Re: Lotj - languages other than java

2016-07-07 Thread Peter
hnu Gautam Sent: 07/07/2016 07:19:48 pm To: dev@river.apache.org Subject: RE: Lotj - languages other than java Hi Peter Thanks for your valuable reply.Could you elaborate more on serverHost string. I  found serverHost variable on phoenix.policy file. Currently I am just using a  simple reggie(Jrmp-

RE: Lotj - languages other than java

2016-07-07 Thread Bishnu Gautam
that I can configure more properly. I think I may have missed that. RegardsBishnu Bishnu Prasad Gautam > Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2016 21:01:53 +1000 > From: j...@zeus.net.au > Subject: Re: Lotj - languages other than java > To: dev@river.apache.org > > Hi Bishnu, > > The

RE: Lotj - languages other than java

2016-07-07 Thread Bishnu Gautam
that I can configure more properly. I think I may have missed that. RegardsBishnu Bishnu Prasad Gautam > Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2016 21:01:53 +1000 > From: j...@zeus.net.au > Subject: Re: Lotj - languages other than java > To: dev@river.apache.org > > Hi Bishnu, > > The

Re: Attic? Was: Re: Lotj - languages other than java

2016-07-07 Thread Peter
hompson Sent: 06/07/2016 11:22:49 pm To: dev@river.apache.org Subject: Re: Attic? Was: Re: Lotj - languages other than java I look at git in terms of the ease of use for branch/merge patterns and the support of pull requests for code review and historical change tracking. It is really far superior in its fl

Re: Attic? Was: Re: Lotj - languages other than java

2016-07-06 Thread Bryan Thompson
I look at git in terms of the ease of use for branch/merge patterns and the support of pull requests for code review and historical change tracking. It is really far superior in its flexibility. Even just the diff facility if a big step forward. I do agree that projects benefit significantly from

Re: Attic? Was: Re: Lotj - languages other than java

2016-07-06 Thread Peter
Samsung device.     Include original message Original message From: Patricia Shanahan Sent: 06/07/2016 08:36:37 pm To: dev@river.apache.org Subject: Re: Attic? Was: Re: Lotj - languages other than java Are we changing the minimum supported Java version for user code? If so,  we definitely nee

Re: Lotj - languages other than java

2016-07-06 Thread Peter
dns resolution . Regards, Peter. Sent from my Samsung device.     Include original message Original message From: Bishnu Gautam Sent: 06/07/2016 08:11:49 pm To: dev@river.apache.org Subject: RE: Lotj - languages other than java Thanks Peter For the introduction of new implementation. I 

Re: Attic? Was: Re: Lotj - languages other than java

2016-07-06 Thread Patricia Shanahan
#x27;s non compliant with agreed versioning, but it would avoid a lot of updates to JIRA. Regards, Peter. Sent from my Samsung device. Include original message Original message From: Patricia Shanahan Sent: 06/07/2016 06:59:14 pm To: dev@river.apache.org Subject: Re: Attic? Was: Re: Lo

Re: Attic? Was: Re: Lotj - languages other than java

2016-07-06 Thread Peter
t with agreed versioning, but it would avoid a lot of updates to JIRA. Regards, Peter. Sent from my Samsung device.     Include original message Original message From: Patricia Shanahan Sent: 06/07/2016 06:59:14 pm To: dev@river.apache.org Subject: Re: Attic? Was: Re: Lotj - language

RE: Lotj - languages other than java

2016-07-06 Thread Bishnu Gautam
certainly enable a huge potential to this technology. Please correct me if something is missing here. RegardsBishnu Bishnu Prasad Gautam > Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2016 16:25:12 +1000 > From: j...@zeus.net.au > To: dev@river.apache.org > Subject: Re: Lotj - languages other than java >

Re: Attic? Was: Re: Lotj - languages other than java

2016-07-06 Thread Patricia Shanahan
I just hope a move to git does not become yet another reason to delay a release. A few months ago we were really close - just a matter of fixing a qa build failure. On 7/5/2016 11:44 PM, Peter wrote: Thanks Brian, Hang in there, I think we can get back on track without fragmenting, I've seen

Re: Attic? Was: Re: Lotj - languages other than java

2016-07-06 Thread Simon IJskes - QCG
On 05-07-16 14:51, Bryan Thompson wrote: GitHub (at least) provides excellent tracking. It is a matter of how you define policy for PRs. We do not accept PRs unless the author is a contributor with appropriate CLAs for the project. So it works out very nicely for us. Every single commit and i

Re: Attic? Was: Re: Lotj - languages other than java

2016-07-05 Thread Peter
Thanks Brian, Hang in there, I think we can get back on track without fragmenting, I've seen the developers on this project work well together in the past. I do agree GitHub is less work for releases, I'm going to attempt to get access to Apache's git wip repository. My experience has been

Re: Lotj - languages other than java

2016-07-05 Thread Peter
j...@zeus.net.au To: dev@river.apache.org Subject: Re: Lotj - languages other than java Thanks Bishnu, Mark Brouwer originally pointed out many years ago, that while jini had https jeri endpoints, there was no support to perform unicast discover over https in LookupLocator discovery. I have implemented

RE: Lotj - languages other than java

2016-07-05 Thread Bishnu Gautam
ate: Tue, 5 Jul 2016 17:46:14 +1000 > From: j...@zeus.net.au > To: dev@river.apache.org > Subject: Re: Lotj - languages other than java > > Thanks Bishnu, > > Mark Brouwer originally pointed out many years ago, that while jini had > https jeri endpoints, there was no

Re: Lotj - languages other than java

2016-07-05 Thread Peter
millions of users around the world. Please think, discuss and try to work on it. It would be a great news for us. RegardsBishnu Bishnu Prasad Gautam Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2016 18:37:25 +1000 From: j...@zeus.net.au Subject: Re: Lotj - languages other than java To: dev@river.apache.org CC: si...@qcg.nl Sim

Re: Attic? Was: Re: Lotj - languages other than java

2016-07-05 Thread Peter
Thanks Patricia, I can follow up with infra. Regards, Peter. Sent from my Samsung device.     Include original message Original message From: Patricia Shanahan Sent: 05/07/2016 07:12:20 pm To: dev@river.apache.org Subject: Re: Attic? Was: Re: Lotj - languages other than java On 7/5

RE: Lotj - languages other than java

2016-07-05 Thread Bishnu Gautam
Hi Patricia Bishnu Prasad Gautam > Subject: Re: Lotj - languages other than java > To: dev@river.apache.org > From: p...@acm.org > Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2016 01:48:11 -0700 > > On 7/4/2016 11:38 PM, Bishnu Gautam wrote: > > Hi Patricia > > > >> > >>

Re: Lotj - languages other than java

2016-07-05 Thread Tom Hobbs
lutions for millions of users around the world. Please think, discuss and > try to work on it. It would be a great news for us. > RegardsBishnu > > > Bishnu Prasad Gautam > > >> Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2016 18:37:25 +1000 >> From: j...@zeus.net.au >> Subject:

Re: Attic? Was: Re: Lotj - languages other than java

2016-07-05 Thread Tom Hobbs
+1 for Bryan’s PR/GitHub email. I don’t see any way we couldn’t attribute any code change to some user with a CLA active at any given time. I don’t think the attic represents defeat, I’m reluctant to let it go to the attic but right now it seems that more work is being done on the ASF administ

Re: Attic? Was: Re: Lotj - languages other than java

2016-07-05 Thread Bryan Thompson
GitHub (at least) provides excellent tracking. It is a matter of how you define policy for PRs. We do not accept PRs unless the author is a contributor with appropriate CLAs for the project. So it works out very nicely for us. Every single commit and its authorship remains visible and that meta

Re: Attic? Was: Re: Lotj - languages other than java

2016-07-05 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 7/5/2016 1:26 AM, Peter wrote: Can we move to git, without moving to GitHub? Not currently. There is an experiment underway for a system that uses GitHub with an Apache-controlled mirror. I will look again at the status of that project. We can get a read-only git mirror. See http://www.a

Re: Lotj - languages other than java

2016-07-05 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 7/4/2016 11:38 PM, Bishnu Gautam wrote: Hi Patricia Do you have any ideas for how to recruit River developers? Even the committers we have do not have enough time to finish an almost complete release. Do you have scheme of recruitment with payment or complete volunteers? If it is volunte

Re: Lotj - languages other than java

2016-07-05 Thread Peter
Thanks Sim, hold that thought, you never know. The good thing is, we're talking about these things again, without heated argument. An incompatible branch is fine as long as it doesn't have the same namespace as the long term support branch, so both can coexist in the same jvm. Those that w

Re: Attic? Was: Re: Lotj - languages other than java

2016-07-05 Thread Peter
Can we move to git, without moving to GitHub? https://www.linux.com/blog/apache-hadoop-transitions-git A concern I have with moving to GitHub is DCMA take down notices and IP: https://github.com/github/dmca The Apache foundation provides us with legal support as well as governance. I always t

Re: Lotj - languages other than java

2016-07-05 Thread Peter
, 4 Jul 2016 18:37:25 +1000 From: j...@zeus.net.au Subject: Re: Lotj - languages other than java To: dev@river.apache.org CC: si...@qcg.nl Sim, I'd like to see the project return to the days where we had a number of active committers working together on the same goals. I've got a proj

RE: Lotj - languages other than java

2016-07-04 Thread Bishnu Gautam
Hi Patricia > > Do you have any ideas for how to recruit River developers? Even the > committers we have do not have enough time to finish an almost complete > release. Do you have scheme of recruitment with payment or complete volunteers? If it is volunteers, internship program would be the

Re: Lotj - languages other than java

2016-07-04 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 7/4/2016 8:33 PM, Bishnu Gautam wrote: Hi Peter It is great that you pointed out lookup locator issue in firewall and its potential solution. It would be great to see the developments in River in which they really focus to have lookup discovery beyond the firewall without requiring port forwar

RE: Lotj - languages other than java

2016-07-04 Thread Bishnu Gautam
there's still plenty of good stuff left worth saving. > > Regards, > > Peter. > > > Sent from my Samsung device. > > Include original message > Original message > From: Peter > Sent: 01/07/2016 04:35:16 pm > To: dev@river.apache.org >

Re: Attic? Was: Re: Lotj - languages other than java

2016-07-04 Thread Patricia Shanahan
See https://attic.apache.org/ for an introduction. The question I am raising is whether River is viable as an Apache project, not whether it is a valuable body of code. Your second paragraph is exactly my point. Apache brings some good stuff to its projects in the form of licensing with care

Re: Attic? Was: Re: Lotj - languages other than java

2016-07-04 Thread Bryan Thompson
I am just not that familiar with Apache policy. However, river is a real, functional, deployed in use platform. I certainly agree that there is deadlock at this point in terms of the people and process. However, I am not sure that an attic is the right place for a well grounded and fielded tech

Attic? Was: Re: Lotj - languages other than java

2016-07-04 Thread Patricia Shanahan
I think it is time to raise on the user list moving River to the attic. There is no sign of progress on a release. What interest there is in development seems to be going in different directions. Using portions of River code in other projects would still be feasible with it in the attic, but t

Re: Lotj - languages other than java

2016-07-04 Thread Simon IJskes - QCG
On 04-07-16 10:37, Peter wrote: > I'd like to see the project return to the days where we had a number of > active committers working together on the same goals I'm sorry that i did not immediately answered your email. I think there needs to be more buy-in for change, than only the two of us. Als

Re: Lotj - languages other than java

2016-07-04 Thread Peter
xist, or that they need addressing, there's still plenty of good stuff left worth saving. Regards, Peter. Sent from my Samsung device.     Include original message Original message From: Peter Sent: 01/07/2016 04:35:16 pm To: dev@river.apache.org Subject: Re: Lotj - languages o

Re: Lotj - languages other than java

2016-06-30 Thread Peter
Sent: 30/06/2016 06:22:30 pm To: dev@river.apache.org Subject: Re: Lotj - languages other than java If you solve the 'barrier' of the service discovery, do you also want to  provide universal access to the java services in the form of microservices? It is doable to take any 'more used

Re: Lotj - languages other than java

2016-06-30 Thread Simon IJskes - QCG
If you solve the 'barrier' of the service discovery, do you also want to provide universal access to the java services in the form of microservices? It is doable to take any 'more used' service discovery solution and use this as the river discovery. To introduce a level of abstraction with the