Re: +tflags URI_IP_UNSUB publish

2014-07-30 Thread Kevin A. McGrail
On 7/30/2014 4:49 PM, John Hardin wrote: On Wed, 30 Jul 2014, Kevin A. McGrail wrote: On 7/30/2014 12:15 PM, John Hardin wrote: > According to the wiki, "rules without an explicit "tflags publish" line > are never published", > https://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/SaUpdateBackend ...whic

Re: +tflags URI_IP_UNSUB publish

2014-07-30 Thread John Hardin
On Wed, 30 Jul 2014, Kevin A. McGrail wrote: On 7/30/2014 12:15 PM, John Hardin wrote: > According to the wiki, "rules without an explicit "tflags publish" line > are never published", > https://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/SaUpdateBackend ...which isn't actually how it behaves, as there

Re: +tflags URI_IP_UNSUB publish

2014-07-30 Thread Axb
On 07/30/2014 09:04 PM, Kevin A. McGrail wrote: On 7/30/2014 12:15 PM, John Hardin wrote: According to the wiki, "rules without an explicit "tflags publish" line are never published", https://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/SaUpdateBackend ...which isn't actually how it behaves, as there are quit

Re: +tflags URI_IP_UNSUB publish

2014-07-30 Thread Kevin A. McGrail
On 7/30/2014 4:11 PM, Axb wrote: On 07/30/2014 09:04 PM, Kevin A. McGrail wrote: On 7/30/2014 12:15 PM, John Hardin wrote: According to the wiki, "rules without an explicit "tflags publish" line are never published", https://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/SaUpdateBackend ...which isn't actually

Re: +tflags URI_IP_UNSUB publish

2014-07-30 Thread Kevin A. McGrail
On 7/30/2014 12:15 PM, John Hardin wrote: According to the wiki, "rules without an explicit "tflags publish" line are never published", https://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/SaUpdateBackend ...which isn't actually how it behaves, as there are quite a few rules in my sandbox that don't have "tf

Re: +tflags URI_IP_UNSUB publish

2014-07-30 Thread John Hardin
On Wed, 30 Jul 2014, Kevin A. McGrail wrote: On 7/30/2014 11:45 AM, Axb wrote: --- 20_misc_testing.cf(revision 1614687) +++ 20_misc_testing.cf(revision 1614688) @@ -1572,5 +1572,6 @@ uriURI_IP_UNSUB m;^[a-z]+://(?:\d+\.){3}\d+/.*unsubscribe;i describe URI_IP_

Re: +tflags URI_IP_UNSUB publish

2014-07-30 Thread John Hardin
On Wed, 30 Jul 2014, Axb wrote: --- 20_misc_testing.cf (revision 1614687) +++ 20_misc_testing.cf (revision 1614688) @@ -1572,5 +1572,6 @@ uriURI_IP_UNSUB m;^[a-z]+://(?:\d+\.){3}\d+/.*unsubscribe;i describe URI_IP_UNSUB IP-address unsubscribe URI +tflags URI_IP_U

Re: +tflags URI_IP_UNSUB publish

2014-07-30 Thread Axb
On 07/30/2014 05:55 PM, Kevin A. McGrail wrote: On 7/30/2014 11:45 AM, Axb wrote: --- 20_misc_testing.cf(revision 1614687) +++ 20_misc_testing.cf(revision 1614688) @@ -1572,5 +1572,6 @@ uriURI_IP_UNSUB m;^[a-z]+://(?:\d+\.){3}\d+/.*unsubscribe;i describe URI_IP_UNS

Re: +tflags URI_IP_UNSUB publish

2014-07-30 Thread Kevin A. McGrail
On 7/30/2014 11:45 AM, Axb wrote: --- 20_misc_testing.cf(revision 1614687) +++ 20_misc_testing.cf(revision 1614688) @@ -1572,5 +1572,6 @@ uriURI_IP_UNSUB m;^[a-z]+://(?:\d+\.){3}\d+/.*unsubscribe;i describe URI_IP_UNSUB IP-address unsubscribe URI +tflags

+tflags URI_IP_UNSUB publish

2014-07-30 Thread Axb
--- 20_misc_testing.cf (revision 1614687) +++ 20_misc_testing.cf (revision 1614688) @@ -1572,5 +1572,6 @@ uriURI_IP_UNSUB m;^[a-z]+://(?:\d+\.){3}\d+/.*unsubscribe;i describe URI_IP_UNSUB IP-address unsubscribe URI +tflags URI_IP_UNSUB publish http://ru

[Bug 7063] Test for text/plain claiming to be ASCII but isn't

2014-07-30 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://issues.apache.org/SpamAssassin/show_bug.cgi?id=7063 --- Comment #45 from Kevin A. McGrail --- Per bug 7068 comment 6, the eval for this rule doesn't require the name of the rule. Removing that and improving the documentation. svn commit -m 'Cleaned up documentation and removed rule nam

Re: TO_NO_BRKTS_MSFT hits on legit hotmail msgs

2014-07-30 Thread John Hardin
On Wed, 30 Jul 2014, Axb wrote: The concept of this rule just tells me that it's wrong.. meta __TO_NO_BRKTS_MSFT __TO_NO_ARROWS_R && !__TO_UNDISCLOSED && (__ANY_OUTLOOK_MUA || __MIMEOLE_MS) As I said, it's based on the assumption that MSFT codes to standards, i.e. their tools *w

Re: TO_NO_BRKTS_MSFT hits on legit hotmail msgs

2014-07-30 Thread Axb
On 07/30/2014 05:17 PM, John Hardin wrote: On Wed, 30 Jul 2014, Axb wrote: Received: from DUB004-OMC4S34.hotmail.com (dub004-omc4s34.hotmail.com [157.55.2.109]) X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3555.308 This is what something like an "undisclosed recipients" looks like. Do you hav

Re: TO_NO_BRKTS_MSFT hits on legit hotmail msgs

2014-07-30 Thread Axb
On 07/30/2014 05:05 PM, Kevin A. McGrail wrote: On 7/30/2014 10:58 AM, Axb wrote: On 07/30/2014 04:52 PM, Kevin A. McGrail wrote: On 7/30/2014 10:50 AM, Axb wrote: The concept of this rule just tells me that it's wrong.. meta __TO_NO_BRKTS_MSFT __TO_NO_ARROWS_R && !__TO_UNDISCLOSE

Re: TO_NO_BRKTS_MSFT hits on legit hotmail msgs

2014-07-30 Thread John Hardin
On Wed, 30 Jul 2014, Axb wrote: Received: from DUB004-OMC4S34.hotmail.com (dub004-omc4s34.hotmail.com [157.55.2.109]) X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3555.308 This is what something like an "undisclosed recipients" looks like. Do you have a sample of the headers, especially the T

Re: TO_NO_BRKTS_MSFT hits on legit hotmail msgs

2014-07-30 Thread Kevin A. McGrail
On 7/30/2014 10:58 AM, Axb wrote: On 07/30/2014 04:52 PM, Kevin A. McGrail wrote: On 7/30/2014 10:50 AM, Axb wrote: The concept of this rule just tells me that it's wrong.. meta __TO_NO_BRKTS_MSFT __TO_NO_ARROWS_R && !__TO_UNDISCLOSED && (__ANY_OUTLOOK_MUA || __MIMEOLE_MS) welcome

Re: TO_NO_BRKTS_MSFT hits on legit hotmail msgs

2014-07-30 Thread Axb
On 07/30/2014 04:52 PM, Kevin A. McGrail wrote: On 7/30/2014 10:50 AM, Axb wrote: The concept of this rule just tells me that it's wrong.. meta __TO_NO_BRKTS_MSFT __TO_NO_ARROWS_R && !__TO_UNDISCLOSED && (__ANY_OUTLOOK_MUA || __MIMEOLE_MS) welcome to 2014 "X-Mailer: Microsoft Wind

Re: TO_NO_BRKTS_MSFT hits on legit hotmail msgs

2014-07-30 Thread Kevin A. McGrail
On 7/30/2014 10:50 AM, Axb wrote: The concept of this rule just tells me that it's wrong.. meta __TO_NO_BRKTS_MSFT __TO_NO_ARROWS_R && !__TO_UNDISCLOSED && (__ANY_OUTLOOK_MUA || __MIMEOLE_MS) welcome to 2014 "X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail" where is the exception for that

Re: TO_NO_BRKTS_MSFT hits on legit hotmail msgs

2014-07-30 Thread Axb
The concept of this rule just tells me that it's wrong.. meta __TO_NO_BRKTS_MSFT __TO_NO_ARROWS_R && !__TO_UNDISCLOSED && (__ANY_OUTLOOK_MUA || __MIMEOLE_MS) welcome to 2014 "X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail" where is the exception for that? .-) and if you add it so what? e

Re: TO_NO_BRKTS_MSFT hits on legit hotmail msgs

2014-07-30 Thread Kevin A. McGrail
On 7/30/2014 10:03 AM, Axb wrote: Well I show zero hits and so does your masscheck. I'd like to get a sample to work on a reverse check that identifies Good messages. even more patchwork? I don't like overworked metas with tons of cycle/memory chewing dependencies. You already solved the iss

Re: TO_NO_BRKTS_MSFT hits on legit hotmail msgs

2014-07-30 Thread Axb
On 07/30/2014 03:41 PM, Kevin A. McGrail wrote: On 7/30/2014 9:19 AM, Axb wrote: On 07/30/2014 02:57 PM, Kevin A. McGrail wrote: Hmm, Spotchecking Ruleqa doesn't show this misfiring at all: http://ruleqa.spamassassin.org/20140729-r1614286-n/TO_NO_BRKTS_MSFT/detail I have also got zero hits

Re: TO_NO_BRKTS_MSFT hits on legit hotmail msgs

2014-07-30 Thread Kevin A. McGrail
On 7/30/2014 9:19 AM, Axb wrote: On 07/30/2014 02:57 PM, Kevin A. McGrail wrote: Hmm, Spotchecking Ruleqa doesn't show this misfiring at all: http://ruleqa.spamassassin.org/20140729-r1614286-n/TO_NO_BRKTS_MSFT/detail I have also got zero hits in my ham corpora. Suggest adding hit to your

Re: TO_NO_BRKTS_MSFT hits on legit hotmail msgs

2014-07-30 Thread Axb
On 07/30/2014 02:57 PM, Kevin A. McGrail wrote: Hmm, Spotchecking Ruleqa doesn't show this misfiring at all: http://ruleqa.spamassassin.org/20140729-r1614286-n/TO_NO_BRKTS_MSFT/detail I have also got zero hits in my ham corpora. Suggest adding hit to your ham corpora and we check on it tomorr

Re: TO_NO_BRKTS_MSFT hits on legit hotmail msgs

2014-07-30 Thread Kevin A. McGrail
Hmm, Spotchecking Ruleqa doesn't show this misfiring at all: http://ruleqa.spamassassin.org/20140729-r1614286-n/TO_NO_BRKTS_MSFT/detail I have also got zero hits in my ham corpora. Suggest adding hit to your ham corpora and we check on it tomorrow. Regards, KAM

TO_NO_BRKTS_MSFT hits on legit hotmail msgs

2014-07-30 Thread Axb
Received: from DUB004-OMC4S34.hotmail.com (dub004-omc4s34.hotmail.com [157.55.2.109]) X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3555.308 This is what something like an "undisclosed recipients" looks like. Imo, this rule scored with 3.5 should be purged. It's a waste of cycles

Rule updates are too old - 2014-07-30

2014-07-30 Thread darxus
SpamAssassin version 3.3.0 has not had a rule update since 2014-07-28. SpamAssassin version 3.3.1 has not had a rule update since 2014-07-28. SpamAssassin version 3.3.2 has not had a rule update since 2014-07-28. 20140729: Spam or ham is below threshold of 150,000: http://ruleqa.spamassassin.or