On 11/22/06, David H. DeWolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Martin Cooper wrote:
> On 11/21/06, David H. DeWolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> Is it possible for tiles2 to 'graduate' into a full struts project
>> (sibling of struts1 and struts2) until it gains a little more momentum?
>
>
> I act
On Nov 22, 2006, at 12:07 PM, Wendy Smoak wrote:
Personally, I don't think it's a good idea for either _project_ (for
Struts to be an umbrella project, or for Tiles 2 to be so closely
associated with Struts.) However, it seems to be the best choice
right now for the people involved.
That's m
On 11/22/06, David H. DeWolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Ok, so what should I do to drive this to a decision? If we have any
sort of consensus, I'd like try to get it done before the struts 2.0.2
release so that we can have the tiles plugin use an alpha release. That
may not be doable at this p
On Nov 22, 2006, at 11:55 AM, David H. DeWolf wrote:
Ok, so what should I do to drive this to a decision? If we have
any sort of consensus, I'd like try to get it done before the
struts 2.0.2 release so that we can have the tiles plugin use an
alpha release. That may not be doable at thi
Martin Cooper wrote:
On 11/21/06, David H. DeWolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Is it possible for tiles2 to 'graduate' into a full struts project
(sibling of struts1 and struts2) until it gains a little more momentum?
I actually think this would make a great deal of sense as an interim step
Antonio Petrelli ha scritto:
...not to mention a strange effect that I had last week under Linux
(this evening I will check it, I have Linux only at home) that made
the Selenium tests fail. I did not open the issue simply because I was
not sure about it.
Ok false alarm :-) just tested yesterd
My best vote right now would be Alpha.
I'm trying to get up to speed with all the recent changes, but I
wouldn't want to put something out there for other people to use until
I"ve actually used it myself.
-Ted.
On 11/20/06, Don Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
We really, really, really need t
On 11/20/06, Wendy Smoak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 11/20/06, David H. DeWolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> How about getting an initial tiles release out so that the 2.0.2 tiles
> plugin can rely upon it instead of a snapshot? It would probably only be
> 'alpha' quality at this point, but the
On 11/21/06, David H. DeWolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Thoughts?
The key question is whether there are at least three (3) active
committers who are using Tiles in their own projects and could vote +1
for GA release, should the build quality warrant.
When making the tally, we should keep in mi
Greg Reddin ha scritto:
On Nov 21, 2006, at 9:15 AM, David H. DeWolf wrote:
What I'm more concerned about is the community/oversight.
How will Tiles 2 be accepted when compared with Sitemesh, etc? I
don't know. The JSF community has Facelets and Clay, so Tiles support
is more of a legacy
On 11/21/06, Ted Husted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 11/21/06, Alexandru Popescu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > The people working on Tiles2 are gearing up for some sort of release,
> > maybe even this weekend. But, since we distribute Tiles as a plugin,
> > so we could still mark Core GA and le
Struts 2.0.2 TODO
Here's a quick list of documentation elements that I'm working on today.
Snippets
* Textfield and button snippets using new key syntax
* action-class-ref
* action tag with flush
* checkboxlist with map
* Direct results
Pages
* Spring, Plexus, Pell-Multipart, Struts1 plugins
*
Well said, exactly what I was trying to communicate.
I was just hoping that we weren't "stuck in the sandbox" since that
seems like it will prevent an alpha release.
David
Greg Reddin wrote:
On Nov 21, 2006, at 9:15 AM, David H. DeWolf wrote:
What I'm more concerned about is the communit
On Nov 21, 2006, at 9:15 AM, David H. DeWolf wrote:
What I'm more concerned about is the community/oversight.
I think the scope of the Tiles 2 community remains to be seen. There
are several other templating solutions out there. How will Tiles 2
be accepted when compared with Sitemesh,
On 11/21/06, Alexandru Popescu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The people working on Tiles2 are gearing up for some sort of release,
> maybe even this weekend. But, since we distribute Tiles as a plugin,
> so we could still mark Core GA and leave the Tiles plugin at beta.
> Right now, all the plugin
Wendy Smoak wrote:
On 11/20/06, David H. DeWolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
How about getting an initial tiles release out so that the 2.0.2 tiles
plugin can rely upon it instead of a snapshot? It would probably only be
'alpha' quality at this point, but the same snapshot logic that you
describ
--- Martin Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I think you're misunderstanding. The purpose of
> Jakarta Web Components is to
> form a grouping of small web-related projects, along
> the same lines as
> Jakarta Commons but focussed on web related stuff.
> It is specifically not a
> project in
How about getting an initial tiles release out so that the 2.0.2 tiles
plugin can rely upon it instead of a snapshot? It would probably only be
'alpha' quality at this point, but the same snapshot logic that you
described below applies to it.
I'll do the release (prior to the weekend), if some
On 11/21/06, Antonio Petrelli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Greg Reddin ha scritto:
>
> On Nov 21, 2006, at 9:15 AM, David H. DeWolf wrote:
>
>> What I'm more concerned about is the community/oversight.
>
> How will Tiles 2 be accepted when compared with Sitemesh, etc? I
> don't know. The JSF com
On 11/20/06, Antonio Petrelli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Martin Cooper ha scritto:
> If so, the next question would be whether
> or not we have enough people and enough energy to jump-start it.
A good (non Apache yet but with Apache License) candidate for Java Web
Components could be Java Web P
Antonio Petrelli wrote:
For what I can say, surely Tiles 2 cannot be released as GA (neither as
alpha I suppose) since there is a blocking issue (just reopened :-) )
and some major issues, not to mention a strange effect that I had last
week under Linux (this evening I will check it, I have
We really, really, really need to get a release out there, even if was
determined to be beta. The snapshot system is unpredictable and
confusing for potential users, and really, users shouldn't be using them
anyways as they aren't "official" struts releases.
Any showstoppers to a likely beta
On Nov 21, 2006, at 9:30 AM, David H. DeWolf wrote:
procedural ones which we MUST take care of but are trivial
(Copyright notices, and Id Keywords,
I do think this one's critical to get out before alpha.
retroweaver distributions),
Probably could wait til after alpha.
1) Do we need to
David H. DeWolf ha scritto:
1) Do we need to support EL for an alpha release?
I think this an issue that needs to resolved, since it will be the
replacement of "beanName" and similar attributes in Tiles configuration
files. There was a feature in Tiles 1.1 and it has been erased when
those a
That's fine...anything is better than a snapshot :)
Don
Ted Husted wrote:
My best vote right now would be Alpha.
I'm trying to get up to speed with all the recent changes, but I
wouldn't want to put something out there for other people to use until
I"ve actually used it myself.
-Ted.
On 11/
Don, I agree with you that a release should be scheduled sometime very
soon. However, at this moment due to the latest changes I would
suggest the following process:
1/ tag all dependencies (XWork2, Tiles2, Guice, CodeBehind etc.)
2/ make a release of the external dependencies (XWork2, Tiles2, Gu
Rainer, I vote to roll XWork 2.0-beta-2 Thursday. Let me know if there
are any showstoppers and I'll try to squeeze in working on them between
playing my Nintendo Wii games :)
Don
Rainer Hermanns wrote:
Don and others,
regarding the XWork 2.0 release, I only have time to do this either
this
Alexandru Popescu wrote:
I am not gonna argue against your argument but just say: the user will
be confused when he will not be able to run the plugins because a
small change in one of them has broken it. The release should be able
to guarantee a set of plugins that work out of the box. The user
Ted Husted wrote:
On 11/21/06, David H. DeWolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Thoughts?
The key question is whether there are at least three (3) active
committers who are using Tiles in their own projects and could vote +1
for GA release, should the build quality warrant.
When making the tally,
Ted Husted ha scritto:
On 11/21/06, David H. DeWolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Thoughts?
The key question is whether there are at least three (3) active
committers who are using Tiles in their own projects and could vote +1
for GA release, should the build quality warrant.
For what I can say
On 11/21/06, Ted Husted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 11/21/06, Alexandru Popescu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Don, I agree with you that a release should be scheduled sometime very
> soon. However, at this moment due to the latest changes I would
> suggest the following process:
>
> 1/ tag all d
Hi Rainer,
>Toby, are you still working on the docs?
I think there's some changes needed to be done on the current xwork2 docs,
there's the new DI introduced lately and I think the docs doesn't take that
into account. I think (I am not sure) that the creation of ActionProxy etc.
might be diff
On 11/21/06, Alexandru Popescu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Don, I agree with you that a release should be scheduled sometime very
soon. However, at this moment due to the latest changes I would
suggest the following process:
1/ tag all dependencies (XWork2, Tiles2, Guice, CodeBehind etc.)
I'd a
On 11/21/06, David H. DeWolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Wendy Smoak wrote:
> On 11/20/06, David H. DeWolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> How about getting an initial tiles release out so that the 2.0.2 tiles
>> plugin can rely upon it instead of a snapshot? It would probably only
be
>> 'alpha'
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