:23 AM > To: dev@pivot.apache.org > Subject: Re: Pivot components & the keyboard > > Please see below for my comments having quickly reviewed all of the Pivot > components (from trunk) that I could think o

Re: Pivot components & the keyboard

2010-06-18 Thread Greg Brown
> I think this is a classic tension between people > like us and the core library team. No offense meant, but this comes across as a bit divisive. There hasn't even been any real discussion of this issue yet - why would you assume that there would be tension? I'm not saying there won't be any d

RE: Pivot components & the keyboard

2010-06-18 Thread aappddeevv
on patterns. GregB made a change to the serializer for the API you need to deal with this. -Original Message- From: Chris Bartlett [mailto:cbartlet...@googlemail.com] Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 9:23 AM To: dev@pivot.apache.org Subject: Re: Pivot components & the keyboard Please see

Re: Pivot components & the keyboard

2010-06-18 Thread Chris Bartlett
Please see below for my comments having quickly reviewed all of the Pivot components (from trunk) that I could think of. I ignored TextArea as it is still under active development Apologies in advance for the long list. Regards, Chris Can you provide some specific examples? Some (generic) keyboa

Re: Pivot components & the keyboard

2010-06-17 Thread Greg Brown
ailto:gkbr...@mac.com] > Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 4:21 PM > To: dev@pivot.apache.org > Subject: Re: Pivot components & the keyboard > >> With regard to keyboard usage, have Pivot components been written with any >> particular guidelines or OS style behaviour in mind? &

RE: Pivot components & the keyboard

2010-06-17 Thread aappddeevv
e mappings on any component. -Original Message- From: Greg Brown [mailto:gkbr...@mac.com] Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 4:21 PM To: dev@pivot.apache.org Subject: Re: Pivot components & the keyboard > With regard to keyboard usage, have Pivot components been written with any > p

Re: Pivot components & the keyboard

2010-06-17 Thread Greg Brown
> With regard to keyboard usage, have Pivot components been written with any > particular guidelines or OS style behaviour in mind? Not specifically. However, we have attempted to draw inspiration from the various major OSes and adhere to platform-specific conventions where possible. For example